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Newt Can't Win
newtcantwin.com/ ^ | 12/13/2011 | John Ziegler

Posted on 12/14/2011 3:24:46 PM PST by jtonn

So, there are others who question Newt's viability. Apparently, Glenn isn't the only one. Even Rush brought attention to Newt's praise of Andy Stern.

Like Herman, perhaps where there's smoke, there may be fire.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ziegler; ziegler4obama; ziegler4romney; ziegler4romneycare
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1 posted on 12/14/2011 3:24:49 PM PST by jtonn
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To: jtonn

newtcantlose.com


2 posted on 12/14/2011 3:27:03 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: jtonn

Like Herman? Really? All I saw was smoke created quite possibly by the GOP itself.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 3:28:23 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: jtonn

jtonncantpostintelligently.com


4 posted on 12/14/2011 3:29:40 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: jtonn

I don’t think he can either. The media is holding its fire now but will eat his lunch when the time is right. (about the time he makes the traditional move to the center after winning the nomination)


5 posted on 12/14/2011 3:30:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: jtonn

“MF Global can’t lose” - Jon Corzine.


6 posted on 12/14/2011 3:30:40 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: jtonn

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/12/14/newts_past_and_future_leadership_112396.html


7 posted on 12/14/2011 3:30:51 PM PST by newheart (Newt's a loose cannon, but at least he knows who the real target is?)
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To: jtonn

One RomneyBOT backstabber quotes another.

WHO CARES.

Ziegler is a Romney PIMP. Disgusting.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 3:31:10 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Notwithstanding

My apologies.

Here’s the link.

http://newtcantwin.com/


9 posted on 12/14/2011 3:31:28 PM PST by jtonn
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To: jtonn

Of course he can’t ...

he’s a moderate, elitist talking like a conservative.

Two years ago he aligned himself with Mitt, Jeb, McCain, Cantor, McConnell, Blunt, Thune, Kyl, Cornyn, Hutchinson, et al, to “remake the GOP.”

IMHO, Newt will end up endorsing Mitt.

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/gingrich-to-be-a-public-face-of-cantors-effort-to-remake-gop/

Gingrich Joins Cantor’s Effort To Remake GOP

Newt Gingrich has joined Eric Cantor’s new effort to remake the GOP for the future, a Cantor spokesperson confirms.

“Speaker Gingrich will be joining the National Council for a New America as one of the members of our national panel of experts,” Cantor spokesperson Joe Pounder tells me, confirming a Chris Cillizza item based on anonymous sources.

“It is generally recognized that Speaker Gingrich is a man who’s putting forth bold ideas in the party,” Pounder continues. “It’s only natural that he would join an organization that seeks to apply conservative principles to everyday challenges. That’s what Speaker Gingrich has been doing for the past couple of years.”

Cantor’s group has taken some hits from Mike Huckabee and other conservatives who argue that the group has de-emphasized social issues in an effort to rebrand the GOP at the expense of social conservatives. Rush Limbaugh slammed the group as a “scam.”

(snip)


10 posted on 12/14/2011 3:31:28 PM PST by maggief
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To: jtonn
Here's guessing Ziegler won't have a problem finding a taker for his $10,000 bet if Newt is the nominee.
11 posted on 12/14/2011 3:31:47 PM PST by Kazan
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To: jtonn

John ZieglerISAWEENIE.com = read no further.

Thanksverymuch!


12 posted on 12/14/2011 3:32:24 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: jtonn

You know it’s Willard Romney who can’t win. But if he does we’re stuck with an northern liberal RINOfrom Mass, and he’s a Mormon to boot. Doesn’t anyone find that troublesome. I sure do.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 3:32:38 PM PST by RichardMoore (Constitution Party)
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To: jtonn
I won't say Newt can't win.
But I will say that anyone who thinks he won't get the Sarah Palin treatment, in spades, is incredibly naive, IMO.
14 posted on 12/14/2011 3:32:50 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: jtonn

Newt can and will win!


15 posted on 12/14/2011 3:33:01 PM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: cripplecreek
One more time, there is NO CENTER.

Candidates who think there is a center, and "move to it" are actually just getting involved with the "fringe", and that's not enough voters to make a difference.

What they have to do is RETAIN THEIR BASE and seek to DETACH A FACTION OR PART OF A FACTION from the other party.

16 posted on 12/14/2011 3:33:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: jtonn

And Mark leds off his show today repeating if he could vote today he would vote for one of the two conservatives, Bachmann or Santorum.


17 posted on 12/14/2011 3:34:59 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: RichardMoore
Not really ~ he's simply a lot like Henry Cabot Lodge. As we recall from our ancient history it was the Nixon/Lodge ticket that LOST against the Kennedy/Johnson ticket.

