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Tea Partyers Not Keen About GOP Presidential Field
NPR ^ | Dec 18, 2012 | AP

Posted on 12/18/2011 8:57:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Just a year ago, tea party activists came roaring out of the congressional elections eager to shape the looming race for the White House.

Things have not gone as planned.

Turned off by Mitt Romney's style and evolution on several important issues, they have bounced from one candidate to another in hopes of finding a formidable alternative to the former Massachusetts governor to focus their enthusiasm.

After a series of disappointments — Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, and businessman Herman Cain among them — the anti-establishment movement has settled, for now, on a favorite: former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, even though he has spent more than three decades in Washington politics.

With the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3 and tea party support fractured at best, some activists worry that the passion that defined the movement 13 months ago may become lost in the selection of the next president.

Infighting among conservative groups, a growing sense of pragmatism, and glaring weaknesses among the candidates have forced some tea party leaders to acknowledge their limits and shift their attention to Congress.

"I wish that we had coalesced behind one candidate earlier on. It's not because of the tea party movement, it's because there hasn't been that candidate out there so far that has stirred the passion — the fire in the belly," said Amy Kremer, president of the Tea Party Express. "Everybody wants to focus on presidential politics. I think we need to be focused on the Senate. That's where we really, really need to be engaged."

Lacking a presidential contender to rally behind, Kremer's organization and others have begun eyeing congressional elections that could shift the balance of power on Capitol Hill next fall regardless of the presidential race winner.

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KEYWORDS: elections; gingrich; newt; romney
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Yet Gingrich is leading 2:1 or better over Romney among the conservative base and tea party supporters:


http://www.gallup.com/poll/151355/Gingrich-Romney-Among-GOP-Voters-Nationwide.aspx

1 posted on 12/18/2011 8:57:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

“Things have not gone as planned.”

GOP happens.


2 posted on 12/18/2011 8:58:21 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That chart should bury Romney in the primaries. I suppose that is why the flurry of endorsements from empty suits.


3 posted on 12/18/2011 8:59:47 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m not impressed with any of these people. But will say, Newt is slickest, and probably smartest person on the stage. Never thought I’d vote for someone named after a lizard.

Oh, Merry Christmas!


4 posted on 12/18/2011 9:04:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Psalm 144

“Things have not gone as planned.”

GOP happens.

This is from the AP...


5 posted on 12/18/2011 9:04:28 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If Gingrich is serious about arresting judges, he’s helping Obama get reelected.


6 posted on 12/18/2011 9:05:27 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: yup2394871293

BULL FEATHERS.


7 posted on 12/18/2011 9:07:35 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Six months ago I never would’ve believed that Newt would be our nominee. I was on the Cain train until the media destroyed him. Michele was my homegrown choice but I don’t see a chance for her now.

Anybody but Romney now. He’s no better than Obamao.

Lord help this great nation and those of us that love liberty.


8 posted on 12/18/2011 9:08:43 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Savage claims that Newt results in an automatic win for Obumber.


9 posted on 12/18/2011 9:08:51 PM PST by AlexW
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To: dragnet2
Never thought I’d vote for someone named after a lizard.

LOL! Newt is a nickname. His name is actually Newton.

10 posted on 12/18/2011 9:10:05 PM PST by freespirited
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To: AlexW

Savage, as in Michael Weiner? Yeah, that’s a huge loss.


11 posted on 12/18/2011 9:11:49 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: yup2394871293

please search to find this thread and get caught up to speed.
Newt moves fast - and knows what he is talking about.
I am ready to get Newt signs for my yard....

“Gingrich: Congress can send Capitol Police to arrest rogue judges”


12 posted on 12/18/2011 9:13:18 PM PST by wwcj
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To: Jim Robinson

This election is shaping up to be worse than 2008. I don’t trust Milt one bit. He will sell us out to the DemocRATS.


13 posted on 12/18/2011 9:13:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m not happy about the ticket at all. I’m waiting to see the fallout from the early stuff before I make my decision. It’s not Romney. That’s my last choice besides Obama.


14 posted on 12/18/2011 9:13:53 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Jim Robinson

I dont blame the Tea Party. They really have no candidate to support... They all flip flop and pay lip service. I for one do not know who I am going to vote for at this point...


15 posted on 12/18/2011 9:14:05 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: SgtBob

“This is from the AP...”

And?


