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Perry drawing state retirement plus salary
Star-Telegram ^ | December 15, | Maria Recio

Posted on 12/17/2011 2:00:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: moose-matson
What's not speculation is that Perry should have mentioned this long before now, back when it kicked in, in January.

Whatever stance you may take on this issue, having this revealed via federal financial disclosures at this point in the campaign is not going to be good publicity for Perry. He's lucky that there aren't any more debates between now and Iowa, but you can bet that there will be ads about this run.
141 posted on 12/17/2011 9:33:33 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Tribune7
So, what is guaranteed in the Thrift Savings Plan? I always kept all my money in the C fund, and then the S fund, and moved in and out in an astute fashion so that my earnings were far beyond what you imagine could be done with an investment fund that could be bought or sold only at the end of the month.

That kept all my money in the private sector.

Bet you bought some T bills ~ gave it all up to Uncle Sam didn't ya?

142 posted on 12/17/2011 9:41:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
So, what is guaranteed in the Thrift Savings Plan?

Nothing. TSP is peachy.

If you didn't have FERS to go along with it, I doubt there would be complaints about anything.

143 posted on 12/17/2011 9:45:33 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: BobL
The Indiana Toll Road WAS ALWAYS A TOLL ROAD. It predates the Interstate System. There is a parallel Interstate highway there anyway.

The toll road has an interstate designation simply for convenience.

Now, where do you get your information about what Mitch Daniels does?

144 posted on 12/17/2011 9:46:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tribune7

How about this, if you didn’t have FERS you would have CSRS, which is a more costly system. No two ways about it ~ FERS PLUS the Thrift Savings Plan costs the government less than CSRS.


145 posted on 12/17/2011 9:48:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tribune7
The High Three is used ~ and then a percentage factor is applied to it based on years of service.

NOBODY actually gets the "high three" ~ With Fers that 1% per year with 20 years of service would be 20%. You'd multiply the high three by .20 and you'd get that as your annual retirement payment.

146 posted on 12/17/2011 9:52:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tribune7
Your ref to the AEI article is, to say the least, garbage. The guy does his federal comparison starting at age 21. Fact is the average federal employee doesn't start until he's 35 years of age (there are long lines of people waiting for these jobs, eh).

If he works 20 years from the time he's 35 until he's 56, he's really not getting all that much time in the defined benefit part of the retirement program.

Plus, many of the private retirement plans end up with a lump sum annuity that is transferable at death to heirs and assigns. That's not the case with any of the federal plans. You die the goodies stop.

147 posted on 12/17/2011 9:58:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
How about this, if you didn’t have FERS you would have CSRS, which is a more costly system. No two ways about it ~ FERS PLUS the Thrift Savings Plan costs the government less than CSRS.

How about this, if you didn't have FERS you would have Social Security. SS plus TSP would cost the government less than FERS plus TSP (and be just like the private sector so nobody would complain)

148 posted on 12/17/2011 10:05:58 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess well all should have gotten high paying, major benefited, govt jobs. I could have retired 24 years ago.

Instead, here I am still trying to scratch out a living as a small biz owner. I’m the last one to get paid. If it all these days. But the govt entities, and the required by law to have ins companies, employees, utilities, vendors, etc, all get paid before I do. I’m last on the list. Some folks don’t get this. Especially those dipsh!ts in govt “service.”

Next time around I will know better. Get a govt job. Retire at 38. Get another job in govt, collect my retirement, and my salary from the 2nd govt job.


149 posted on 12/17/2011 10:06:51 PM PST by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: potlatch

“And you again avoided the comment about “required” shots for school.”

I answered your question. My kids have every shot required, and will continue to do so as long as those shots don’t involve diseases spread through crappy behavior.

So, get some sleep, and I’m sorry that you have to resort to talking like a Nanny Stater just to support a corrupt candidate.


150 posted on 12/17/2011 10:12:31 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: BobL

We are from the govt, and we are here to help you. Do not resist. Do not resist. Ok, he’s not cooperating...tase him Frank!


151 posted on 12/17/2011 10:14:13 PM PST by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: muawiyah

“There is a parallel Interstate highway there anyway.”

Yep, 50 miles north. That makes sense to people living in Indiana. Daniels is almost as much an IDIOT as Perry is. At least with Daniels, he would have had to look to another country to see what Cintra does to people that drive their highways. Perry could just look to Indiana...but when you’re corrupt as hell, why bother.


152 posted on 12/17/2011 10:18:49 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: takenoprisoner

“We are from the govt, and we are here to help you. Do not resist. Do not resist. Ok, he’s not cooperating...tase him Frank!”

People that support Newt still will DISAGREE with him sitting on that couch with Pelosi.

