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Rasmussen Poll-Election 2012: Obama 49%, Gingrich 39%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 12-14-2011 | Rasmussen

Posted on 12/14/2011 7:33:53 PM PST by willk

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To: fantom

Looks play a role but for a lot of people, if Obama just looks in the camera, says “I feel your pain” and just tells sad stories of little girls that will die horrible deaths from poverty and lack of health care if Gingrich is President, he’ll “win” the debate.


151 posted on 12/14/2011 9:19:29 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: untwist
Between Michele, Rick P., Romney and Grandpa Ron, Newt is being hit hard by a sum of at least 40% of the GOP base... and a lot of FReepers who are to young to remember the mid-1990s or have not been following the debates.
152 posted on 12/14/2011 9:21:33 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: garjog

“OK, so the national poll of likely voters puts Obama over Gingrich.

But, consider: We don’t have to win in New York or California.

Newt just needs to win back swing states by taking a little more than half of what Obumjob won last time.”

This is true. Too bad we couldn’t get Rasmussen state polling now of our candidates vs Obama.


153 posted on 12/14/2011 9:23:49 PM PST by willk
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To: TitansAFC

Here’s an anecdotal example of how one Democrat voter I know is reacting to Newt. He’s a relative in his 60s who’s voted Democrat all his life up to the last election, but was a Hilary backer last time and I believe switched over for the first time and voted for McCain. He told me he isn’t sure if he’s going to vote for Obama this time, but that he likes Newt the best out of the primary candidates. He says he’s clearly the smartest one of the bunch. “Smarts” are important to liberals, let’s not forget. He says most of the other candidates sound stupid or are basically unelectable flakes. As for Romney, he just doesn’t seem to connect with him, and also feels like he’s an out-of-touch millionaire, sort of his typical view of the Republican party and why he doesn’t like them.

Bottom line, Newt’s intelligence is going to go a long way towards softening up liberals who love to bash the Republican party for being stupid, as we saw with Reagan, Quayle, W, Palin, etc.


154 posted on 12/14/2011 9:24:09 PM PST by JediJones (Professor of Palintology)
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To: garjog

“OK, so the national poll of likely voters puts Obama over Gingrich.

But, consider: We don’t have to win in New York or California.

Newt just needs to win back swing states by taking a little more than half of what Obumjob won last time.”

This is true. Too bad we couldn’t get Rasmussen state polling now of our candidates vs Obama.


155 posted on 12/14/2011 9:24:12 PM PST by willk
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To: TitansAFC

Exactly. Also, I don’t know if the sampling skews more democrat. I find it hard to believe a valid poll that at this point has Obama at 49% with only 12% undecided. I would expect Obama at best peaking at 45% with a higher undecided.


156 posted on 12/14/2011 9:27:09 PM PST by untwist
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To: stockpirate

Women are not going to vote for a trophy wife, the whole idea they will is plumb dumb.


157 posted on 12/14/2011 9:28:33 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: JediJones
Jedi . I have no argument with what you say . Remember , Quayle did serve as VP. I agree the election does not come down to looks ( except for 2008 of course). Lets face it Newt will be spending all of his time fighting the past . Effective communications are meaningless if they are not heard. I remember Sen McCain on stage running around like Yosemite Sam. Like it or not looks do matter to much of the general public. Newt does not have to convince us .
158 posted on 12/14/2011 9:29:46 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: COgamer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN8GPQgIusc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=349DpnEm4Lo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6DdrMBSI5Xk

159 posted on 12/14/2011 9:33:45 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: TexMom7
"Women will not vote for Newt" is questionable.

It is only conservative women who care and polls are showing that conservatives are Newt's strongest supporters just now.

Liberal women like morally loose men like Clinton who mistreated more women than Newt ever did. Clinton is revered by Democrats and "independents" everywhere and would easily win another run for president if that were possible.

Fact is: Newt's first marriage was the result of child abuse by an older woman. The second marriage did involve infidelity, but Newt has repented and so he is not unlike Reagan who also had a failed marriage -- that didn't hurt his ability to lead. It is said that Reagan slept with Nancy before they were married.

