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Gingrich opens up big leads in South Carolina and Florida [NBC/Marist poll - TEA PARTY POWER]
MSNBC ^ | Dec 11, 2012 | By NBC's Mark Murray

Posted on 12/11/2011 12:02:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson

"In a new NBC/Marist poll, Newt Gingrich has surged into the lead in Iowa, but Mitt Romney's big lead in New Hampshire remains. NBC's Mike Viqueira and David Gregory report."

Newt Gingrich’s surge in the polls isn’t limited to just the early presidential-nominating contest of Iowa. According to new NBC News-Marist polls, the former House speaker has now opened up commanding leads in South Carolina and Florida -- two states that historically have played important roles in deciding the eventual Republican nominee.

Fueled by the support from conservatives and the Tea Party, Gingrich is ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by nearly 20 points in South Carolina. The winner of that state's primary has gone on to capture each GOP nomination since 1980.

And he leads Romney by double digits in Florida, whose primary ultimately ended up deciding the party’s pick in 2008.

“You can see why the Romney people are getting a little itchy,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of Marist College’s Institute for Public Opinion, referring to the Romney campaign’s recent attacks on Gingrich. Gingrich ahead “any way you slice it”

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Tea Party power

According to the two polls, Gingrich performs especially well among the most conservative primary voters.

Among Tea Party supporters -- who make up about half of all likely primary voters in South Carolina and Florida -- the former House speaker leads Romney by more than 30 percentage points in both states (51-20 percent in South Carolina and 57-22 percent in Florida).

Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among “conservative” and “very conservative” voters.

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To: caww

Freddie Mac executives clearly hired him to speak positively about the company and its business model and to identify political friends on Capitol Hill who would help the firm.

Gingrich did his part by banking the fees before the company collapsed and hasn’t returned it as he urged Obama to give back tainted FM contributions in the 2008 campaign. No surprise since his only record is one of growing government.

TV Newt is fun and entertaining which helps the medicine go down but doesn’t change the heart of a liar and serial betrayer.


101 posted on 12/11/2011 2:15:04 PM PST by erlayman
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To: C. Edmund Wright
What is the address of the parallel universe you live on? And how long has that universe had internet?

Here's a hint: You can mine for minerals in my universe.

;^)

102 posted on 12/11/2011 2:15:25 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Last night Santorum admitted that it was Newt who taught him what it means to be conservative.


103 posted on 12/11/2011 2:15:38 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: re_nortex

OK.


104 posted on 12/11/2011 2:16:13 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry Jim, I’m not that desperate. I keep thinking of that NY 23 race, the climate change advocate and the sky high ego “I am the nominee”. I will vote for him if he is the one but not too excited about it.


105 posted on 12/11/2011 2:17:15 PM PST by maxter
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To: TBBT
GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY: 22:08:29:00 And I'm president of the United States, I will exercise sobriety, care, stability.

That is NOT timidity. And I noticed when Mitt made the above statement, Newt exhibited a noticeable tic in his left eye.

106 posted on 12/11/2011 2:18:00 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: Notwithstanding

And it was Santorum who agreed with Romney that truth re Middle East tensions must be tempered with prudence, i.e., Newt was out of line on his Pali pronouncement. Sometimes the student matures and becomes the teacher.


107 posted on 12/11/2011 2:21:31 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: PapaNew

Oh I agree with you - just pointing out that “not all mandates are created equal.” And as such, it is dishonest to make some of the comparisons that are being made.

But on the larger point, I am with you.


108 posted on 12/11/2011 2:22:43 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Not surprisingly, that’s exactly the problem with our current Republican majority in congress. They’re acting as if they are still the minority. No offense whatsoever. We need someone with Newt’s spunk to spur them into action.

Nominate and elect pro-life, Reaganite Newt Gingrich and give him veto proof congressional majorities and a clear mandate to bust the socialist Democrats and take our freedom back from the godless liberals!!