...but if Perry had done the same thing, his supporters would be explaining to us why Global Warming is such a problem and a good leader take care of us and we need to support Pelosi in her quest.

I’m simply at a loss as to how ANYONE can defend MANDATING Gardasil on a conservative website. But I guess there are trolls everywhere.


153 posted on 12/17/2011 10:32:15 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: takenoprisoner

“We are from the govt, and we are here to help you. Do not resist. Do not resist. Ok, he’s not cooperating...tase him Frank!”

At this point I plan to vote for Newt, simply because Cain is gone. But I will NEVER try to defend his position on legalizing millions of Illegals, NEVER.

Yet, have you noticed that NONE of the Perry supporters EVER have a bad thing to say about him - even on Gardasil or the Texas Dream Act.
(just shows what money can buy...)


154 posted on 12/17/2011 10:40:46 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: BobL

The Indiana Toll Road has always been The Indiana Toll Road ~ never been a freeway ~ so your point about what Daniels did with a toll road is what?


155 posted on 12/18/2011 5:21:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tribune7
Sorry, didn't work out that way. You are forgetting that federal agencies are required to MAKE A PAYMENT OUT OF CURRENT BUDGET into the FERS retirement system. Previously they weren't required to do that so with the older CSRS system you actually had a retirement system that was paid for mostly with employee contributions.

Some agencies, e.g. USPS, make that payment out of revenues received in payment of postage ~ not from spending your tax dollars. The poor schlubs who just want to advertise their wares to you, or sell you cruises, or maybe news about what your TEA Party chapter is up to 'locally', pay that.

Regarding COLA you have to remember the people getting the retirement didn't create the inflation behind it. if you can ever get to a zero inflation situation (like we've had for the last three years), then COLA turns to ZERO, just like with Social Security.

BTW, you forced the government folks into Social Security already ~ which is another thing I'm curious about ~ your Democrat masters told you that it would be good for Social Security to include the federal employees in the system ~ that there'd be a "profit" to the system ~ so, where's the profit? Did the Democrats lie to you again?

You should take appropriate action and get the pick-up trucks out and go after those dasterdly people.

156 posted on 12/18/2011 5:33:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: takenoprisoner
We should have all gotten doctorates in education so we could become School District Superintendents. Learn to chuckle at the slightest provocation, buy the better suits, hang around the office after hours a tad ~ and when you retire hire out yourself to the district as a consultant for as much as you had been paid as an employee.

Working for a living was a stupid thing to do ~

157 posted on 12/18/2011 5:36:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: BobL
Sure, the highway curves up around the Lake and heads off to Detroit City ~ but once you get East of Souf'Bend there isn't anybody there ~ just fields of mint and goldenrod.

Remember, not everybody gets an Interstate door to door. I did because I moved to a location that did that for me. Then they built a subway, started up commuter rail, etc. I'm living here at a vast transportation nexus that enables me to cover the entire DC Metro Area in under an hour ~ you can live places around here where it takes you an hour to get to the Beltway. I can hear the Beltway!

158 posted on 12/18/2011 5:40:30 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You got yours & I'm really don't want to take it from you BUT if SS & Medicare & defense are going to have to be cut to solve our fiscal problems and taxes are going to be raised, then I think it's only fair to ask fed employees AND RETIREES to share the pain.

Right?

159 posted on 12/18/2011 6:10:43 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: BobL

Has Newt said his position was wrong legalizing millions of illegals?
{BTW: this is a FEDERAL ISSUE that effects all Americans}

Perry said he made a mistake and should have had an Opt In instead of an Opt Out. Or that he should have let the Tx Legislature handle it.
{BTW: this is a STATE ISSUE that only involves Texas}

Regarding the Texas Dream Act...
is something Texans agreed with.
Perry could not have stopped that law because the Texas Legislature voted on it almost unanimously. He could not have vetoed it even if he wanted to.
{BTW: this is a STATE ISSUE that only involves TEXAS}

If Texans want or do not want the HPV vaccine - they will have to take it up with their STATE Representatives.

If Texans want or do not want the Tx Dream Act...
(which is in no way similar to the National Dream Act and only involves the price of tuition [which they have to PAY] high school graduated [mandated K-12 education by FEDERAL GOVERNMENT] who qualify for college),
they will have to take it up with their STATE
Representatives.
{It is a STATE ISSUE only involving the state of TEXAS}

Perry listened to Texans when it came down to TTC and backed off. What more do you want? Besides, TTC was a STATE ISSUE).

If Texans want or do not want Amnesty for millions of Illegals (which Newt is for) they will have to vote on the 2012 Candidate that is NOT for Amnesty (Perry is NOT for Amnesty) or look to their FEDERAL Congress Critter.


160 posted on 12/18/2011 6:17:07 AM PST by TexMom7
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