Both Gingrich's divorces were annulled by his church. (Not sure how the second one was annulled but that is what happened.)

Bottom line: Gingrich is a sinner saved by grace like all of us. But, we need someone who can fix our political problems and he is the best choice to continue the Reagan Revolution and start balancing budgets and cutting welfare like he did in the 1990s.


160 posted on 12/14/2011 9:35:39 PM PST by garjog
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To: garjog
You have a magic 8 ball saying that debates will take place, ok, who is going to win the super bowl and what is the point spread and the top four in next years Kentucky derby in the order they finish. Thanks we can all get rich quick.
161 posted on 12/14/2011 9:37:29 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Bachmann, Santorum, or Huntsman is a winning ticket.

The problem is that not one of them have listed their agenda, goals and objectives. They're typical politicians who merely recite the "Vote for me" mantra.

On the other hand... http://www.newt.org/contract/videos

162 posted on 12/14/2011 9:47:22 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: JediJones

“Newt’s intelligence is going to go a long way towards softening up liberals who love to bash the Republican party for being stupid,”

Excellent analysis. They can’t say that Newt is stupid like they normally do to all of our candidates. The debates will feature his intelligence so well that he will win over people as he exposes what a fraud Obama is.

Moreover, I wonder if the fact that Newt mistreated his second wife, as horrible as that is for conservative Christians to consider, might actually resonate with “Independents” or conservative Democrats who have had similar experiences with failed marriages. “Hey, this guy is human just like me.”


163 posted on 12/14/2011 9:48:44 PM PST by garjog
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To: Cato in PA
If you try to tear down Newt before we have a suitable replacement...

Exactly Right. These attacks from republicans would have a great deal more weight if there was at least some evidence there was some thinking behind them to get Bachmann or Santorum to the forefront. Until that evidence surfaces, these attacks are destructive to the conservative movement. I'd GLADLY move from the Newt camp to the Bachmann or Santorum camp, BUT, its now Primary Season Eve. We can't let the Romster get in with his paltry 25% by ensuring that Newt, Bachmann, AND Santorum are ALL individually below 25%.

164 posted on 12/14/2011 9:48:54 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy our votes")
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To: garjog
Great illustration!
165 posted on 12/14/2011 9:49:31 PM PST by willk
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To: fantom

Yeah but Quayle became a liability in 1992 after the media made a narrative out of his gaffes.

I do not agree that Newt has to run from his past. He has an incredible record from the beginning of his career as a grass-roots conservative leader through taking over the House in 1994 and passing a lot of legislation that has people now looking back on the ‘90s with great fondness.

Besides, the stuff people are bashing him for now in the primary like the Pelosi ad absolutely cannot be used by Democrats in the general election. That’s why I think some of this was strategy so he can come back and say he can work with Democrats, something the general electorate likes. Plus he has a record of doing that with Clinton.

I doubt most voters were even aware of McCain’s infidelity and divorce, so that wasn’t an issue last time. And McCain was a POOR communicator, totally unlike Newt on that front. Newt isn’t going to say “I’m not very good on the economy” or that “Obama would make a good president.” Newt will hit Obama hard.


166 posted on 12/14/2011 9:52:46 PM PST by JediJones (Professor of Palintology)
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To: garjog

I’m not wild about Newt’s infidelity BUT that is not why I would not vote for him.

Newt = Big Government
Romney = Big Government

I do admire a man who is faithful to his wife BUT

that is not why I am voting for Perry.

I am voting for Perry because he understands smaller government, states rights, gun rights, less regulation, cut federal spending, a balanced federal budget, lower taxes, creating an environment that allows Americans to create jobs, energy independence, strong military/defense, strong faith and value issues, securing the border and getting the federal government out of our lives allowing We The People more Freedom.


