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House GOP proposes ‘lost confidence’ resolution on Attorney General Holder(barf alert)
thehill.com ^ | 13 December, 2011 | Jordy Yager

Posted on 12/16/2011 4:56:59 AM PST by marktwain

Nearly two-dozen Republicans are backing legislation stating that Congress “has lost confidence” in Eric Holder to continue as attorney general.

The resolution, introduced by Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and supported by 21 GOP co-sponsors, resolves “that it is the sense of the House of Representatives that Congress has lost confidence in the Attorney General of the United States.”

Gosar pointed to Holder’s role, as the head of the Justice Department, in overseeing a botched gun-tracking operation called Fast and Furious as the main reason for the diminished level of confidence.

He said he hopes the resolution would bring an added level of public awareness to the debate over whether Holder is fit to serve as the country’s top law enforcement officer.

“By filing this resolution, we are anticipating a debate on the House floor and a floor vote,” Gosar said in a news release. “This will bring needed inquiry, exposure and transparency to the issue itself.”

An aide on the House Judiciary Committee, where the resolution was referred to be marked up, said the panel did not have plans to consider the measure before the end of the year. It has not finalized its legislative schedule for next year, the aide said.

Republicans have been investigating and heavily scrutinizing Holder and the Obama administration over the operation for the majority of the year. Both Holder and Obama have said they did not authorize Fast and Furious and that they will hold those who did responsible.

Republicans said the operation — which oversaw the sale of about 2,000 weapons to known and suspected straw buyers for Mexican drug cartels — is indicative of an incompetent agency and that Holder must take responsibility for it because it occured under his watch.

“It is imperative that the citizens of our nation have confidence in our Attorney General,” Gosar said in the release. “After months of evasive answers, silence and outright lies, it is time that Congress speak up on behalf of the many people who have or will fall victims to the firearms in the flawed gunrunning operation Fast & Furious.”

The resolution is backed by Republican Reps. Trent Franks (Ariz.), David Schweikert (Ariz.), Jeff Duncan (S.C.), Connie Mack (Fla.), Paul Broun (Ga.), Lynn Jenkins (Kan.), Gus Bilirakis (Fla.), Kenny Marchant (Texas), Michael Grimm (N.Y.), Blake Farenthold (Texas), Renee Ellmers (N.C.), Jeff Landry (La.), Dan Burton (Ind.), Alan Nunnelee (Miss.), Francisco Canseco (Texas), Vicky Hartzler (Mo.), Bobby Schilling (Ill.), Steve Pearce (N.M.), Bill Johnson (Ohio), Walter Jones (N.C.) and Allen West (Fla.).

Holder came under fire last week before the Judiciary Committee over the operation, with Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) suggesting that impeachment charges could be brought against the attorney general if Republicans continue to feel as though the administration is blocking their attempts to get more information about the program.

Holder maintains that DOJ has complied with congressional subpoenas and requests for information as much as possible, citing several ongoing criminal cases involved with the operation and an independent investigation by the DOJ’s inspector general that has been under way for nine months.

One of the issues on which Republicans have focused their anger is a February letter from the DOJ to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), in which the agency stated that it did not let guns “walk” — willingly enter the hands of suspected criminals with no plan to intercept or repossess them.

Agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have testified, and documents uncovered by congressional investigators have revealed, that the operation did in fact let guns “walk,” a practice that began on a smaller scale in a separate operation during President George W. Bush’s administration.

In an unprecedented move, Holder turned over scores of internal DOJ emails to lawmakers earlier this month in an attempt to show that the agency was acting on information that it believed true. Holder has said repeatedly that DOJ officials did not intentionally mislead members of Congress.

According to the Daily Caller, 56 lawmakers have called for Holder’s resignation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama
The legislation is a good idea, but this article pushes the Obama administration line to the hilt, including the "blame Bush" meme and the idea that Fast and Furious was "botched".
1 posted on 12/16/2011 4:57:02 AM PST by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 4:57:31 AM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

The PROPER response is called “a bill of impeachment”.

Buncha wimps—RINOs.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 4:59:04 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: Flintlock
Your so right.

They don't have the Stones.

They huff and they puff..
and then they go wee wee wee all the way home.

4 posted on 12/16/2011 5:04:31 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: marktwain

Gutless wonders!

Holder should be hung by his nether parts for 24 hours in the city square, then hauled off to the worst jail in the country to spend the rest of his life.

That’s always IMHO, of course.


5 posted on 12/16/2011 5:09:33 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

Congress should impeach Eric Holdup, criminally convict him, and then hand him over to Sheriff Joe.


6 posted on 12/16/2011 5:12:13 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: marktwain; Liz; AT7Saluki

There might be something else brewing. Last night on his radio show, Todd Schnitt mentioned something about another gun smuggling operation out of Florida going to Central America. He said he would talk about it today once his info was put together. Stay tuned!


7 posted on 12/16/2011 5:12:18 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

No confidence? No just us, no peas.
INDICT the mutha brutha!

PING!


8 posted on 12/16/2011 5:20:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Libloather

That reminds me.....is anyone checking to see if there was any CIA involvement in this mess?


9 posted on 12/16/2011 5:22:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: Libloather

If it’s the Tampa thing, we already have it.


10 posted on 12/16/2011 5:22:40 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: mewzilla

Yes, and there was.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 5:23:32 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: mewzilla
Just ran across this from August.....

Was CIA behind Operation Fast & Furious?

12 posted on 12/16/2011 5:27:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: marktwain

And when did we switch to parliamentary government?


