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Congress overturns incandescent light bulb ban
The Washington Times ^ | December 16, 2011 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 12/16/2011 5:30:52 AM PST by markomalley

Congressional negotiators struck a deal Thursday that overturns the new rules that were to have banned sales of traditional incandescent light bulbs beginning next year.

That agreement is tucked inside the massive 1,200-page spending bill that funds the government through the rest of this fiscal year, and which both houses of Congress will vote on Friday. Mr. Obama is expected to sign the bill, which heads off a looming government shutdown.

Congressional Republicans dropped almost all of the policy restrictions they tried to attach to the bill, but won inclusion of the light bulb provision, which prevents the Obama administration from carrying through a 2007 law that would have set energy efficiency standards that effectively made the traditional light bulb obsolete.

The bill doesn’t actually amend the 2007 law, but does prohibit the administration from spending any money to carry out the light bulb standards — which amounts to at least a temporary reprieve.

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KEYWORDS: 112th; bho44; envirowhackos; lightbulb; lightbulbs; nannystate; planetgore
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To: Condor51
Heck, I don't even know what a 1st Class Stamp costs today, nor do I care as I'm set.

Until the U.S.P.S. goes out of business and Fedex won't accept your stamps.

51 posted on 12/16/2011 6:10:53 AM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: miss marmelstein

eBay will be your friend, friend


52 posted on 12/16/2011 6:11:35 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: muawiyah

LED is the way to go...


53 posted on 12/16/2011 6:13:51 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Vaquero
I've had two or three of these go out in the last year. Thank goodness that the ban is going to be repealed.

The LED bulbs are very expensive, and will be the next push by the Left. I really wonder how long those will last. I've had LED Christmas light fail also.

54 posted on 12/16/2011 6:14:46 AM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: markomalley

YEAH!
The DUMBEST f’ing idea that has come out of congress in a century.

And it only cost 50-65,000 US manufacturing jobs.


55 posted on 12/16/2011 6:15:52 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: markomalley

Thank You Jesus. Finally, a glint of sanity.


56 posted on 12/16/2011 6:16:24 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: G Larry

“Who knows when G.E. stopped making them?”

The last US GE light bulb factory in Winchester, Virginia shut down about a year ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/07/AR2010090706933.html

200 American jobs lost. No doubt if stores start carrying the bulbs again they will be imported from Mexico or China. Thanks Congress.


57 posted on 12/16/2011 6:18:09 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Yulee

I just bought a boat trailer it was a year old...of the 15-20 or so little leds that make up each unit, at least 4-6 lights are out on each.

I do have under-counter light bulbs that are led and they have worked now for 2+ years.


58 posted on 12/16/2011 6:19:28 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Condor51

Those 100 watt bulbs would look great as string of Christmas lights on the outside of a house. ;-)


59 posted on 12/16/2011 6:19:33 AM PST by almost done by half
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To: markomalley; xzins; wmfights
The bill doesn’t actually amend the 2007 law, but does prohibit the administration from spending any money to carry out the light bulb standards — which amounts to at least a temporary reprieve.

If they are still illegal to sell, then where are you going to buy them? No retailer is going to sell them even if the law is not enforced and no manufacturer is going to make them if they are technically illegal.

This provision does NOTHING!

Piss on these wimps in Congress. REPEAL the law!!

60 posted on 12/16/2011 6:20:46 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: markomalley

Thanks, Guys. Now that I have a 20 year supply tucked into my attic...


61 posted on 12/16/2011 6:23:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vaquero
“the electrician when I got my new kitchen insisted that Halogen bulbs were the way to go for the high hats.’

We avoid halogen lights for exactly the reasons you stated. The LED lights we installed were under the cabinets on both sides of the kitchen. We still use old fashioned incandescent spot lights that are recessed in the ceiling. We avoid CFLs because, to us, most of them give off an annoying, unnatural light. As the price of LEDs come down, I think they will dominate CFLs in most applications.