167 posted on 12/14/2011 9:53:42 PM PST by TexMom7
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To: garjog

I don’t think Newt’s found the best way to spin his divorces yet. It actually felt like he shrunk back from answering that question in much detail in the last debate because he didn’t want people who might not have heard about it to realize they were talking about him. I think he needs to use stronger language and say he regrets what he did profoundly, say he’s embarrassed by his past, reiterate asking forgiveness from God and say he’s tried in the last decade to turn his life around and become the kind of husband, father and grandfather that his family deserves. His ego’s been getting in the way of him truly showing humility on this front.

Bottom line, though, as someone said, it’s conservatives who are more likely to be upset about the infidelity. Democrats tend to consider that sort of thing a non-issue. They might more or less use it shamelessly as a campaign tactic, but they might even shy away from that because of how easy it would be to bring up Clinton and to point to how popular he still is among Democrats.

I’m not sure the Democrats have a solid negative narrative on Newt yet. With Bachmann and Paul it would be “they’re crazy,” with Perry and Santorum it would be “they’re stupid,” and with Romney it would be the Bain capital/Carly Fiorina/Meg Whitman angle of making him out to be a heartless corporate 1%er who threw his employees under the bus and doesn’t understand the plight of the working man (A la the G.W. Bush 2nd term attack over the price of groceries, was it?). No idea on Huntsman either...maybe that’s why Clinton said he thought he’d be a formidable candidate, no real negatives to speak of.

They may try angling for Newt on the “crazy” angle because of some of his ideas, but he parried one of those pretty well with the moonbase answer last time, and his obvious intelligence is a good counter-strike to accusations of an unstable mind. The infidelity and the lack of private sector experience don’t work well as attacks for Democrats. They’re probably going to have to fall back on him being a “mean” conservative who is going to cut welfare. I don’t know if we’ve had to run against that line of attack for a while. Maybe Dole a little? I’m too young to remember how the Nixon campaigns played out, I only know that he won twice.


168 posted on 12/14/2011 10:07:54 PM PST by JediJones (Professor of Palintology)
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To: chris_bdba

You:”Amen and btw as a woman I don’t really care what Newt and his wives did.I’m looking for a President not a husband....”

Newt’s unfaithfulness is not why I will not vote for him.

I’m not looking for a President that is a smooth talker or smooth debater, I’m looking for a principled conservative who has a solid record. And for me, that is Perry.


169 posted on 12/14/2011 10:10:14 PM PST by TexMom7
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To: willk

I would NOT trust Rasmussen counting my fingers..


170 posted on 12/14/2011 10:10:23 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: org.whodat
"You have a magic 8 ball saying that debates will take place,"

We can count on at least three Presidential debates since that has occurred in every election since JFK vs Nixon.

Newt has argued for seven debates to parallel Lincoln vs Douglas and believes that Obama will accept since Obama has a fantasy that he is the re-incarnation of Abe.

Chaos theory says rightly that no one can predict what will happen next. But, based on Newt's stellar performance in ever debate I've seen him in during the last months I am confident that he will be impressive against Obama.

Based also on watching Obama coldly read the prompter, punctuated by "ums" and "ahs" every other sentence over the last three years, I'd say that he certainly hasn't lived up to the moniker of being a great orator.

And judging by the fact that Obama's ideas are bankrupted or corrupt I'd say that Newt stand a fair chance at trouncing Obama in the debates.

It will be brainy Newt vs twitty Barak.

Thus speaks my eight ball.


171 posted on 12/14/2011 10:10:45 PM PST by garjog
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To: willk

Once Newt wins nomination and starts focusing in on Obama — these numbers will change. Unless the general public is completely brain dead, they’ll eventually understand why Newt is much more qualified to be President than Obama ever was. The Republicans still have to make the case to replace Obama (which is sad to begin with) and there is nobody better to make the case than Newt.


172 posted on 12/14/2011 10:15:18 PM PST by larryleo (We all need to get Newtered!)
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To: Steelfish

“Independents and women will either stay at home or vote for whom they believe is the cool guy”

I believe the struggle for survival by election time may put these women in line for a smart guy with anwers than a dumbass golfer in a suit eating $100 a pound steak.