109 posted on 12/11/2011 2:23:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Your tag line is very funny


110 posted on 12/11/2011 2:26:15 PM PST by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Jim Robinson; sheikdetailfeather; All
"I think the tea party is beginning to warm up to him. Newt is a pro-life, Reagan Coalition Christian conservative and he’s knowledgeable, experienced, fully vetted (sought redemption and is largely forgiven), is battle tested and rip-roaring ready to hit the ground running. No on the job training necessary. He’s a deficit cutting, tax cutting, budget balancing, welfare reforming, socialist healthcare program (HillaryCare) blocking, small government, big defense dynamo. He’s already taking the battle to the enemy. In short, we’re desperate and he’s exactly what we’re looking for." -Jim Robinson

Bttt

"Donald Trump is providing a blueprint here: The way to beat Barack Obama in 2012 is to just go at him." -Rush Limbaugh - Thursday, April 7, 2011

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“I’ll tell you this. Whoever in this field takes it to Obama the straightest and the hardest and the most direct, is who’s gonna win. They’re gonna have to take it to Obama. This isn’t a ‘pussy-foot around’ type of election. This is not, ‘Oh, we’ve got to worry about what they’re gonna say about us, we’ve got to worry about PR, about charges of racism.’ Somebody’s got to be willing to take it to Obama. It’s going to be about him and four more years of this stuff and we’ll see if there’s anybody in this field willing to do that.” ~ Rush Limbaugh - March 25th, 2011

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I have a feeling that pretty soon, Newt will say what the establishment will think is ANOTHER "stupid" thing, saying something like this:

"With his Osawatomie Speech on 12/06/2011, Obama has deliberately come out of the closet as a Communist, showing that communism is his objetive. That speech was a Marxist attack on America, pure and simple."

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"...Folks, I don't think any longer it is improper to use the word "communist" to describe Obama, communism to describe his objectives, nor is it wrong to use the word "communist" or "communism" to associate with the trade labor movement, be it the AFL-CIO or the mine workers or the SEIU. I mean they've made it clear, Obama came out of the closet. We called him out. We set the arena. Obama is now playing in our arena, not the Republican Party's arena..." ~ Rush Limbaugh, December 08, 2011

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President Obama's Osawatomie Speech was a Marxist Attack on America ~ Rush Limbaugh, December 07, 2011

111 posted on 12/11/2011 2:27:29 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
JimRob sent me this video of Gingrich doing what he does best: cut through the commentator's BS, called him on his not-so-hidden agenda, and then declared that ObamaCare must be repealed.

That's a good first step. The video did my heart good...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtkSFGkjaXU&feature=related

112 posted on 12/11/2011 2:28:37 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: mmanager
IBTZ......give me a break. You are not long here.

into the eggnog a little early???

113 posted on 12/11/2011 2:30:14 PM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Jim Robinson

For all of Newt’s shortcomings (remember, the Clintonistas said they were voting for a president, not the Pope), I like that he intends to appoint John Bolton as Sec of State if elected.


114 posted on 12/11/2011 2:30:25 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: La Enchiladita
Santorum performs consistently well in the debates, and he was the most consistent conservative on that stage last night. Yet the Tea Party and evangelicals prefer to reinvent FreddiMac-supporting, global warming advocate, NY Times best-selling author (as he reminded everyone last night), Al Sharpton pal Newt Leroy MacPherson Gingrich into their preferred candidate, and he has polled as a sure loser to Obama.

You are 100% correct. It boggles my mind how anyone with any understanding of the 2008 election can be supporting a repeat in 2012. If GOP voters nominate McNewt as their candidate, then they deserve what they get - four more years of Obama.

On style alone, the American voter will no longer connect with any candidate born before 1950. And to think that Newt Gingrich is older than George W. Bush. So here it is twelve years later, and we're going to nominate someone older than Bush? Like I said, McCain all over again.

115 posted on 12/11/2011 2:35:18 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat
I would surmise that those 82% know nothing about GingrichCare.

Yep, just us ol' dumb ass hicks with our guns and Bibles and we don't know squat about the grinch that stole Christmas.

We do know that your ILLEGAL ALIEN loving governor, that is as senile as a 100 year old moonshiner, can't carry Newt's 21 books, let alone speak two coherent sentences without letting his dementia show through.

