Skip to comments.Newt: FDR Was The ‘Greatest President’ Of The 20th Century
Posted on 12/13/2011 7:56:38 AM PST by lbryce
Newt: FDR Was The Greatest President Of The 20th Century
I heard a montage on his praise of FDR. Pretty pathetic.
I think Newt will get elected. I think, however, we’ll see the same Rasmussen poll number trends as Obama’s. They will quickly go negative, and the causes will be poor performance in the eyes of Conservatives and Independents.
Sadly most days I wouldn’t choose Freepers to be in the trenches with.
To all the FDR haters. WWII was not a minor dust up. 4 terms. Unfortunately most people don’t accept our analysis that FDR prolonged the depression.
Whatever. Newt is brilliantly positioned for the general election. I love it.
Reagan voted for FDR.
I guess the name Ronald Reagan slipped his mind.
Newt, that one statement convinced me that you not a conservative, even slightly.
You will now NEVER get my vote.
It depends on what “great” is. FDR’s domestic policies were not great. His leadership skills in wartime were.
Exactly I have an 85 y/o aunt, do not try telling her FDR was anything but a hero. I think Reagan said he was an FDR dem, then the party left him, etc.
Countdown to NewtBots telling us how this is a BRILLIANT Newt “strategy” to appeal to Democrats to defeat Obama, in 3.....2.....1.....
“I most admired him for ability to juggle his serial adultery.”
That's what Noot realy admires.
One can learn a lot about a man according to who his heroes are/ain’t!
"Sticks and stones may break my bones...but FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT!"
Following Gingrich is like a roller coaster. Once say he says something good (”Palestinians are an invented people”) the next he dishes out crap like this FDR worship.
According to Newt, the era of Reagan is over.
It's looking more and more like Santorum is the only adult in this race. I don't particularly enjoy Little Ricky's lectures, but I'm leaning his direction.
Newt will be a total disaster for Conservatism (and the GOP), if we are foolish enough to choose him.
He is in it for himself. He has a flawed character and personalilty. He is unelectable.
He is a Big Government adherent. He got personally wealthy by milking his public sector activities, not in the private sector.
He changes positions frequently. He is a narcissist. He believes he is smarter than anyone else. He is dangerous.
He was not liked by any of his colleagues, and they know him far better than we do, and it’s not because he was more conservative than them. In fact, he has no core principles except whatever is good for Newt.
Don’t drink the Newt Koolaid.
Sorry Newt, that distinction goes to Ronald Reagan, hands down.
FDR fought the war...no doubt. But his policies during the war, and particularly his affinity to “Uncle Joe”, who was as big a butcher to his own people as Hitler or Mao, directly led to the enslavement of 200 million people in eatern Europe under the brutal COmmunist Russian boot after the war as a result of his sell out at Yalta.
It also led to the slaughter of any who opposed it in Hungary, Czeckslovakia, etc.
On the other hand, Reagan through his America first, strong military, star wars, and a citry on a hill policies led to the downfall of the Soviet Empire and the freedom of those 200 million people.
Not to mention what Reagan did for a seriously ailing US economy at the time...producing the biggest bnoom of the century.
Such comments continue to lead me to have more and more angsat about Newt and his candidacy...though in the end he will be light years ahead of Obama and we simply must stop Obama’s re-election and put in place a House and Senate who will ensure that our President holds the line.
Oh, you baaaad Mist’ Rhett...
Historian Geoffrey C. Ward titled his biography of FDR “A First-Class Temperament.” I think that perfectly sums up FDR. Many of his policies were absolutely misguided, but he had that certain something, a confidence that makes a leader inspiring. He established the standard for what is presidential in terms of temperament. Reagan had it too, but not like FDR.
Reagan praised FDR, too.
Exactly. Considering that FDR ushured us through the greatest economic crises in US history (the Great Depression)(even though badly...), AND the greatest war in world history (WWII), AND that he was in power for over 12 years.... one can call him the "greatest" (certainly the most influential) president of the 20th Century.
Of course in the "influential" sense, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were "great" too.
Besides all that, FDR's biggest wartime leadership skill--was his military ignorance--and leaving the war up to the generals.
Blessedly, Marshall, MacArthur, Eisenhower, et al., were real pros.
It's not that FDR prolonged the depression. It's just that, like the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, he used pointy-headed academicians who had no real-world experience to theorize us out of the doldrums. And he had an even MORE fawning press corps to tell the unwashed masses how brilliant he was.
Been reading "A Patriot's History of the US" by Larry Schweikert, and the parallels between BHO's policies and those of FDR are downright scary.
according to or thanks to?
Great means something different to a historian than everyone else.