There we had two of these guys on the ticket, and possibly JFK was the most Conservative one in the crowd. He wanted to cut income taxes!

18 posted on 12/14/2011 3:36:18 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: All

Quick reminder!

John Zeigler was convinced Sarah Palin was a sure loser.

How would she be faring now? :)


19 posted on 12/14/2011 3:36:18 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: jtonn

Of course, we’re supposed to believe Ziegler because he accurately picked the outcome of the 2000, 2004 and 2008 elections. Of course, so did I and millions of others...


20 posted on 12/14/2011 3:38:24 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Revolting cat!

Buy EU debt, make a killing. LOL


21 posted on 12/14/2011 3:38:24 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: muawiyah

That election in 1960 is one that I remember quite well. Out of 60 million votes Kennedy won by 100,000. The election was stolen in West Virginia and Chicago. We are not going to get Ron Paul or anyone like him, unfortuneately. And Newt is an intellectual who can win. And he is a convert to catholicism. That’s enough for me. Kennedy was a phoney from the get go. The press hated Nixon because of Alger Hiss. Look it us


22 posted on 12/14/2011 3:42:08 PM PST by RichardMoore (Constitution Party)
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To: jtonn

If you are so convinced that he can’t win, then why worry about it. He is still useful in the run-up to keep the rest of the field on their toes. What’s wrong with having some competition?


23 posted on 12/14/2011 3:42:29 PM PST by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: All

Beck had this guy on gbtv tonight to put this website out for everyone and ensure Newt does not win.


24 posted on 12/14/2011 3:42:59 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: astratt7

I agree. I think he will kick the “ Magic Negro’s “ a$$!


25 posted on 12/14/2011 3:42:59 PM PST by Renegade
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To: jtonn
Newt Zero Can't Win
26 posted on 12/14/2011 3:43:19 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: onyx

poorly


27 posted on 12/14/2011 3:44:19 PM PST by mamelukesabre (.)
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To: jtonn

It is totally ridiculous to see Republicans/Conservatives fighting to tear each other apart in a brawl largely sponsored by the left. Every Republican that has risen in the polls has come under attack. One right after the other they rise in the polls — and then are brought down. This time it’s people on our side who are eating their own. Good lord this is making me sick. Why can’t these idiots see they are playing right into the hands of the opposition? Kill off the best candidates to run against Obummer so we run another Mclame.


28 posted on 12/14/2011 3:45:15 PM PST by vortigern
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To: jtonn

Rasmussen just came out with a poll showing Newt down by 10 (49% to 39%) to Obama. Even Ron Paul is down only 8 pts to Obama. He says only Mitt leads Obama but I can not find that poll on the website. I know polls do not really matter this early out but geez! 10 pts! Newt is going to have trouble getting the womens vote.


29 posted on 12/14/2011 3:46:43 PM PST by willk
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To: cripplecreek

Per some threads, Gingrich is already losing some ground in Iowa due to the attack ads from his competitors.

Many who jumped on the Gingrich bandwagon had no idea of his history. Many jumped on Gingrich’s bandwagon because he was sort of the last Great White-haired Hope for them.

Many are trying to sell the new, improved, Version 2.0 Gingrich. Many others are not buying it.


30 posted on 12/14/2011 3:49:05 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: jtonn

Palin can’t win; Cain can’t win; Newt can’t win; Trump can’t win; I guess we should just let Obama stay for another 4 years or until he’s done destroying our country, then I’ll bet even Micheal Savage could win.


31 posted on 12/14/2011 3:51:01 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing out!)
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To: jtonn
In 2008 with an ongoing war on islamists this nation elected an inexperienced punk named Barack Hussein Obama.
32 posted on 12/14/2011 3:52:25 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: willk
"Newt is going to have trouble getting the womens vote."

You can fool women once.

Adult women are focused on the family budget.

Obama is killing it!

Newt promises to restore the economy.

A GOP generic beats Obama 49-41.

I don't believe 51 % of the voters enjoy S&M.

33 posted on 12/14/2011 3:53:44 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: jtonn

Let’s look at Gingrich’s record:

Wrote the “Contract With America” and brought the GOP to a majority in the House for the first time in 40 years.

Kept every promise in the “Contract With America”

Only Republican to lead, and win, an effort to cut an entitlement — welfare.

Only Republican to lead, and win, an effort to balance the budget.

Only Republican to lead, and win in the House, term limits.

Only Republican to lead, and win, the Congressional Responsibility Act, which subjected members to the same laws all citizens must adhere.

Boehner tried to topple Gingrich becuase the liberals smeared him with the ethics investigation along with the media.....similar to what they did to Cain.

