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Rush Limbaugh: "Ron Paul puts on the Tinfoil Hat"
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 16 Dec 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 12/16/2011 3:18:22 PM PST by seanmerc

Here is Ron Paul in the debate last night. This is Bret Baier. [SNIP] Bret Baier: "Congressman Paul, many Middle East experts now say that Iran may be less than one year away from getting a nuclear weapon. Now, judging from your past statements, even if you had solid intelligence that Iran, in fact, was going to get a nuclear weapon, President Paul would remove the US sanctions on Iran, including those added by the Obama administration. So to be clear: GOP nominee Ron Paul would be running left of President Obama on the issue of Iran?"

PAUL: You know what I really fear about what's happening here? It's another Iraq coming! It is war propaganda going on, and we're arguing... To me the greatest danger is that we will have a president that will overreact, and we will soon bomb Iran -- and -- and the sentiment is very mixed. We ought to really sit back and think and not jump the gun and believe that we are going to be attacked. That's how we got into that useless war in Iraq and lost so much in Iraq.

RUSH: Now, you may have astutely noticed that Ron Paul didn't answer the question. So Bret Baier, after the applause died down, said, "Congressman Paul, the question was based on the premise that you actually had solid intelligence as President Paul" that they got a nuke. We're not talking about being on the come. "I'm asking you about solid evidence they've got one, and yet you still at that point would pull back US sanctions -- and, again, as a GOP nominee, be running to the left of Barack Obama on this issue?"

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Why does anyone take Ron Paul seriously?
1 posted on 12/16/2011 3:18:32 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Good question.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 3:21:42 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: seanmerc

Maha Rushie is the greatest; however, I can’t get on anymore — try as I might.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 3:22:07 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: seanmerc
Why does anyone take Ron Paul seriously?

I ask this all the time.

Bachman nailed it last night - the most dangerous and uninformed foreign policy ever conceived since Neville Chamberlain.

4 posted on 12/16/2011 3:22:56 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Yes, Rush thought that Bachmann got back into the mix with her performance in the debate last night.


5 posted on 12/16/2011 3:23:57 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Ron Paul is my choice.
6 posted on 12/16/2011 3:24:46 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: seanmerc

I don’t get it either. He is certifiable.


7 posted on 12/16/2011 3:27:36 PM PST by marty60
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To: seanmerc

Just when one begins to take him seriously he pulls out his ‘Prison Planet’ lifetime membership card and Illuminati decoder ring and grins like he’s listening to angels.


8 posted on 12/16/2011 3:28:48 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: seanmerc

She also looked amazing.

But back on topic - Paul is the new LaRouche. He’s crazy, and his supporters are both fanatical and insane.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 3:29:37 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: FatherofFive

While I’m certainly not wanting a war with Iran, its nuts to think that there is no problem there. I just don’t know what needs to be done about them aside from nuking them first.

Anybody who thinks a war between Iran and Israel would stay between the two is an idiot. Its like saying that Hitler’s war was none of our business.


10 posted on 12/16/2011 3:29:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: seanmerc

I agree. Bachmann did good last night. I think she will be rising again.

-Fred


11 posted on 12/16/2011 3:30:28 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Maelstorm

I just looked him up on Wikipedia. I didn’t realize that he’s 76 years old. Wonder how come the media hasn’t dwelled on that like they did with Ronald Reagan.


12 posted on 12/16/2011 3:31:26 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Just curious were any WMD’s actually found in Iraq? Do we really have iron clad intelligence coimg out of Iran?


14 posted on 12/16/2011 3:35:43 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: seanmerc
Why does anyone take Ron Paul seriously?

The only ones who do are paulbots. They can not think for themselves. They can only follow their master.
15 posted on 12/16/2011 3:39:46 PM PST by John D
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To: seanmerc

Sane people have known for a long time that Ron Paul is loopy and shouldn’t be taken seriously. What bugs me is that the guy has so much support. According to polls, Ron Paul is in the ‘top tier’ of the GOP presidential nomination candidates. That’s ridiculous! I suspect that when actual votes are cast, Ron Paul won’t do so well. His statements on the Fox News debate (good moderators) should end the fantasy that this man is a serious person, except, perhaps, in his own mind. Frankly, Ron Paul is just taking votes away from genuine candidates that, whether you support them or not, are at least rational about the very real threat to Israel, the U.S. and the world from a nuclear Iran.


16 posted on 12/16/2011 3:41:08 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: seanmerc
Why does anyone take Ron Paul seriously?

Because at least one third of Americans are idiots and have brain nerve damage that cannot be repaired.