We know who Newt is, and you can surmise anything you choose to, but us 82% stupid TEA party folks sho' do thank you massa hoodat.

You are really insulting to a whole bunch of folks.

116 posted on 12/11/2011 2:39:10 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: PapaNew

First there is no single entity called The Tea Party. Tea Partiers are simply a group of people with common interests joining together to combat Marxism , crony politics and political elitists. Gingrich falls into at least two of those categories. If Tea Partiers are lining up for Gingrich I need to unhitch myself pronto from the Tea Party label.

I do not believe these polls because I don’t believe real Tea Partiers are for one nano second taken in by the elitist RINO Gingrich. This is a push poll meant to make Gingrich inevitable. Gingrich is not inevitable and there is a long way to go to election day.


117 posted on 12/11/2011 2:40:10 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: PapaNew

First there is no single entity called The Tea Party. Tea Partiers are simply a group of people with common interests joining together to combat Marxism , crony politics and political elitists. Gingrich falls into at least two of those categories. If Tea Partiers are lining up for Gingrich I need to unhitch myself pronto from the Tea Party label.

I do not believe these polls because I don’t believe real Tea Partiers are for one nano second taken in by the elitist RINO Gingrich. This is a push poll meant to make Gingrich inevitable. Gingrich is not inevitable and there is a long way to go to election day.


118 posted on 12/11/2011 2:40:24 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: La Enchiladita

“Not timidity, but prudence! Calling the Palis an ‘invented’ people in public is no more helpful to the situation than Barack Hussein stating publicly that Israel should return to the pre-1967 borders. Both Gingrich and Obama fail as statesmen in this regard. They are too concerned with throwing red-meat rhetoric to their respective bases, but it is irresponsible and infringes on Israel’s right of leadership.”

I disagree with you on this.

PRUDENCE is exactly the same word used by Romney against Gingrich last night ... if I remember correctly. There was a sense of joy upon hearing those words of truth last night.....VERY much like when Reagan called the Soviets that “evil empire” ... and when calling for the wall to be torn down.

This has not infringed on Israel.


119 posted on 12/11/2011 2:40:49 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: PapaNew

That’s pretty close to Newt’s view too if you care to read up on him. He says our health insurance costs whether government or employer provided will never be brought under control as long as the individual is not responsible in large part for his own care and well being. As long as we rely on insurance or government to pay the large majority of our bills and could care less about the actual costs, our premiums and healthcare costs are going to continue to soar.

He’s in favor of making health insurance more portable and incentivizing them through tax deductions for individuals and by giving people more choices so individuals can afford to purchase their own plans and not lose them as they move from job to job. Also to turn government involvement back over to the states for poor people so it can be better controlled locally. Also wants tort reform to reduce the costs of junk lawsuits.


120 posted on 12/11/2011 2:42:22 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; stillafreemind

You wrote: “.. But I never said anything - nor could I do anything - to keep folks from having their say...”

bttt

Kevin DuJan over at HillBuzz had his say yesterday before the debate.

I say...that he was “right on”:

Republican Debate Live Blog Transcript: Des Moines Iowa ABC Yahoo Debate Saturday December 10th, 2011
http://hillbuzz.org/republican-debate-live-blog-transcript-des-moines-iowa-abc-yahoo-debate-saturday-december-10th-2011-2011
Posted on December 10, 2011 by Kevin DuJan

NOTE: This is a live blog transcript of the Republican Debate taking place in Des Moines, Iowa on Saturday December 10th, 2011 and covered by ABC News and Yahoo. In my opinion, that’s as professional a level of coverage as allowing Al’s Plumbing and Air Conditioning Supply and Burger King to host a debate (with no offense intended towards either Al or “The King”). They’re bringing Diane Sawyer out of the malfunctioning cryo-chamber she sleeps in and they’re borrowing a booster seat to prop little Georgie Snuffleupaguss high enough over the table to participate in questioning as well, like a big boy and everything. I fully expect this to be a severely amateur hour performance by the “journalists” playing “moderators”, with ample “Gotcha!” moments where these people beclown themselves in their attempts to harm the Republicans running for president against Barack Obama. Since Newt Gingrich is the latest frontrunner to emerge, the goal tonight for the “moderators” will be to tear him down so that Willard “Mittens” Romneycare becomes the ultimate (and, according to them, “inevitable”) nominee. Let’s see how much these fools get away with tonight, and how aggressively Gingrich serves whatever they’re dishing right back at them.