62 posted on 12/16/2011 6:23:31 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: miss marmelstein; xzins; wmfights
Now I have 12 years of 100 watts stored in my garage for no good reason! Grrrr....I hate government!

Nobody else is going to have them. Nobody is going to be manufacturing 100 watt bulbs again because they are STILL ILLEGAL TO MAKE OR SELL. This provision only prevents the justice department of the United States from prosecuting anyone for selling them.

The good news is that you can sell them to your friends without fear of prosecution. But you are still breaking the law.

Isn't this what the administration is doing about illegal aliens? They are here illegally, but the administration is not spending any money prosecuting them.

63 posted on 12/16/2011 6:25:07 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
If they are still illegal to sell, then where are you going to buy them?

Flea markets, little hole-in-the-wall thrift shops. The guys on the corner who used to sell crack, until untaxed cigarettes and light bulbs became a more lucrative business model.
64 posted on 12/16/2011 6:25:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vaquero

I’m with you. I don’t understand all the people who profess to have aesthetic objections to the squiggly bulbs. After all, a bare Edison bulb is not exactly a thing of beauty. Not to mention the fact that they’re almost all under lampshades or concealed within fixtures anyhow.

Maybe there’s a survivalist aesthetic of which I am unaware. Some people sound like they live in bunkers, sit on ammo crates, and consider a bare Edison bulb dangling down on an exposed wire to be an essential part of the decor. Idaho chic, I suppose.

I converted to the squiggly bulbs long ago. They do save an electricity, but mainly I like not having to run to the store to replace them.


65 posted on 12/16/2011 6:33:03 AM PST by sphinx
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To: markomalley

In Panama, our Philips light bulbs are made in India and are distributed to Costa Rica, Mexico, and Venezuela who redistribute them throughout Latin America.

No shortage of 100 watts here.


66 posted on 12/16/2011 6:36:30 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (")
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To: basil; txhurl

Well, the wife just just bought another 2 / 12 packs on Wednesday. Guess I’ll just have to put them into my stock of incandescent light bulbs we already have horded.


67 posted on 12/16/2011 6:39:38 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: markomalley
I hope everybody fully appreciates how much this would-be ban has cost the American public. The idiots in Washington ban incandescent light bulbs, even though millions of people REQUIRE these bulbs. (I happen to have dimmers on most of my light switches. The CF bulbs don't work with dimmers.)Of course, no suppliers buy the bulbs, so then the manufacturing lines are shut down, and then probably dismantled.

Suddenly, two weeks before the ban becomes effective, the WIs (Washington Idiots) "see the light", and end the ban. Except, now there are few bulbs in the stores, and no manufacturing capacity to handle the demand.

68 posted on 12/16/2011 6:50:43 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Arrowhead1952

On all my shopping lists scattered around my house and truck is LIGHT BULBS in inch-high letters circles several times.


69 posted on 12/16/2011 6:52:27 AM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: DManA
The industry is probably already destroyed.

I think the industry is just transferred to another country.

Most of the incandescent bulbs I've bought in the last few years were made in Mexico.

70 posted on 12/16/2011 6:54:17 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Yulee

I really wonder how long those will last. I’ve had LED Christmas light fail also.


These are showing up brand new at Goodwill, evidence of what you say.


71 posted on 12/16/2011 6:54:39 AM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: markomalley

Good news but big deal.They could have stopped all of the ponzi scheme insider trading with they’re fake bill but they didn’t because they would lose money.So they are appeasing us giving us back our old light bulbs when they probably had stock in them when people were buying them up like mad in dollar generals when it was thought they would be banned.


72 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:24 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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All the preppers with stocks of light bulbs just lost money and probably have a pile of short lifetime bulbs.


73 posted on 12/16/2011 6:57:12 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: markomalley

Practically speaking what does this mean? We can import them next year?