Think of historical figures who have “the Great” appended to their names. They weren’t all rainbows and skittles, some of them were tyrants. “Great” in this definition means powerful, effective, not necessarily someone you agree with.
Do I know that’s what Newt meant? Not at all, but it’s possible.
BTW, Reagan praised FDR too, and he turned out OK.
I just shrug at them.
They are pimping another candidate, and this is how they think they will help them rise in the polls.
Reviews:"FDR Goes to War is a page-turning tour de force -- and a scholarly one, at that -- of the politics and economics of America's involvement in WWII. Be prepared to rethink much of what you think you know about FDR, the war, and the post-Depression U.S. economy." --Don Bordreaux, Chairman of the Department of Economics at George Mason University "In New Deal or Raw Deal? Burt Folsom exposed FDR's failed policies during the Great Depression. Now, in FDR Goes to War, he pulls the curtain back even further. Burt and Anita Folsom have produced a book that should be read by all Americans. This is the real history you do not find in textbooks." -- James P. Duffy, author of Lindbergh Vs. Roosevelt
"Few in the history profession have done more to shed light on the real Franklin Delano Roosevelt than Burt Folsom. With FDR Goes to War, Folsom and his wife Anita educate Americans on the facts we should have known but were never taught.
You will find this book both shocking and refreshing." -- Lawrence W. Reed, president, Foundation for Economic Education
"A compelling look at a fascinating man in a devastating war. This is the FDR concealed for over half a century by liberal academics and biased journalists. You will learn a lot from this engaging and readable book." -- Paul Kengor, professor of political science, Grove City College, and author of Dupes Product Description From the acclaimed author of New Deal or Raw Deal?, called eye-opening by the National Review
I can’t believe a Conservative would vote for Newt. And multiple marriages made freepers go nuts when Rudy ran.
I’m supporting Perry. I think he has a second round in him.
Here is a snippet:
“Roosevelt, according to Reagan, was a strong leader, one to emulate in certain respects. He had taken over the presidency during a time of unprecedented crisis and implemented a plan of action to bring the nation out of its doldrums. Reagan fondly recalled FDRs Fireside Chats, which were designed to give hope to the people. His strong, gentle, confident voice resonated across the nation with an eloquence that brought comfort and resilience to a nation caught up in a storm and reassured us that we could lick any problem. I will never forget him for that. As governor of California later, Reagan had to deal with a Democratic legislature. It occurred to me that I had an opportunity to go over their heads. How? He used radio and television to communicate directly with the people of California, a tactic he traced back to FDRs Fireside Chats, which, he commented, made an indelible mark on me during the Depression.
As president, Reagan often mentioned his admiration for FDRs spirit of leadership. On a trip back to his alma mater, Eureka College, in 1984, he reminded his listeners what it was like to experience the Great Depression, and how the Fireside Chats had been so reassuring. All of us who lived through those years, he instructed them, remember the drabness the depression brought. But we remember, too, how people pulled together, that sense of community and shared values, that belief in American enterprise and democracy that saw us through. It was that engrained American optimism, that sense of hope Franklin Roosevelt so brilliantly summoned and mobilized. In his view, FDR was instrumental in reviving an inherent American optimism that was endangered by the economic crisis.”
Myself...I don't care for FDR much except giving him credit for most of his conduct in WWII...but not all..(Yalta, work up to Potsdam)
But older folks often have misty views on the FDR legacy...my dad didn't but my mom did..both were GOP from Ike on as young parents
I bet you can mine comments of even Buckley and Barry saying something nice about FDR ...
if Beck (a loon to me) or any of you guys wish to go 3rd...then that is nothing but a vote for Obama
and Beck going for Mr Weird about Jews Ron Paul is absurd and ain't gonna happen
there is no man on the planet who wishes he were Jewish by birth more than Glenn Beck...except maybe a few freepers
Mittens made a valid point that after politicians leave office they hang around and do consultant work, like banks hiring thieves to help them combat theft.
It concerns me when a so called conservative attacks private industry while calling on government solutions for the rest of us to pay for. Not much difference between a progressive liberal democrat and a progressive republican except for the D or R after their name. Conservatives here better wake up and rediscover what Conservatism is.
In one respect both FDR and Truman were great. Their bungling resurrected interest in the Republican alternative.
I’d like to see the Newt’s speeches where these clips were derived in full. I worry about Newt being “effective”. I think that is the main thing that he admires about FDR. (although FDR was very effective at socialism) I don’t want to rely on congress to keep Newt in check if he is elected. It needs to be the other way around. We need an effective president, but he needs to be effective in eliminating government - entire departments.