The debate starts at 9pm EST and 8pm CST. ...

In the few minutes I have before the debate starts, I think it’s a good time to run through my thoughts on each of the candidates and what I expect from them tonight:

Newt Gingrich: I still marvel at the fact that the man I actually hated once upon a time in the 90s is now someone I can actually see becoming the 45th President of the United States.

The reality is that voters do not unseat an incumbent president unless a challenger emerges who forms a clear remedy for the current president’s failings: and Gingrich is clearly a remedy to Barack Obama (unlike Willard “Mittens” Romneycare, who is essentially Obama-lite, or Obama-white, as the case may be). Gingrich is fast on his feet and intelligent where Obama fumbles and bumbles with TelePrompTers.

Gingrich speaks in cold hard facts while Obama waxes in nebulous platitudes. Gingrich clobbers his opponents in debates while Obama relies on the memories of his soaring orations from 2008.

There are a lot of very foolish people out there who keep harping that Gingrich’s three marriages will keep voters from embracing him, but that’s just nonsense. I surely hope that if the Obama campaign attacks Gingrich on a marital front in 2012 that Republicans are smart enough to call Barack Obama’s own marriage into question, and start openly talking about the fact that Obama is a closeted gay man in a sham marriage that includes frequent cheating on his wife with male staffers. I don’t think Democrats are going to want to go there, so the “Gingrich has been married three times” bit really gets trumped by “Barack Obama used to frequent bathhouses in Chicago and still sleeps with men in the White House” reality.

The GOP is indeed the Party of Stupid and is meek beyond comprehension most of the time, but something tells me that Newt Gingrich will see to it that all of Obama’s own dirty, bathhouse-scented laundry sees the light of day if the White House decides to try to make 2012 a referendum against heterosexuals marrying and divorcing multiple times.

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Willard “Mittens” Romneycare: Romneycare is the least electable Republican in this race because he does not provide any contrast at all with Barack Obama in a general election. If Republicans run Romneycare, they take Obamacare off the table for criticism ­ which will be a disaster down ticket since this election will really be about jobs, the economy, and repealing Obamacare before it does any more damage to jobs and the economy.

If Romneycare is the nominee, the conservatives will lose the ability to criticize Obamacare. They’ll also lose the ability to criticize any of the myriad other things that Romneycare has supported over the years, before deciding to no longer support so long as the polls tell him that’s the best position for him to have today.

Barack Obama is vague, nebulous, and manufactured in all that he does; the same can be said for Romneycare. Voters do not replace one president with a man who is so similar to him; voters want a remedy for the current president and will only side with a challenger against an incumbent if they feel the new guy makes up for the key failings of the current Oval Office occupant.

Romneycare just doesn’t cut it. Hopefully, enough Republican voters will see that so this can be the last time we have to deal with Willard “Mittens” “But, It’s My Turn!” Romneycare in a presidential election.

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Michele Bachmann: I have lost all respect for Michele Bachmann. That’s one of the most disappointing casualties for me of this primary season. I don’t like the way she conducts herself, and don’t like how clearly she has been cozying up to Romneycare in some deluded effort to be his VP pick (mark my words, if Romneycare WERE to become the nominee, his VP pick would be Tim “Droopy Dog” Pawlenty, as those two have a weird bromance going on that Bachmann can never compete with). I used to have a lot of respect for Bachmann, but she’s been behaving foolishly lately and doesn’t seem to stand for anything anymore besides being as negative as possible whenever a microphone is in front of her. I wish she would suspend her campaign and focus on something productive at this point.

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Rick Perry: The “Strong” ad was a breaking point for me with Perry, but not in the way you might first think. I don’t care if Perry doesn’t want gays serving in the military ­ there have been gays in the military since the military was founded, and the matter is now settled so it’s truly beyond foolish for a Republican candidate to keep bringing it up. It’s also incredibly foolish for Perry to make an anti-gay TV ad while dressed up like one of the guys from Brokeback Mountain. That jacket he wore in the “Strong” ad is a dead-ringer for the one Heath Ledger wore as gay cowboy Ennis in Brokeback.

