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Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
Pennlive.com ^ | 12-11-11 | Sarah Ganim

Posted on 12/11/2011 6:18:26 AM PST by FlJoePa

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To: Rannug

I think some people just want to prove they are more socially conservative than everyone else. It doesnt take much to rally reactionaries into a frenzy.


21 posted on 12/11/2011 7:32:59 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: italianquaker

What law did he break? What would you be indicted for? You really haven’t answered the question.


22 posted on 12/11/2011 7:35:03 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Thats for his lawyers and spinners to answer. I do know that he was in charge of a program where it is reported that dozens of kids were raped and it is reported he didnt report it to the Police, but hey he is “joepa”


23 posted on 12/11/2011 7:46:18 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Perdogg

[ what law did joepa break? ]

He didnt break a law.. he was merely a coward..
morally challenged and afraid of the fallout..

Like people that see a crime and do little or nothing..
He did do the bare minimum...


24 posted on 12/11/2011 7:53:39 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: italianquaker
No, you said he should be indicted. It is not spin, you said it. What should he be charged with?

The Grand Jury report addressed this. According to Pennsylvania State Law, “the person in charge of the school or institution,” upon being informed of suspected child abuse, “has the responsibility and legal obligation to report the abuse or cause such a report of the abuse to be made by telephone and in writing within 48 hours to the Department of Public Welfare of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.”

However, Paterno is not “the person in charge of the school or institution” and hence is not legally responsible for reporting the incident to the police. Otherwise, it would have been considered hersay, which is not admissible in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

25 posted on 12/11/2011 7:54:19 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: hosepipe

not according to the grand jury report.


26 posted on 12/11/2011 7:54:57 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Most people if they werent “joepa” would of been indicted but hey he was an institution but now a disgrace.

I will say it again “joepa” should of been indicted.


27 posted on 12/11/2011 7:59:46 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: italianquaker

okay I get it now. He should be indicted for a mythical crime. Wow, so much for the Constitution.


28 posted on 12/11/2011 8:04:41 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I guess you wont see it but hey lets enjoy our Sunday
Goodbye


29 posted on 12/11/2011 8:07:31 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: italianquaker

Have a good Sunday my FRiend.


30 posted on 12/11/2011 8:19:29 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: italianquaker
"Thats for his lawyers and spinners to answer. I do know that he was in charge of a program where it is reported that dozens of kids were raped and it is reported he didnt report it to the Police, but hey he is "joepa""

Well you did get one thing right - Joe was the coach of a football program. Other than that, there isn't one single word of truth in that post. Not ONE! Nice job!

31 posted on 12/11/2011 8:23:48 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: tjd1454

“In any versions of the story, what Sandusky did was unacceptable under any standards of common decency, and constituted the sexual abuse of a minor.”

There were no standards of common decency at Ped State...Spanier saw to that, and JoePa allowed. Tar and Feather all of ‘em! Then throw ‘em together in that 6 x 9 cell.


32 posted on 12/11/2011 8:27:07 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: FlJoePa

ok


33 posted on 12/11/2011 8:39:09 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: FlJoePa

ok


34 posted on 12/11/2011 8:39:13 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: FlJoePa

ok


35 posted on 12/11/2011 8:39:27 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: FlJoePa

ok


36 posted on 12/11/2011 8:39:34 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: FlJoePa

sorry about the multiple posts


37 posted on 12/11/2011 8:43:32 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: FlJoePa

I’ve read every article I can get my hands on.
I’ve read the 23 page Grand Jury presentment.

I’ve read JoePa’s version of the events.

JoePa, by his own words, has revealed he was unwilling to simply pick up the phone and call the police.

As for this article?
MY BS detector is going haywire.
So the guy’s story is that McQueary described sex sounds. But he asks him 3 times if he saw anything sexual?
McQueary sees that a boy is in the shower alone with an adult male, who grabs the boy by the waist and pulls him back in.
And based on this, the guy advises McQueary not to call the police.

Unfreakingbelievable.


38 posted on 12/11/2011 8:45:19 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

It does not matter if he called police since Joepa was not a witness to the event. This would have been “hearsay”. The ultimate responsibility would have McQueary to go to the police - not Paterno.


39 posted on 12/11/2011 8:51:10 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

this hearsay argument has been discussed endlessly on these Penn State threads.
The rules of hearsay are rules of evidence for the courts - not for reporting child abuse in the first place.

The police, the lawyers, and the judges are the ones that make determinations about rules of evidence.

Ordinary citizens who learn of child rape are morally obligated to seek help for that child.

An eyewitness to child rape described what he SAW to JoePa - on JoePa’s own turf.

It isn’t that JoePa could possibly have felt powerless.
We’ve already learned what he can do when he doesn’t like an administrator...when he wanted that woman fired, he threatened Spanier he would stop fundraising if she wasn’t dismissed.

If only he had gotten that upset and angry over child rape.


40 posted on 12/11/2011 8:56:34 AM PST by Scotswife
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