17 posted on 12/16/2011 3:49:44 PM PST by Logical me
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To: seanmerc

18 posted on 12/16/2011 3:50:06 PM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Maelstorm

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

That’s beautiful....


19 posted on 12/16/2011 3:50:30 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Just curious were any WMD’s actually found in Iraq?

I could not find my golf ball the other day when I hit it in the woods. I guess it must have never gone in if I could not find it.
20 posted on 12/16/2011 3:52:03 PM PST by John D
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Yes.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgNbw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/wikileaks_proves_wmd_found_in.html
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/scud_info/scud_info_refs/n41en172/iraq.htm
http://www.ice-news.net/2010/11/22/whats-this-did-we-actually-find-wmds-in-iraq/
Just to link to a few.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 3:54:19 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: seanmerc

GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU ZIONIST NEOCON!!!

22 posted on 12/16/2011 3:55:53 PM PST by montag813
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To: seanmerc; All

LOL On ‘The Five’ today, Gutsfeld (sp) remarked when talking about Paul in the debate last night, ‘Paul was his usual self. Never fails to say something that makes sense followed by something stupid. It’s like ordering steak topped by necco wafers.


23 posted on 12/16/2011 3:56:38 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Jim Scott

I actually think he has support because people do not know who he really is. It’s like they are projecting who they think he is, without even listing to him or reading his words.
I have had conversations with these supporters, showed them links to his own words, and they refuse to beleive he actually said what is right in front of them. So weird.


24 posted on 12/16/2011 3:57:58 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: seanmerc

When Paul started to response to Bachmann I thought he was going CAPTAIN QUIGG for a minute. I was expecting him to reach into his pocket any second for the steel balls.


25 posted on 12/16/2011 4:04:54 PM PST by spawn44 (NSWWER)
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To: svcw

Not really...they are just reliving their Ross Perot days....


26 posted on 12/16/2011 4:06:24 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: flintsilver7

Here’s the scary part: the Paulbots may have the best ground game in Iowa, and that’s critical to winning the caucuses. Frank Luntz was on Hannity this afternoon; he’s been part of more than a few political campaigns and said he was “stunned” at Paul’s level of organization, which will generate a big turnout at the caucuses. In fact, Luntz said he expects Paul to rise in the Iowa polls (contrary to what most pundits are saying) and might even win the caucuses next month.

Don’t get me wrong; the winner in Iowa is almost never the GOP nominee, and Paul’s chances of winning the nomination are approximately zero. But it’s a sideshow the GOP doesn’t need, and it it means the eventual nominee will have to spend more time and effort beating back the lunatic fringe in his own party—not that I believe many of Paul’s volunteers are actually Republicans or conservatives.


27 posted on 12/16/2011 4:07:32 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: seanmerc

Because the media loves the sideshow...to them, there’s nothing more entertaining than a GOP presidential candidate running to the left of Obama on foreign policy. They will gladly include Paul as long as he keeps running, even if he’s 80, 84, 88 or even 110. From their perspective, there’s no way Paul could be suffering from dementia, as long as he’s reciting some of their talking points.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 4:10:22 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Just curious were any WMD’s actually found in Iraq?

You didn't know that?

29 posted on 12/16/2011 4:11:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Just curious were any WMD’s actually found in Iraq?

Yes. Several iraqi artillery shell casings that were not fused were found to have traces of sarin on them. Also, this little gem: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/

30 posted on 12/16/2011 4:12:24 PM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Good point. You have just nailed it.


31 posted on 12/16/2011 4:19:18 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Just curious were any WMD’s actually found in Iraq?
Yes.

Do we really have iron clad intelligence coimg out of Iran?
Taht they are enriching uranium past the 20% needed for power? Absolutely.
That they are building IRBMS and developing ICBMs? The Iranians are showing these off.

32 posted on 12/16/2011 4:28:34 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: svcw; rightwingextremist1776
I sincerely doubt that PaulTards were Ross Perot supporters.

On April 22, 2009, Ross Perot was made an Honorary Green Beret at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center in Fayetteville, North Carolina, that also honored the OSS, Alamo Scouts and the First Special Service Force, elite World War Two units that were inducted into the "1st Special Forces" Regiment.

In May 2009, he was appointed an honorary chairman of The OSS Society. On October 15, 2009, the U.S. Military Academy at West Point awarded him with the distinguished Sylvanus Thayer Award.

On Oct. 2, 2010, Perot was given the William J. Donovan Award from the OSS Society at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Washington, D.C. He is the 26th receipent of the award.