I now conclude that Rick Perry is an irredeemable doofus for setting himself up for the merciless parodies the Gaystapo is churning out against him on YouTube and Facebook.

A Republican candidate for president just cannot be this oblivious, ill-informed, and downright STUPID. A serious Republican presidential candidate should not need to be told that dressing up as an iconic character from a gay movie is not the best way to wardrobe himself in an anti-gay ad his campaign filmed out of sheer desperation to gin up a little hatred and get himself a new round of attention before the Iowa Caucuses.

You know what else is a pretty popular gay movie? To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything Julie Newmar. Which of those characters will Perry be dressing up as for his next Iowa ad? I bet if he picks the Patrick Swayze one, maybe he’ll score some points from still-mourning fans the way Jennifer Grey did when she was on Dancing with the Stars last year.

Perry supporters keep saying that “this is the last dumb thing he’ll do” or “just give him a chance and he’ll prove he’s not a complete doofus”. Well, he’s had more chances than most people, and he keeps proving how truly stupid he is on all sorts of levels. This guy is Texas toast with scrambled eggs for brains.

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Ron Paul: I am horrified by Ron Paul’s assertion that the United States government was gleeful after 9/11 or that our government knew the attacks were going to happen and let them happen anyway. A good friend of mine died when the Towers collapsed, so I take these flights of fantasy from someone like Paul deadly serious. I’m sure my friend Kathleen, a Paul supporter, will have some thoughts on his remarks but I have to note going into this debate that I am furious with this man. For two presidential elections now, Paul has played the role of Mr. Mxyzptlk, saying outrageous things up on the stage and encouraging people who like to run around in V for Vendetta masks to champion him. After these 9/11 remarks, I’ve had enough of this garbage and no longer feel like indulging Fifth-Dimensional craziness in serious debate proceedings. I really hope Paul has to answer a question about his 9/11 remarks; I am sure my friend Jane will be looking down from Heaven with great interest to hear what he has to say.

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Rick Santorum: It’s time for him to get off the stage so that the field can be paired down to five or less contenders. Anyone polling with less than 10% needs to join Jon Huntsman off in the ether somewhere. This is the homestretch, and the time to perpetually indulge the vanity campaigns is over.

What are you thinking about as we wait for the debate to start?

What do you think each of the candidates above needs to do tonight?

Transcript starts after the jump below:

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- END OF DEBATE ­

Talking Heads on Who Won?

Newt Gingrich, because he didn’t make any mistakes. In the last question he gave credit to others on the stage, but Romneycare kept coming across as someone without a pulse who is full of himself (note: Romney was the only one who did not say anything nice about his opponents at the end).

Talking heads say there is something very real, very warts-and-all about Gingrich. Gingrich did not harm to himself, but in fact enhanced his position.

This is fun: at the end, ABC fact-checked the whole “$10,000 debate” book thing. Perry was right, that important part WAS changed in Romneycare’s book…but the bigger thing is that everyone is scolding Romneycare for making a $10,000 bet. People in Iowa are mystified by this…they would never bet $10,000 on anything when the median income in the state is $50,000. This was a disastrous move for Romneycare.

NOTE: Check back tomorrow morning for my write-up on the Top 5 Things People Need to Know About this Debate.


121 posted on 12/11/2011 2:44:37 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt, the man that “expert” political analyists said would never get out of the single digits in the polls; the man running his campaign on a shoe string; the man that evangelicals and Tea Party folks would never endorse...That NEWT?
Gingrich has made them all look like fools. What they (the Roves, Coulters, Noonans)didn’t consider is Newt’s brilliance and America is starved for a president that knows history, the constitution, tells the truth on sticky issues despite the potential damage, educates not only the voters but the pundits and has not bashed the other gop candidates. WOOT WOOT!!! I LOVE NEWT! it is great news. I find myself looking forward to the gop debates now..in the past they were rather boring and the same ole, same ole...Newt is the spark!