74 posted on 12/16/2011 6:59:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST pick the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: markomalley

It actually will make no difference.

First, the law has already existed, and manufacturers and stores have already made provisions to meet the law, which takes effect in about 2 weeks. They aren’t going to be able to change their decisions on manufacturing now, or do new orders to replenish stocks.

Second, since the law has not been repealed, stores aren’t likely to take any chances in ramping back up the sales, knowing first that the Obama administration is notorious for ignoring laws, and second that the law could change at any time, since it’s just a matter of funding.

Third, if Obama decides to spend money enforcing the law, courts will allow the law to BE enforced. There could be a separate lawsuit against the administration for misappropriation of funds, but the law itself is still in force, and can still therefore be invoked. There also might not be anything to stop environmental groups from filing lawsuits against companies who are violating the law — I’d have to read the actual legislation to know whether this would be possible.

It is clear however that Obama’s big thing with this bill was to make sure the republicans couldn’t put anything in the bill that would actually help the economy. Obama can’t have republicans fixing the economy since Obama has failed.


75 posted on 12/16/2011 7:03:00 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: markomalley

The headline is misleading. 100 watt bulbs are still illegal. Undocumented workers are illegal as well. All this bill does is to stop the enforcement of the law.

So if you own a 100 watt bulb you will be an “illegal bulb owner”. But the government will not enforce the law.

So now you can hire an illegal alien to install your illegal light bulb and nobody is going to go to jail.

Cool, huh?


76 posted on 12/16/2011 7:03:24 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: norwaypinesavage

The 40-watt equivalent LED I bought yesterday is dimmable.

The market is moving very quickly. Real-time, prices are falling so fast you can see it happen.

All this bureaucratic crap will be moot, faster than many realize.


77 posted on 12/16/2011 7:04:38 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: miss marmelstein
Now I have 12 years of 100 watts stored in my garage for no good reason! Grrrr....I hate government!

Do not grind your teeth yet.

The politicians waited so long I think most manufacturers not only quite making them (or went out of business) but already sold or destroyed their equipment.

They are now so heavily invested in production of the crap bulbs they have no choice but to push the consumer to change over to the new garbage.

I fully think the politicians did this on purpose so they could force us to do what they really want but politically use this all too late amendment to show us they are on our side.

78 posted on 12/16/2011 7:05:59 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

They really don’t care that you can use a LED for the same price, in fact, they’ll probably go after that soon on some trumped up environmental reason.

The point is to have you shivering in the dark and under their control.


79 posted on 12/16/2011 7:09:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes agreed.

It was entirely pointless, and unconstitutional and stupid for a Republican president to have signed this.

The market is solving the issue. This so illustrates the principle of RINO.

“Compassion” is not a word meaning stupid laws and ever bigger, more dictatorial government.


80 posted on 12/16/2011 7:13:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: apillar

Maybe this is a good thing — you can now effectively sell them legally, and it’s not like GE is going to re-open their plants or Lowes is suddenly going to find a new stock of light bulbs to sell.


81 posted on 12/16/2011 7:13:43 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MrB
NPelosi-a11

Click to watch or download Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda do Republican vs Democrat!

82 posted on 12/16/2011 7:13:59 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: muawiyah

I’m with you.


83 posted on 12/16/2011 7:16:31 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE 'ECONOMIC FREEDOM'! NO more 0bamao!)
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To: markomalley
A simple energy savings technique we should use on Congress:

OFF!

84 posted on 12/16/2011 7:26:20 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: digger48

Yes, but dumbass Bush signed it.


85 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:25 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: oh8eleven
What about the enviro-whacko toilets you have to flush five times?

Fortunately, almost any plumber can do an over-ride and restore "Big Gulp" status....

86 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:59 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: G Larry

I know of at least one GE plant that has already shut down. So, now I guess Mexico can make them and export them to us. Makes sense to America haters.