13 posted on 12/16/2011 5:27:31 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
‘zackly.
This resolution is meaningless.
14 posted on 12/16/2011 5:31:54 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MestaMachine
If it’s the Tampa thing, we already have it.

We do? What is the Tampa thing?

15 posted on 12/16/2011 5:35:57 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

Walking guns out of Tampa to Guatamala. Castaway.


16 posted on 12/16/2011 5:39:28 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Libloather
I was curious, too. An FR thread from this past summer....

Did Operation Fast and Furious have a Tampa twin, Operation Castaway?

17 posted on 12/16/2011 5:41:17 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: MestaMachine
No confidence? No just us, no peas. INDICT...

That would first take courage, and second it would open a can of worms where holder could start letting secrets out of the bag. Remember when Congress was investigating barney frank and he threatened to revel the names of homo members of Congress? All of a sudden a slap on the limp wrist.

No my friend, Congress will do nothing but rattle their swords. Just as they will never make it illegal for members of Congress to sue their insider info for gain, neither will they ever take the risk of showing their soft and corrupt underbelly.

Keep up the good work, your information is invaluable to many of us, or at the very least me.

18 posted on 12/16/2011 6:02:15 AM PST by JakeS (This would be a good time to read John chapter three 1-21)
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To: Flintlock
“a bill of impeachment”.

I agree with you. If you're gunna do it, do it.

Reminds me of a neighbor that would come to my house about every 6 months and tell me he was going to sue me. I finally told him to go ahead and sue me but quit coming over and talking about it.

19 posted on 12/16/2011 6:11:05 AM PST by super7man
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To: mewzilla; MestaMachine
Found this - Media Matters - Fox Fails To Fact Check On Operation Castaway

Crumpler, 64, was a key player in a major international gun smuggling network. It was taken down by the Tampa Field Division of the ATF with Operation Castaway, a six-month investigation that federal prosecutors called "the most significant firearms trafficking investigation in Central Florida history."

Nothing in the more than 500 pages of Operation Castaway court documents, which are public records, indicate anything other than a textbook operation culminating in the interdiction of a large shipment of firearms bound for Honduras. Eight traffickers including Crumpler were convicted and sentenced to between two and a half and seven years in federal prison.

Despite this winning outcome, Operation Castaway is under attack from right-wing bloggers and Fox. These critics are disregarding basic standards of fact checking in their rush to link the Tampa investigation to Operation Fast and Furious, the failed ATF initiative in which agents knowingly allowed firearms to be trafficked across the border into Mexico.

20 posted on 12/16/2011 6:20:19 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: marktwain

This confirms my darkest fears.

Their near-death experience with the Clinton impeachment had permanently scared the Pubbies away from ever proposing to impeach ANYONE again. It will never, ever, ever, ever happen again in any of our lifetimes. Corrupt Dems now have a license to do whatever they please.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 6:29:15 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Libloather; marktwain; Nachum

That is media matters and they are full of sh!t. There were guns walked AFTER the op was supposed to be over. No one knows who got them or how many. I have to go way back to find the articles, but media matters? Are you kidding me?

Mark Twain or Nachum, do either of you have the original Castaway articles?


22 posted on 12/16/2011 6:45:29 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

I think this is the original. Their are several later articles:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/07/breaking-news-source-claims-atfs-tampa.html


23 posted on 12/16/2011 6:55:25 AM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
This resolution is meaningless.

No, it is not. It forces the Congresscritters to go on the record on this matter. It gives us a clear indication of who is with us and against us when the next election comes up.

24 posted on 12/16/2011 6:57:21 AM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Libloather; marktwain

Thank you. Found more. Honduras, not Guatemala. So much stuff. So little time.

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/breaking-news-source-claims-atf-s-tampa-sac-walked-guns-to-honduras

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/07/honduras-why-would-atf-walk-guns-to.html


25 posted on 12/16/2011 7:10:35 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: marktwain

If any of these whimps weren’t whimps they’d file impeachment charges, not a resolution.


26 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:59 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: marktwain

They should use the phrase “strenuously object” in the resolution to show how serious they are.

If they really mean business they should make sure the words are in bold print.

If that doesn’t work they should try to get Barney Frank to slap Holder with his glove.


27 posted on 12/16/2011 7:58:45 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: marktwain

Holder’s still in office.
Congresscritters can pass all the resolutions they want to.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 8:03:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Libloather
If it’s the Tampa thing, we already have it.

We do? What is the Tampa thing?

Tampa Armored Police Vehicle


29 posted on 12/16/2011 8:07:18 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Libloather

Operation Castaway or a different one?


30 posted on 12/16/2011 12:51:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mewzilla
There is this...

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

(snip)

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

31 posted on 12/16/2011 12:53:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks much!


32 posted on 12/16/2011 1:00:22 PM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: mewzilla
Here is another Castaway thread from last summer.

Breaking News: Tampa SAC 'in full meltdown...shredders are buzzing' (Gunwalker)

33 posted on 12/16/2011 1:01:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mewzilla
You're welcome. I'm not sure but I think anything the State Dept. does like that would use the CIA and vice versa; when the CIA is transferring arms to foreign countries the State Dept. would have to sign off on it. I'm sure there are exceptions to the latter where the CIA isn't telling anyone what it's doing.

One thing is certain; Hillary owns everything the State Dept. does. I'll bet my money that she's the mastermind of all of this.

34 posted on 12/16/2011 1:07:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: super7man
I finally told him to go ahead and sue me but quit coming over and talking about it

What would Tuco say?

35 posted on 12/16/2011 10:20:58 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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