Just prior to the 1979 Iranian Revolution, the government of Iran imprisoned two EDS employees in a contract dispute. Perot organized and sponsored their rescue. The rescue team was led by retired U.S. Army Special Forces Colonel Arthur D. "Bull" Simons. When the team was unable to find a way to extract their two prisoners, they decided to wait for a mob of pro-Ayatollah revolutionaries to storm the jail and free all 10,000 inmates, many of whom were political prisoners. The two prisoners then connected with the rescue team, and the team spirited them out of Iran via a risky border crossing into Turkey.

Perot became heavily involved in the Vietnam War POW/MIA issue. He believed that hundreds of American servicemen were left behind in Southeast Asia at the end of the U.S. involvement in the war, and that government officials were covering up POW/MIA investigations in order to avoid revealing a drug smuggling operation used to finance a secret war in Laos. Perot engaged in unauthorized back-channel discussions with Vietnamese officials in the late 1980s, which led to fractured relations between Perot and the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations. In 1990, Perot reached agreement with Vietnam's Foreign Ministry to become its business agent in the event that diplomatic relations were normalized. Perot also launched private investigations of, and attacks upon, U.S. Department of Defense official Richard Armitage.

Whether you agree with his actions or not whether he was crazy or not he was hardly a Ron Paul. He spent a lot of his own time and money trying to help POWs in Vietnam.

33 posted on 12/16/2011 4:43:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: seanmerc
PAUL: To declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims and say all Muslims are the same, this is dangerous talk. Yeah, there are some radicals. But they don't come here to kill us because we're free and prosperous. Do they go to the Switzerland and Sweden? PAUL: I mean that's absurd! What is the whole world about the drone being in Iran and we're begging and pleading and how we're gonna start a war to get this drone back? Why were we fly a drone over Iran? Why do we have to bomb so many countries? You're trying to dramatize this that we have to go and treat Iran like we've treated Iraq and kill a million Iraqis and 8,000-some Americans have died since we've gone to war. You cannot solve these problems with war!

This simply does not make sense...sounds like the equivalent of flailing of the arms to make noise to distract from the fact you aren't answering the question or responding to the points made by another candidate.

34 posted on 12/16/2011 4:53:16 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: seanmerc

As I told my wife Ron Paul probably because of his own experience or personal philosophy pushes for a world as he does as to what should be among nations. He surely lacks an understanding of how the world outside of his small world that seems to not affect him in Texas actually operates. I sometimes believe that Paul’s resolution of Pearl Harbor would have been to tell the Japs not to do it again before discussing their beefs. Young folks who live in their own one sided and time limited world really don’t see a need to be forceful against danger or aggression and fit Paul’s idea of the world. Of course their own actions are not such as shown by ‘Occupants’.


35 posted on 12/16/2011 4:57:10 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: TigersEye; rightwingextremist1776

You may also be correct T. I was thinking more in the light of mind set of supporters. Projection.
So R, I may have missed you point completely then.
paulbots are a very strange lot, living in some other world for sure.


36 posted on 12/16/2011 5:01:42 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

About Switzerland and Sweden, I do not know specifically, however there have been over 10,000 acts of islamic terrorism since 9/11, so yea Paul they do get around.
The drone thing, has anyone said we are going to war over it, I mean BHO is making nicey nice with Iran, isn’t that what Paul wants?


37 posted on 12/16/2011 5:06:53 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: svcw
I think the majority of PaulTards were barely out of diapers when Perot ran I think. I can't speak for other Perot supporters but I voted for him and I never held him in fanatical esteem. I simply liked his calls for financial responsibility and accountability and no-nonsense law and order mindset. That in spite of my opinion that drugs should be decriminalized.

Compared to "One World Order - I quit the NRA" GHW Bush or used-car salesman Clinton he looked good to me.

38 posted on 12/16/2011 5:09:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: seanmerc

Reagan = Aircraft carrier , Paul = leaky canoe. Media knows he will sink so why bother. But man they feared and hated Reagan.


39 posted on 12/16/2011 5:21:10 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: TigersEye
I wasn't comparing the men....I was comparing their supporters....which seems to me from experience to be ex-Perotnestias.....
40 posted on 12/16/2011 5:23:44 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: seanmerc

In answer to your question: Rush Limbaugh takes Ron Paul seriously because Paul’s foreign policy—a foreign policy which is not in the interests of the globocrats who have abused our country’s resources and sovereignty, turned us into a bankster bailing-out paradise, and used our military as a big stick for multinationals and the U.N.—is the foreign policy most Americans support. Most Americans don’t want us in foreign wars unless our soil or our citizens are attacked. We don’t want to pay for the defense of other countries when those countries have their own means to do so (e.g., Korea and Germany) or aren’t our supporters in the first place (e.g., Kuwait and Saudi Arabia). Most Americans want our borders secured now. And all that scares the living crap out of the globocrats who set up this foreign policy of military mission bloat, shrinking national sovereignty, and transferring of power by treaty agreements to international bodies, all moves unapproved by popular accord but by sneaky back-door lobbying and legislation. The power players have spent many years and untold trillions to establish their view that our country’s thousands of troop postings abroad are all that keeps America safe. Rusty Limbaugh is a guy that these folks can call in the chips with whenever they really, really need a mouthpiece.

