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Congress overturns incandescent light bulb ban
The Washington Times ^ | December 16, 2011 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 12/16/2011 5:30:52 AM PST by markomalley

Congressional negotiators struck a deal Thursday that overturns the new rules that were to have banned sales of traditional incandescent light bulbs beginning next year.

That agreement is tucked inside the massive 1,200-page spending bill that funds the government through the rest of this fiscal year, and which both houses of Congress will vote on Friday. Mr. Obama is expected to sign the bill, which heads off a looming government shutdown.

Congressional Republicans dropped almost all of the policy restrictions they tried to attach to the bill, but won inclusion of the light bulb provision, which prevents the Obama administration from carrying through a 2007 law that would have set energy efficiency standards that effectively made the traditional light bulb obsolete.

The bill doesn’t actually amend the 2007 law, but does prohibit the administration from spending any money to carry out the light bulb standards — which amounts to at least a temporary reprieve.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; bho44; envirowhackos; lightbulb; lightbulbs; nannystate; planetgore
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To: markomalley

Thanks, Guys. Now that I have a 20 year supply tucked into my attic...


61 posted on 12/16/2011 6:23:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vaquero
“the electrician when I got my new kitchen insisted that Halogen bulbs were the way to go for the high hats.’

We avoid halogen lights for exactly the reasons you stated. The LED lights we installed were under the cabinets on both sides of the kitchen. We still use old fashioned incandescent spot lights that are recessed in the ceiling. We avoid CFLs because, to us, most of them give off an annoying, unnatural light. As the price of LEDs come down, I think they will dominate CFLs in most applications.

62 posted on 12/16/2011 6:23:31 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: miss marmelstein; xzins; wmfights
Now I have 12 years of 100 watts stored in my garage for no good reason! Grrrr....I hate government!

Nobody else is going to have them. Nobody is going to be manufacturing 100 watt bulbs again because they are STILL ILLEGAL TO MAKE OR SELL. This provision only prevents the justice department of the United States from prosecuting anyone for selling them.

The good news is that you can sell them to your friends without fear of prosecution. But you are still breaking the law.

Isn't this what the administration is doing about illegal aliens? They are here illegally, but the administration is not spending any money prosecuting them.

63 posted on 12/16/2011 6:25:07 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
If they are still illegal to sell, then where are you going to buy them?

Flea markets, little hole-in-the-wall thrift shops. The guys on the corner who used to sell crack, until untaxed cigarettes and light bulbs became a more lucrative business model.
64 posted on 12/16/2011 6:25:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vaquero

I’m with you. I don’t understand all the people who profess to have aesthetic objections to the squiggly bulbs. After all, a bare Edison bulb is not exactly a thing of beauty. Not to mention the fact that they’re almost all under lampshades or concealed within fixtures anyhow.

Maybe there’s a survivalist aesthetic of which I am unaware. Some people sound like they live in bunkers, sit on ammo crates, and consider a bare Edison bulb dangling down on an exposed wire to be an essential part of the decor. Idaho chic, I suppose.

I converted to the squiggly bulbs long ago. They do save an electricity, but mainly I like not having to run to the store to replace them.


65 posted on 12/16/2011 6:33:03 AM PST by sphinx
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To: markomalley

In Panama, our Philips light bulbs are made in India and are distributed to Costa Rica, Mexico, and Venezuela who redistribute them throughout Latin America.

No shortage of 100 watts here.


66 posted on 12/16/2011 6:36:30 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (")
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To: basil; txhurl

Well, the wife just just bought another 2 / 12 packs on Wednesday. Guess I’ll just have to put them into my stock of incandescent light bulbs we already have horded.


67 posted on 12/16/2011 6:39:38 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: markomalley
I hope everybody fully appreciates how much this would-be ban has cost the American public. The idiots in Washington ban incandescent light bulbs, even though millions of people REQUIRE these bulbs. (I happen to have dimmers on most of my light switches. The CF bulbs don't work with dimmers.)Of course, no suppliers buy the bulbs, so then the manufacturing lines are shut down, and then probably dismantled.