122 posted on 12/11/2011 2:51:03 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Hoodat

I recall that McCain refused to go after Obama and his obvious flaws/gaffs. Gingrich has shown that he is unafraid to go after Obama on any front. So your assertion that Gingrich=McCain is seriously flawed.


123 posted on 12/11/2011 2:52:05 PM PST by SFRigger (There is no perfect candidate.)
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To: dools0007world

My Tea Party signs have a place of honor in my garage until it’s time to rally and use them again. I recognize the mistakes Gingrich has made in the past. I know his good points and his bad points and I LIKE the way he is campaigning. I like the policies he has put forth.

I do NOT see him as a RINO (grossly overused word to describe the candidate a person is not pulling for).


124 posted on 12/11/2011 2:54:20 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Hoodat
On style alone, the American voter will no longer connect with any candidate born before 1950. And to think that Newt Gingrich is older than George W. Bush. So here it is twelve years later,and we're going to nominate someone older than Bush?

I'm 41. I have strong opinions and am not shy about expressing them. But I also know that I have not experienced or learned as much as my elders. So I make a point to watch, listen, and learn. I was raised by my grandparents, who were from the Depression era. I learned much from them but one of the most valuable lessons I learned is that age brings wisdom through experience.

Obama connected with the voters. He won their hearts with verbal cadence. The problem is that he had no experience and therefore no wisdom to share. Newt's age is not a negative, it's a positive. He's faced down these communist bastards before. He knows their strategy. He's aptly suited to defeat them AGAIN.

125 posted on 12/11/2011 2:57:33 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: USS Alaska
LMAO!!! I see you're one of the 82%. And you don't know jack about my governor either.

btw, do you know which 300 pages of Obamacare Gingrich plans on keeping?

126 posted on 12/11/2011 2:58:35 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim,

Prayers for Newt, and all the Republican candidates to be on their best behavior and promote conservative values in this primary period.

127 posted on 12/11/2011 3:01:50 PM PST by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: Jim Robinson

Hey Jim. I will not and have never hinted at even thinking about..voting for Mitt.

I was a huge Palin and Cain fan.

Now, if allowed, I’m shopping. I’ve met Newt..I dont’ say he’s a bad human being..he’s kinda fun to talk to. But I know what I want in a candidate. Newt hasn’t convinced me yet..but I’m only one vote.


128 posted on 12/11/2011 3:02:06 PM PST by stillafreemind
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,
I haven’t posted much in the 12 yrs I’ve been here, but you are right on this one. Yes...no votes have been cast yet, but everyone can see the quarter from which the wind blows.There is clearly no one else running who is of the caliber of Newt....sure, he has his warts, but they are well known and he’s on notice. The Kenyan must be removed and i think this is the way to do it.


129 posted on 12/11/2011 3:10:40 PM PST by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Jim Robinson

bump!!


130 posted on 12/11/2011 3:10:59 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TitansAFC
Karl Rove deeply saddened............

stick it where the sun don't shine, Rino Rove

131 posted on 12/11/2011 3:11:50 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson

True.. I was waiting for Captain Obvious in Silk costume BUT NooT showed up instead..

So be it........


132 posted on 12/11/2011 3:12:36 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: panaxanax
Newt’s a big government RINO. Oh, I’ll probably be forced to vote for him (as I bite my tongue in half) but I’ll never call him a ‘Conservative’. Better than Myth for sure and a gazillion times better than the Muslim 0bama. Guess we’ll have to settle for Newt.

You've summed it up for me.

I seem to recall our not liking Clinton for his personal shenanigans, as integrity was so important at home as well as in office. Guess that goes over the side now when our choices are so few.

Newt is a big government type, and seems to think that's okay as long as HE is the one in charge of it, and what gets expanded.

He and I have completely different ideas on this. But, what choice have I got?

I'm starting to think I'll never see another election in which I am enthusiastic about one of the candidates. Maybe that's a good thing, but it doesn't feel good.