Sorry, but you can pull out all the Gingrich quotes....I will stick to what the man did while Speaker of the House.....which pissed off most Republicans who wanted more pork (as witnessed by what happened after Gingrich left).


34 posted on 12/14/2011 3:54:16 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Diogenesis
a Romney PIMP

Dangit!

I kan't do no pimpin'. My state primary ain't 'til late May. By then, it'll all be over but the shoutin' anyway. If the nominee ain't decided by then, we are headin' for a 'broken' convention.

It'll be interesting to see which ones are still standin' by late May.
35 posted on 12/14/2011 3:55:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: truthkeeper
But I will say that anyone who thinks he won't get the Sarah Palin treatment, in spades, is incredibly naive

Maybe you don't remember the hell Reagan received, in spades, when he ran. I do remember and it was staggering. It all worked out pretty well for Reagan though. Gingrich is the best communicator of the bunch. If he can remain disciplined and take his message to the people, like Reagan, without relying on the msm, he will do fine.

Polls this far out are absolutely meaningless. Most polls had Carter winning big until the end. I also recall Bob Shrum calling John Kerry "Mr. President" based on exit polling. The campaign is just beginning. Anyone claiming Newt can't win has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

36 posted on 12/14/2011 4:00:01 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: jtonn
This election is like a magician's grand gesture in the direction of his scantily clad attention divertrix.

37 posted on 12/14/2011 4:02:30 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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Zeigler of course is the scumbag who slandered S Palin, why would anyone take anything he says seriously.

Other than to think is Ziegler dislike Gingrich it speaks well of Gingrich.


38 posted on 12/14/2011 4:03:21 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Nice list and an excellent reminder that actions are more important than, well......anything.

Those are all rock solid conservative accomplishments that the MSM, mittwits and paultards can't lie about or twist out of context.

39 posted on 12/14/2011 4:06:12 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: jtonn
The “web site” is a crock of feces! It is probably one of Axlerod’s “monkey butt” operations
40 posted on 12/14/2011 4:08:36 PM PST by texican01
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To: TomGuy

The liberal republicans lost the house majority that Gingrich won.

The RINOS are identical to democrats. Same animal, different stripes.


41 posted on 12/14/2011 4:17:45 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: jtonn

I’m getting awfully tired of people telling me who can or can’t win.


42 posted on 12/14/2011 4:20:20 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: jtonn

Romney can’t win, because conservatives will not vote for him, period.


43 posted on 12/14/2011 4:23:18 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: jtonn
Anybody could beat the Obozo unless the fix is already set. Given the fact that both houses just pasted a bill where, at the president's command the government can detain an American citizen in the US indefinitely without charges and without access to an attorney, I'd say the fix is already set. Today the Obozo said he will act, once again, without congress regarding the threat of another government shutdown. Frankly, we've already lost the opportunity to do anything in a legal since to retain our liberty and to save this country for our kids and grand-kids.
44 posted on 12/14/2011 4:24:48 PM PST by drypowder
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To: jtonn

www.shutupandgoaway.org

Please ignore the hype and piss bucket carriers for Obama.


45 posted on 12/14/2011 4:26:10 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: cripplecreek
The media is holding its fire now but will eat his lunch when the time is right.

And just what do you think they will do to Romney ?
46 posted on 12/14/2011 4:48:35 PM PST by uncbob
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And just what do you think they will do to Romney ?

The same but Romney hasn't planted a minefield for himself. That doesn't mean either can win.
47 posted on 12/14/2011 4:54:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s already begun. Mark Shields on PBS News Hour described Gingrich as “emotionally unstable.” This will be the line of attack. The fact that Gingrich has been married multiple times, twice to mistresses (his current wife was his partner in adultery; great advertisement for the party of family values)suggests someone who has not been trustworthy in one of the most important relationships in life. I can’t imagine why evangelicals would be supporting this guy. To also suggest he is a committed, reliable conservative is ridiculous. He’s as much a progressive as Romney. At least Romney is a solid family man who’s been married to the same woman since high school, has a beautiful family, and hasn’t been pushed out of office because of questionable ethics.

I really don’t think average voters who aren’t particularly partisan will oust the genial, even-tempered (or so he appears) Obama for someone whom the media will portray as too flaky and unpredictable to have his finger on the nuclear button. Ain’t going to happen.


48 posted on 12/14/2011 4:54:26 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: willk

That doesn’t jive with the poll showing Newt beating Obama in all 12 swing states.

These polls jump around like a streetwalker.


49 posted on 12/14/2011 5:05:04 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: jtonn
Newt's praise of Andy Stern.

And how does Obama feel about Andy Stern? I guess this will be a non-issue in any Obama-Gingrich contest.

ML/NJ

50 posted on 12/14/2011 5:06:36 PM PST by ml/nj
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