I seem to remember the period from 1995 - 1998 working out pretty well for conservatism despite Slick Willie being President...Newt deserves credit for that.
Newt is a progressive, liberal, republican. He will “newk” the conservatives once he gets anywhere close to the nomination, and certainly if he ever wins the Presidency (almost no chance he beats Obama).
Nail. Coffin. Final.
My high school history teacher noted that most of those rulers who have "the great" appended to their names killed a lot of people.
Yet these same FReepers ignore Limbaugh's multiple nuptials
Newt is a BIG Government guy. His wealth, fame and book sales are a direct result of his fondness, and unshakable belief in the goodness of a Big Brother Style US Federal Government.
The US Nanny-State got a big boost when Teddy Roosevelt urged the creation of the US Department of Education (1912), and National education levels have been going downward ever since.
TR’s cousin, FDR, rammed through the Socialist Security Ponzi System, and it went bankrupt in 2010.
FDR’s fair-haired boy was LBJ, and he and Martin Luther King, Jr. gave us Medicare and Medicaid, which bankrupted the US Federal Government decades ago.
Not to be outdone, the Republicans became RINOS and gave us Food Stamps (Nixon), and “No child Left Behind” (GWB).
Thus, Chairman Obama found it easy to Nationalize the Medical and Insurance segments of our bankrupt economy, when he rammed through Obama”care” on Christmas Eve, 2009.
Who was the GREATEST President as:
a.) Contributor to today’s Welfare/Entitlement Plantation?
b.) Leader of the Free World in time of military crisis?
c.) Defender of the US Constitution?
d.) An inspiration to future generations of American Citizens?
On the basis of the above quiz, I’d say that Nanny-State Newt would choose “a” and “d” for FDR, possibly “b”, but not “c.”
Nanny-Newt say: “Big Government has been belly, belly goood to me!”
My mom was a very conservative person. But she also admired FDR. I suspect that Ronald Reagan also had great respect for FDR. The Newt bashers are really desperate.
How is that Kool-aid?
Gingrich praises Teddy, Franklin and admits on the radio he is a progressive...
What exactly are you waiting for?
Do you really want to vote another progressive in the WH?
Like Newt, I was brain washed as a child about what a wonderful President FDR was. As I grew older and learned more about politics and politicians, I saw him in a much different light. I totally disagree with Newt in regards to FDR and do not want a President who believes that BS.
Oh, wait, Newt fancies himself an historian...
“Unfortunately most people dont accept our analysis that FDR prolonged the depression.
It’s not that FDR prolonged the depression. It’s just that, like the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, he used pointy-headed academicians who had no real-world experience to theorize us out of the doldrums.”
It is true that FDR was a disaster economically. However, he did admit many times to the public that he didnt know what he was doing with his economic programs, and that he was just trying to do as many things as he could think of, knowing that lots of things he was doing was not going to work. He said many times he is going to try something, and if it doesnt work then he will try again. I give credit to FDR for at least admitting that he was just guessing about what to do with the Great Depression. Lots of people back then and even today dont know what to do to keep us out of economic depressions. Even some of today’s economists don’t know what they are talking about.
OTOH, FDR handled WW2 brilliantly! The more I study WW2 the more credit I have to give FDR for making all the right decisions, for choosing people like Halsey, McAurther, and Eisenhower for his military leaders, for building an alliance with England and Russia to effectively squeeze germany, invading Europe via Normandy so that the Soviets would not take over Europe, the A-bomb, the way FDR created mind-numbing war time production. From Normandy to V-E Day it took FDR less than a year to defeat Hitler. Most people dont realize that WW2 could have easily been lost.
FDR was the last president to get a Congressional declaration to go to war, the last president to earnestly completely fight to win, and the last American President to win a war.
You are thinking in terms of politics, and Gingrich is thinking in terms of history.
Everything in the 20th century was touched by FDR after he won his first election.
The Great Depression has his mark (good or ill) on it.
He actually was a GREAT war-time president, and he had the good sense to allow generals to fight his wars, and won WWII in a 3rd of the time we’ve been in Iraq and Afghanistan throwing away a military victory on the ground in favor of a long-term loss due to nation rebuilding.
He will be perhaps forever the only president to win 4 terms.
His mark is so firmly on the nation’s intelligence community that I doubt it will ever be forgotten.
Reagan is the only other president to compete with FDR, and his contribution was HUGE! His vision and clarity brought down the Soviet Union and ended the cold war.
Unfortunately, he was limited to 2 terms, and was hampered toward the end with the machinations of Congress and political enemies as well as by his own weakening skills.
I agree with the Gingrich history lesson.
A lot of FDR’s policies were merely continuations of policies established under Hoover, but given new names.