133 posted on 12/11/2011 3:16:46 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Is it really time to go?)
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To: Matchett-PI
‘Oh, we’ve got to worry about what they’re gonna say about us, we’ve got to worry about PR, about charges of racism.’
One thing that the LSM for obvioous reasons do not point out, 0's approval ratings among Blacks for the last 2 yrs have been in the 85-92% range. Not surprising, but, IIRC, Carter and Clinton's app ratings among them were always in the mid-90%. that's more significant than it seems. Seems to me whoever wins the primary, if they can get just 10% of the Black vote, which may not be too difficult, 0 is finished.
134 posted on 12/11/2011 3:23:30 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: EGPWS
I wonder what the media is going to try and spring on him to shut him down?

Doesn't matter. In a battle of wits with Newt, they are massively outgunned.

135 posted on 12/11/2011 3:25:22 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Jim Robinson
Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among “conservative” and “very conservative” voters.

When so-called conservatives continuously vote for the likes of Newt Gingrich and John McCain its no wonder this country is being flushed down the toilet.

136 posted on 12/11/2011 3:25:57 PM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: Aria

If we are not sure Newt can win, then it is too late to save the Republic in any case. He certainly is not my choice, but it is what it is.


137 posted on 12/11/2011 3:27:30 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: APatientMan
“Your opinion holds a lot of weight with me, Jim. Unless Palin gets back in (too late I’m told) - Newt will get my vote.”
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He'll get my vote as well.

You know what else? Newt doesn't hate the country like that filthy pig, Marxist who currently infests the Whitehouse.

138 posted on 12/11/2011 3:27:30 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Roninf5-1
I understand your frustration, but Palin and Cain have decided to not run and quit respectively.

With four more years of Obama, the United States is history; with Newt we have a chance. This is our reality.

139 posted on 12/11/2011 3:33:02 PM PST by Artcore
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I think you are and idiot. Just sayin.


140 posted on 12/11/2011 3:38:22 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: Impala64ssa
"...if they can get just 10% of the Black vote, which may not be too difficult, 0 is finished."

That's what we were hoping for with Herman Cain's run. Maybe Newt will pick him for VP? :)

141 posted on 12/11/2011 3:51:56 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: itsahoot

“I think you are and (sic) idiot. Just sayin.”

Do you have any substantive information to explain that comment...or is ad hominem your modus operandi?


142 posted on 12/11/2011 3:55:55 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Roninf5-1

And a third party/Ron Paul spam monkey chimes in with his displeasure over our Republican nomination process. Admittedly, this was a stupid move.

Who is your magic conservative of choice?


143 posted on 12/11/2011 3:56:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Roninf5-1

>>When so-called conservatives continuously vote for the likes of Newt Gingrich and John McCain its no wonder this country is being flushed down the toilet.>>

When so called adults compare John McCain and Newt Gingrich - it’s not wonder we flush their opinions down the toilet.


144 posted on 12/11/2011 4:05:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: La Enchiladita
And it was Santorum who agreed with Romney that truth re Middle East tensions must be tempered with prudence, i.e., Newt was out of line on his Pali pronouncement.

Tempering with prudence the truth about the Middle East has worked sooo well the past 30 or 40 years.

Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty

Both you and Newt are one for two.

145 posted on 12/11/2011 4:08:26 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: SumProVita

Yeah, I’d like to know.


146 posted on 12/11/2011 4:10:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Matchett-PI

A Gingrich/Cain ticket, works for me!


147 posted on 12/11/2011 4:17:23 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: C. Edmund Wright

C. Edmund, I really like you. Some can’t understand you know your stuff because they are in the wilderness. Keep going, C. Edmund.


148 posted on 12/11/2011 4:25:40 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Obama in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: Hoodat
I would surmise that those 82% know nothing about GingrichCare.

I would surmise that you know nothing about GingrichCare. What is in the 300 pages he says he would use in the replacement bill?

149 posted on 12/11/2011 4:50:52 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Jim Robinson
The article makes a point of "but Mitt Romney's big lead in New Hampshire remains..." but then it appears they only have data to report on FL and SC. They throw out the tidbit as if they have some new info on NH. What gives?
150 posted on 12/11/2011 5:11:48 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy our votes")
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