This is just Rush showing his yellow stripes again. I saw the same noise from others on Fox this morning. Ol’ crazy RP, look, he’s crazy, etc., etc. I suspect Rush and the amen corner of the national press will be making up more tinfoil hat crap right up until the election so as to drive away potential RP votes. God forbid we get a proven constitutionalist into office, and ruin the interests of Limbaugh’s clients with a foreign policy that stops our American military from being used as a police department for multinationals. That, of course, is why members of the military actually support Ron Paul via donations nearly ten-to-one over his closest primary competitors).

And it’s not as if there was ever any doubt Limbaugh would come out swinging against Ron Paul if Paul struck fear into the heart of the globocrats. Rush carried water for Bush the Elder back in the day that a far better option, Pat Buchanan, was running against that globoweenie, and he pushed for Romney against McCain—ROMNEY, the proven leftie who’s better than McCain because...well, because Rush said he was.

Rush is gutless anyway, because he COULD endorse a real conservative candidate when it might make a difference (Bachman, now, for example) but doesn’t. Instead he just dances around with the not-Romney crowd and now the not-Ron-Paul crowd and refuses to pick a date. What a complete wuss.


41 posted on 12/16/2011 5:24:31 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Newt Gingrich, a great conservative? Before he was Speaker and had to walk the walk, sure.)
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To: svcw

See my reply to TE...
You understood what I was saying...


42 posted on 12/16/2011 5:26:53 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: ColdSteelTalon

>>> Do we really have iron clad intelligence coimg out of Iran?

You have the public pronouncements of the mullahs and the little nut job running the place - take them at their word. They want Israel wiped from the face of the Earth. And a President Ron Paul would let them.


43 posted on 12/16/2011 5:27:08 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Given the average age of a PaulTard that seems unlikely.


44 posted on 12/16/2011 5:33:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Or, Rush recognizes insanity when he sees it. With RP it’s hard to miss.


45 posted on 12/16/2011 5:36:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: seanmerc

Kooks make for good comedy


46 posted on 12/16/2011 5:39:24 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: TigersEye
Well, it may be anecdotal after all but all the PaulTards I know were Perot poogs back in the day....
47 posted on 12/16/2011 5:40:28 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: LibertarianInExile; seanmerc

Wow, L.
Limbaugh never endorces in the primary.
Limbaugh does not take Paul seriously because Paul is delusional.
Most Americans understand defense, well those who do not support Paul anyway.
Who is the constitutionalist you are talking about?
What military supports Paul, paulbots say that and can show a few people that do, but I can tell you that my family who is in the military (special forces, Navy, Air Force) think he is a nut case.
Of course Limbaugh fears Paul, Paul is dangerous and delusional, anyone with a thinking brain can see that.
Just to name a few items.


48 posted on 12/16/2011 5:44:17 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: TigersEye; seanmerc; BigEdLB; marty60; Maelstorm; flintsilver7; John D; Logical me; Jim Scott; ...

It’s insanity. They’re all “Paultards” and “Paulbots” and loopy. That must be it. I bet you all convince a lot of people thinking about Ron Paul as a primary candidate to vote your way. Good work there! /sarc

It’s comments like yours, insulting the man instead of addressing the man’s politics, that made it so easy for me to vote Republican back when Reagan was being called senile, crazy, and fascist. So keep up the good work, get those independents rushing into your big tent!

And fwiw, I didn’t support Ross Perot and most Paul supporters I have met weren’t even able to vote while Perot was a factor. But this ‘crazy’ crap was leveled against Perot, too, and Perot has turned out to have been pretty prescient regarding the results of NAFTA and our national debt. I think that’s maybe the biggest failure your ‘insanity’ comments have when you spout them about Ron Paul—he’s been ‘crazy’ so long an awful lot of the folks behind the podiums up there are sounding like him. When all you’ve got is the “he’s got a wacky foreign policy” critique in an election that turns on domestic policy, I guess people like y’all are in deep $#!#.


49 posted on 12/16/2011 5:54:46 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Newt Gingrich, a great conservative? Before he was Speaker and had to walk the walk, sure.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

The guy doesn’t “MIND” Iran getting DA BOMB...

‘nuff said?


50 posted on 12/16/2011 5:59:26 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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