Suddenly, two weeks before the ban becomes effective, the WIs (Washington Idiots) "see the light", and end the ban. Except, now there are few bulbs in the stores, and no manufacturing capacity to handle the demand.

68 posted on 12/16/2011 6:50:43 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Arrowhead1952

On all my shopping lists scattered around my house and truck is LIGHT BULBS in inch-high letters circles several times.


69 posted on 12/16/2011 6:52:27 AM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: DManA
The industry is probably already destroyed.

I think the industry is just transferred to another country.

Most of the incandescent bulbs I've bought in the last few years were made in Mexico.

70 posted on 12/16/2011 6:54:17 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Yulee

I really wonder how long those will last. I’ve had LED Christmas light fail also.


These are showing up brand new at Goodwill, evidence of what you say.


71 posted on 12/16/2011 6:54:39 AM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: markomalley

Good news but big deal.They could have stopped all of the ponzi scheme insider trading with they’re fake bill but they didn’t because they would lose money.So they are appeasing us giving us back our old light bulbs when they probably had stock in them when people were buying them up like mad in dollar generals when it was thought they would be banned.


72 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:24 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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All the preppers with stocks of light bulbs just lost money and probably have a pile of short lifetime bulbs.


73 posted on 12/16/2011 6:57:12 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: markomalley

Practically speaking what does this mean? We can import them next year?


74 posted on 12/16/2011 6:59:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST pick the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: markomalley

It actually will make no difference.

First, the law has already existed, and manufacturers and stores have already made provisions to meet the law, which takes effect in about 2 weeks. They aren’t going to be able to change their decisions on manufacturing now, or do new orders to replenish stocks.

Second, since the law has not been repealed, stores aren’t likely to take any chances in ramping back up the sales, knowing first that the Obama administration is notorious for ignoring laws, and second that the law could change at any time, since it’s just a matter of funding.

Third, if Obama decides to spend money enforcing the law, courts will allow the law to BE enforced. There could be a separate lawsuit against the administration for misappropriation of funds, but the law itself is still in force, and can still therefore be invoked. There also might not be anything to stop environmental groups from filing lawsuits against companies who are violating the law — I’d have to read the actual legislation to know whether this would be possible.

It is clear however that Obama’s big thing with this bill was to make sure the republicans couldn’t put anything in the bill that would actually help the economy. Obama can’t have republicans fixing the economy since Obama has failed.


75 posted on 12/16/2011 7:03:00 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: markomalley

The headline is misleading. 100 watt bulbs are still illegal. Undocumented workers are illegal as well. All this bill does is to stop the enforcement of the law.

So if you own a 100 watt bulb you will be an “illegal bulb owner”. But the government will not enforce the law.

So now you can hire an illegal alien to install your illegal light bulb and nobody is going to go to jail.

Cool, huh?


76 posted on 12/16/2011 7:03:24 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: norwaypinesavage

The 40-watt equivalent LED I bought yesterday is dimmable.

The market is moving very quickly. Real-time, prices are falling so fast you can see it happen.

All this bureaucratic crap will be moot, faster than many realize.


77 posted on 12/16/2011 7:04:38 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: miss marmelstein
Now I have 12 years of 100 watts stored in my garage for no good reason! Grrrr....I hate government!

Do not grind your teeth yet.

The politicians waited so long I think most manufacturers not only quite making them (or went out of business) but already sold or destroyed their equipment.

They are now so heavily invested in production of the crap bulbs they have no choice but to push the consumer to change over to the new garbage.

I fully think the politicians did this on purpose so they could force us to do what they really want but politically use this all too late amendment to show us they are on our side.

78 posted on 12/16/2011 7:05:59 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

They really don’t care that you can use a LED for the same price, in fact, they’ll probably go after that soon on some trumped up environmental reason.

The point is to have you shivering in the dark and under their control.


79 posted on 12/16/2011 7:09:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes agreed.

It was entirely pointless, and unconstitutional and stupid for a Republican president to have signed this.

The market is solving the issue. This so illustrates the principle of RINO.

“Compassion” is not a word meaning stupid laws and ever bigger, more dictatorial government.


80 posted on 12/16/2011 7:13:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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