173 posted on 12/14/2011 10:16:17 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: garjog

I think you forgot to turn the ball over each time.


174 posted on 12/14/2011 10:20:39 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: TexMom7

Which one of those things is Newt not running on in this campaign? The only thing you could say he wavers on is immigration, but then so does Perry. From what I understand, Texan conservatives aren’t bothered much by illegals, would never act to get rid of the cheap labor, and are integrated much better with Hispanics in general than they are in California. The fact is there are very few illegals that are ever going to leave this country. Already Alabama is rolling back their tough immigration law because it’s messed up a status quo that people were more or less happy with. There are very few if any concrete gains to be made by evicting millions of illegals and a lot to lose in terms of Hispanic votes.

I want a secure border and I want an orderly immigration process that allows people from all over the world to come here, not just South Americans. But at a certain point it becomes like the Palestinians expecting the Israelis to leave. It’s just not humane to expect long-term residents entrenched where they are to be uprooted and deported elsewhere. If they had children here, parts of their families are U.S. citizens, so we’d basically be allowing a lot of these people right back with legal visas to be with their families or work visas. So the whole immigration fight ends up coming down to a piece of paper and not much else. We have far more to gain by having a compassionate policy on this particular issue and warming the party up to the Hispanic vote.


175 posted on 12/14/2011 10:22:02 PM PST by JediJones (Professor of Palintology)
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To: TexMom7

OK, you are voting for Perry because of his small government positions and think Newt is for big government.

Can’t be sure, but in a few weeks Perry may be dropping out because few people share your support. Maybe he can turn it around, but you know it doesn’t look that way.

Just like in the super bowl you have to route for the team you like the most if your home team didn’t make the play offs. The presidential play offs are going on now and Perry will probably be cut.

I like Rush’s analysis about Newt being a good alternative to Romney:

“Who was the last person to actually cut government? Who was the last person who actually led a movement that balanced the federal budget? Who was the person that did that? You’re not gonna take a guess? That’s right, it was Mr. Newt! He was the last guy who gave us a balanced budget. Now, there are a lot of other Republicans involved — Kasich was key and a lot of others — but Gingrich was Speaker. The last time this budget was balanced, the last time there was true welfare reform, the last time government was cut, Gingrich did it. Who is number one enemy of everybody today?”


176 posted on 12/14/2011 10:22:40 PM PST by garjog
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To: JediJones

“They’re probably going to have to fall back on him being a “mean” conservative “

Good points all. They can’t say that he is stupid or made his money on Wall Street. So they will fall back on attacking his character as mean, uncaring, extreme and evil.

They will say that is is evil like the Grinch of Stole Christmas, while Obama is a kind, loving father who plays with his daughters and dog and lounges on the beach in Hawaii eating shaved ice.

Hopefully voters will be paying more attention to how Obama’s policies are destroying the economy and causing world wide collapse of western civilization than to Democrat campaign narratives.


177 posted on 12/14/2011 10:31:14 PM PST by garjog
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To: willk

Who gets the rest of the votes?


178 posted on 12/14/2011 10:31:59 PM PST by syriacus (Romney looks good in his Hallowe'en costume - dressed like a Conservative. TRICK OR TREAT?)
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To: iowamark

ginrich is under attack tea partiers as well. Gingrich is a socialist, central planner


179 posted on 12/14/2011 10:35:02 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: syriacus
49% (Obama) + 39% (Newt) = 88%.

Who gets the other 12%?

A third party candidate? We already know that the presence of a third party candidate could lead to an Obama victory, no matter which Republican runs.

180 posted on 12/14/2011 10:46:46 PM PST by syriacus (Romney looks good in his Hallowe'en costume - dressed like a Conservative. TRICK OR TREAT?)
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To: TexMom7

“That is why I am voting for Rick Perry come Hell or High Water.”

Better wear waders, and prepare for a long swim. Perry’s out.