87 posted on 12/16/2011 7:38:30 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: markomalley
Bulbs Guy

*sigh of relief*

88 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:25 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Condor51

A 1st Class stamp is 44 cents now, as are all current “forever” stamps. But they are going up again in February. So, every time I go to the P.O., I buy a couple hundred more stamps.

I have to hurry up and use up last year’s Christmas stamps (the angel with the lute), because they were NOT “forever”. My husband was hospsitalized last Christmas, and I never got the cards out.


89 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:38 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: markomalley

I would still buy the rough service 60, 75 and 100 watt bulbs anyway. If people had to use emergency generators these lamps are more reliable than the supposed 5 year CFL ones.


90 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:16 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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To: txhurl

We have a shelf in the garage and outdoor storage shed that have nothing BUT incandescent light bulbs. Everything from 40 - 100 watt, plus the small base night light bulbs.


91 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:57 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: markomalley; Berlin_Freeper; Genesis defender; golux; proud_yank; Bockscar; grey_whiskers; ...
A random act of sanity.

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

92 posted on 12/16/2011 7:44:50 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: MrB
What $2 CFL? Try $6. For one.

When I stocked up, I made sure I avoided GE bulbs. They burn out after 2 months on my patio anyway. I went with Philips or the Target brand. I'd rather buy from China or Amsterdam before GE.

93 posted on 12/16/2011 7:45:23 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: sphinx
I converted to the squiggly bulbs long ago. They do save an electricity, but mainly I like not having to run to the store to replace them.

But you have to run to the store to dispose of them at county and state funded hazardous material disposal sites, which is an unmentioned very expensive additional cost of this product that taxpayers are forced to fund. Its a trickle down tax on everybody.

If you're not disposing of them at these sites you're polluting our ground water with mercury. And if one breaks on your carpet, you are supposed to bring in a hazmat team to remove it and dispose of it for you.

Which one is it?
94 posted on 12/16/2011 7:46:56 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: markomalley
"That agreement is tucked inside the massive 1,200-page spending bill..."

It would have been better if those who originally proposed the ban were tarred and feathered and driven out of town....in stead, threatening their votes the EPA brow beat limp backed congressmen to enact this stupid Mercury laced curly light bulb bill, now expensively being dismantled....why didn't these bright lawmen stand up and refuse as one voice to do something so stupid. At least and at last someone is doing something and for that I am grateful.

95 posted on 12/16/2011 7:54:10 AM PST by yoe
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To: hedgetrimmer
Have you seen these pics of the foot necrosis that the internet claims were caused by stepping on a broken CFL bulb? Don't click on it if you're queasy... http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=71917

Interesting to note that this is posted to the Snopes message board, but when I searched for the Snopes article, I couldn't find it. Anyone know if these pics are legit?

96 posted on 12/16/2011 8:00:52 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: muawiyah

“So, 200 lightbulbs are saved”

Not really. Because of this mess the company who made these light bulbs closed it’s doors forever this year. Never mind that it had been in operation since the time of Edison.


97 posted on 12/16/2011 8:02:29 AM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: riverdawg
but they give off great, natural-looking light,

Really? I like LED's in my high-power flashlights, but I've never seen one with light I'd like to read by. OTOH, I haven't gone shopping in a long time. It'd be really cool if LEDs could give me light with some decent warmth to it.

98 posted on 12/16/2011 8:05:41 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: markomalley; All

Thank you Republicans for saving some of our freedom:

Republicans dropped almost all of the policy restrictions they tried to attach to the bill, but won inclusion of the light bulb provision, which prevents the Obama administration from carrying through a 2007 law that would have set energy efficiency standards that effectively made the traditional light bulb obsolete


99 posted on 12/16/2011 8:12:16 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: markomalley

I will NOT use those mercury filled pieces of crap!

I will burn candles first.

Where there is a demand, there will be a supply.


100 posted on 12/16/2011 8:28:23 AM PST by Safrguns
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