181 posted on 12/14/2011 10:51:30 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Lakeshark

Afraid you have me confused with another poster. I never said I would not vote for Newt if he wins the nomination. I would. I just don’t think he has that innate toughness I want in a president. I think Perry has it.


182 posted on 12/14/2011 10:53:11 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: willk

Newt would get this woman’s vote because I believe the Republic is in danger. He won’t get the vote of women who prioritize watching E & the Lifetime Channel.

There is still a fair amount of social pressure on women to hide their intellect and confine their discourse to superficial topics. That was a fear in giving women the vote. And look what’s happened since we got it. My own mother has long supported Romney because he is handsome & is married to his first wife. She doesn’t inform herself about his positions.


183 posted on 12/14/2011 10:56:26 PM PST by Belle22
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To: Tribune7

I think you may be right. Newt is simply not very appealing, though his debate skills are great. And Calista may be a wonderful lady, but she is the most plastic looking woman.


184 posted on 12/14/2011 10:56:52 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: Sudetenland

“Ronald Reagan won that election 51% to Carters 41% and Anderson’s 7%.”

My first presidential election to vote in. I was such a fool then. Those early days, before Rush. Mind full of mush. I was one of the 7%. LOL.


185 posted on 12/14/2011 10:57:22 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: TexMom7

Worth repeating — again and again:

“To: SnuffaBolshevik
I will not vote for Obama or third party either.

But I have to stand on principle this time and will not hold my nose like I did when I voted for McCain.

I’m not looking for a smooth talker or smooth debater, I’m looking for a principled conservative who has a solid record.

That in my opinion is Perry.

Perry has been taking to Obama for 3 years already.
He has fought Obama (and Bush) on Stimulus, Tarp, Epa, Illegal Immigration and the list goes on.

If Perry wins nomination and goes against Obama, he will bring a huge contrast. Obama cannot debate without his teleprompter and is prone to gafts himself.

What will Perry tell Odumbo?

Perry will tell Obama he spent more (Texans) money and Texan manpower on the border than Obama did.

Perry will ask Obama why he ran guns to the Mexican Cartel.

Perry will tell him he created jobs while Obama lost jobs.

Perry will tell Obama he is Pro-Life and defunded Abortion Clinics in Texas.

Perry will tell Obama he got tort reform passed to help businesses hire more people.

Perry will tell Obama he cut taxes in Texas.

Perry will tell Obama he balanced the State budget.

Perry will tell Obama Obamacare was wrong and needs to be repealed.

Perry will tell Obama he supported Israel - Obama did not.
Perry has awards from Israel for defending Israel.

Perry will tell Obama he is stronger on the 10th Amendment.
Nobody and I mean nobody is stronger on the 10th Amendment than Perry.

Perry will tell Obama he is stronger on the 2nd Amendment.
Nobody and I mean nobody is a stronger supporter of the right to own guns than Perry. Nobody.

What’s Obama going to say? I’m a supporter of guns for the drug cartel???????????????

Perry has experience - Only Perry and Romney has experience in governing - you choose

Perry will confront Obama on job killing regulations.

Perry will tell Obama he cut spending in Texas.

Perry will remind Obama that he served in our military as a C-130 Pilot in the United States Air Force.

Obama will: I’m better because I uh uh um uh uh um uh uh um uh uh um uh I can work with foreign leaders?

Perry will remind Obama that he Rick Perry will NOT BOW DOWN TO ANYONE EXCEPT GOD.

YOU WILL NOT SEE PERRY APOLOGIZING FOR AMERICA EITHER!

Perry has had to deal with an international border that was suppose to be secured by the Federal Government on behalf of all the United States.

Perry has had to deal with Obama Administration that does nothing - except send troops to other countries.

Perry has had to deal with a United States Government that is corrupt and has committed treasonous crimes by running guns into Mexico to criminal drug cartels.

Perry has had to deal with a Supreme Court order that we educate illegals.

Perry has had to deal with a Homeland Security and ICE that will not punish violators, will not deport violators but instead puts them right back on the streets.

WHAT CANDIDATE has dealt with illegal immigration and with a border not secured by Obama?

WHAT CANDIDATE has fought tooth and nail with Obama for 3 years?

WHAT CANDIDATE has experience dealing with a 1200 mile border - they have not. They know nothing about it but
Perry does.

WHAT CANDIDATE has got laws passed to defund Abortion or made it mandatory that women get a sonogram before making that decision? Perry did. And now Obama is fighting back against Perry and Texas for doing so even while Planned Parenthood is closing down clinics here in Texas.

WHAT CANDIDATE got laws passed to require a Voter ID so that illegals cannot vote. Perry did. Now Obama and Holder are fighting Perry and Texas over this as well.

WHAT CANDIDATE created an environment that resulting in a better standard of living? Perry did.

WHAT CANDIDATE got tort reforms in place to get businesses back to hiring people? Perry did.

WHAT CANDIDATE lowered taxes, lowered regulations and fought against Obama regarding the EPA? Perry did.

WHAT CANDIDATE jumped in and helped Arizona in their fight against Obama? Perry did.

WHAT CANDIDATE put their constituents own money and manpower on the border to fight the drug wars? Perry did, Texans did and all the while Obama is running guns TO the cartel.

Perry takes crap from the Feds every day every week every month every year. And he still oversaw one of the best economies in the US.

WHAT CANDIDATE HAS BEEN HANDING OBAMA HIS ASS ALMOST DAILY?

RICK PERRY HAS.

That is why I am voting for Rick Perry come Hell or High Water.”

Couldn’t agree more.


186 posted on 12/14/2011 11:02:47 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: GlockThe Vote

That is complete “BS”

The women, inclusing many Liberal women voted for Clinton after all his female interactions....

Newt is by far more Conservative than Romney. Do people forget that it was Newt that actually balanced a budget, got Clinton to sign welfare reform. He was a very effective speaker despite some of his perceived failings...


187 posted on 12/14/2011 11:17:21 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: neverbluffer

I meant to say “including Conservative women”


188 posted on 12/14/2011 11:18:54 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: GlockThe Vote

Well, this woman sure as hell will...


189 posted on 12/14/2011 11:42:54 PM PST by tefis
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To: willk

Somehow I think that all these polls are propaganda polls, designed to give us the wisdom that voting for anyone but Romney will be disatrous for us. Any one else?


190 posted on 12/15/2011 12:10:28 AM PST by tinamina
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To: tinamina; All

Perry links himself to military, cites record
Published - Dec 15 2011 02:08AM EST

PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press

COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa (AP) — Every now and then, Rick Perry seems to stop campaigning for president. That’s when he talks about the men and women who have served in uniform — including himself.

“We’ve got a lot of heroes: young men and women that we’ve watched from afar, sometimes up close and personal,” the Texas governor said slowly during an otherwise fiery campaign speech to launch a thousand-mile bus tour here Wednesday. “Sometimes, it was your friends and family.”

Perry’s campaign is looking for a second wind with mere weeks to go until Iowa starts the Republican nominating process with its Jan. 3 caucuses. He is lagging in the polls and is working hard to recapture the fervor of his August entry into the race.

A refocused campaign speech plays up the uniform. Heading into Thursday’s debate in Sioux City, look for Perry to highlight his four years flying C-130s in the Air Force.

On Wednesday, Perry reminded Iowans of his military record.

“Growing up in Paint Creek, Texas, I learned some values — just like those of you that grew up in small towns in Iowa — hard work, faith, family were really important,” he said. “Serving your community, serving your state, serving your country. I’ll never be able to give back to this country what it has given to me. Part of my attempt to do that was serving in the United States Air Force.”

The crowd interrupted with applause.

“My purpose in life has never been to be the president of the United States,” Perry said. “My purpose in life has been to serve my country.”

From the beginning, Perry hoped military issues would help him. During a September speech at Liberty University, the nation’s largest evangelical school, he encouraged students to honor fallen military members by living a moral life.

“A great many of those who perished were approximately your age. Young men and women whose entire future was in front of them. They sacrificed their dreams to preserve yours,” Perry said. “Because of what they gave, I simply ask you to make the most of the freedom that they sacrificed.”

During the first days of his campaign, he all but cried when talking about a Navy SEAL killed in Afghanistan “so a guy like me can stand up on a soapbox at the Iowa State Fair and talk freely about freedom and liberty and America and that we are an exceptional country and we’re going to stay an exceptional country.”

Perry’s campaign is looking to tap into the pool of veterans — reliable, older voters who helped Sen. John McCain win the nomination in 2008 — and families of military members.

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is the only other military veteran seeking the presidential nomination. Paul was a flight surgeon in the Air Force and Air Force National Guard in the 1960s; Perry served in the 1970s.

If the GOP nominates anyone but Perry or Paul, it will be the first presidential campaign in 68 years to feature two candidates with no military record. President Barack Obama did not serve in uniform — a fact Perry once sought to exploit.

“The president had the opportunity to serve his country I’m sure, at some time, and he made the decision that that wasn’t what he wanted to do,” Perry told a Cedar Rapids crowd back in August.


191 posted on 12/15/2011 12:12:24 AM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: willk

Sounds just about right to me . Gangrich (sic) cannot beat Obozo .


192 posted on 12/15/2011 1:33:52 AM PST by sushiman
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To: TexMom7
Great- you must love Obama then My attitude is I would vote for my dog over Obama because at least when my dog licks his b*lls he does it with out creating a trillion dollar deficit and ramping up federal regulations. Any one that is a constitutional American would vote for ANY candidate other than Obama, yes Obama is that bad!
193 posted on 12/15/2011 1:54:57 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Hoodat
Ther is a difference between balancing a budget and running no deficits. I can create a spending plan (budget) that includes deficits. Gingrich forced Clinton to live with in his budget but the budget still included deficits!
194 posted on 12/15/2011 1:58:48 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: fantom
The GQ candidate? “Uh err, uhm, all ah 57 um states that uh err well hum my you see ..” yes that the ticket the GQ guy!
195 posted on 12/15/2011 2:04:48 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Dogbert41
I agree, gas is over double what it was when Obama was elected, inflation is eating into the grocery bill, being laid off is a real worry for many Americans, and as Clinton ton said “It's the economy stupid”. The Democrats and Obama can spin their vision of the economy any way they want but when it takes $200.00 To half fill a shopping cart Americans notice, Inflation is only going to increase no matter what Obama says because of the trillions of dollars he and the Democrats have dumped into the economy. Newt can make that argument. I support Cain, and Gingrich, but even if the slip is showing on the candidate that eventually wins I will vote for that person, even Huntsman because Obama is bent on destroying America and ANY ONE would be better! Even Jimahhy Carter..
196 posted on 12/15/2011 2:23:21 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Newt is a grenade waiting to explode.

Better that than a dud that won't do anything when the time comes.

197 posted on 12/15/2011 2:26:03 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: GlockThe Vote

B/S! I am surrounded by people that are “apolitical” and no one and I mean no one talks about Paul or Huntsman. As far as women not voting for Newt is B/S as well. This country is waking up to the fact that their husband’s won’t be able to retire and their children’s future looks very bad. This in my opinion is why Newt is rocketing. The country is scared and the person’s past doesn’t mean squat. We need someone that can get us out of this mess.


198 posted on 12/15/2011 2:50:16 AM PST by mmanager
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To: GlockThe Vote

I disagree, women would not support Bachmann. Bachmann is too sucessful, attractive and too heterosexual. But Bachmann is not ready for primetime.


199 posted on 12/15/2011 3:36:07 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: willk
This is crap.

National opinion polls continue to show Carter leading Reagan by an apparently comfortable margin of about 25%.


200 posted on 12/15/2011 4:46:12 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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