16 posted on 12/18/2011 9:14:50 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I'd rather have McCain than Mitt. Mitt's talk is better than McCain, but his actions are worse.

Actually, I'd rather have neither one.

17 posted on 12/18/2011 9:14:50 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Psalm 144

Well, like it or not, this race is narrowing down to Newt vs Romney.

And all you’ve got to do is look at their records:

Newt Gingrich: A pro-life Reganite who as Speaker of the House led the Republican Revolution, took the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years, passed the Contract with America, cut taxes, cut regulations, cut the deficit, cut unemployment, balanced the budget (four years running), reformed welfare, blocked Clinton’s agenda, blocked a socialist healthcare system (HillaryCare). Not a bad conservative record.

Mitt Romney: A Reagan denying, abortion defending, moderate (leftist) Ted Kennedy ally whose crowning achievement is passing an Obama-like socialist healthcare system (RomneyCare), an achievement he still prides himself on today. He saddled his state with tax payer funded abortion, gay marriage, gun-control, liberal activist judges, budget busting big government programs, mandates against individuals and a destroyed Republican brand. Not a conservative record at all.

The record is clear, the choice is clear. If left to Newt vs Mitt, this tea partyer is all in with Newt. Don’t know where Kremer is, cause it’s a no brainer.

Mitt happens.


18 posted on 12/18/2011 9:17:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: dragnet2
Never thought I’d vote for someone named after a lizard.

A newt is an amphibian, a salamander. For part of its life cycle it is green and lives in the water, for the other part it is red (called an eft) and lives on land. Maybe there's some symbolism there.

19 posted on 12/18/2011 9:18:08 PM PST by hellbender
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To: wwcj

How does he define rogue judges? If a judge does something that he should be impeached for, I would think that is congress’s job or maybe fellow judges. We don’t need a Dear Leader to tell judges what to do or else. Obama’s sniping at the supreme court, outrageous EO’s, and tsars are bad enough.


20 posted on 12/18/2011 9:18:16 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: AlexW

Savage claims that Newt results in an automatic win for Obumber.”

How are his listener numbers these days?


21 posted on 12/18/2011 9:18:16 PM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: dragnet2

“Never thought I’d vote for someone named after a lizard.”

Technically an amphibian, if that helps. Nevertheless, an amphibian has more authenticity than a hologram though, so yeah. Newt in a heartbeat over Romney.


22 posted on 12/18/2011 9:18:21 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

I don’t know how Perry is doing in Texas but the last I saw Rick and Michelle were not leading even in their own states. At least Newt is ahead in his state of Georgia. GO NEWT!


23 posted on 12/18/2011 9:19:14 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Thanks for your insight..

I’m TEA PARTY, so is my father, mother, brothers etc.

We are all behind Newt.

Welcome to the new TEA PARTY, same as the old TEA PARTY.


24 posted on 12/18/2011 9:19:26 PM PST by wwcj
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To: Jim Robinson

“Mitt happens.”

Indeed. It just has to be shaken off and the march continues.


25 posted on 12/18/2011 9:21:17 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson

Hey, we made it through a Sunday with no server hiccups!
John must have found the problem...good work, and thanks!


26 posted on 12/18/2011 9:21:17 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Psalm 144
It's not because of the tea party movement, it's because there hasn't been that candidate out there so far that has stirred the passion — the fire in the belly," said Amy Kremer, president of the Tea Party Express.

I've been waiting for the trite 2008 "fire in the belly" remarks. Regardless, whether you like his policies and philosophy on a variety of issues, Gingrich appears to be one of the few with critical thinking and communication skills driving his candidacy with any chance of winning. By comparison, most of the others are flying under the radar.

27 posted on 12/18/2011 9:21:48 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Gee, I wonder who NPR is carrying the water for? wink, wink.


28 posted on 12/18/2011 9:23:40 PM PST by Rodm
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To: yup2394871293

Don’t fall for the twisted leftist headlines.

Read Newt’s actual position paper on:

Bringing the Courts Back Under the Constitution

http://www.newt.org/sites/newt.org/files/Courts.pdf

Read and bookmark.


29 posted on 12/18/2011 9:24:34 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Cobra64

“Gingrich appears to be one of the few with critical thinking and communication skills driving his candidacy with any chance of winning.”

I agree. He is an acceptable compromise.


30 posted on 12/18/2011 9:25:07 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: AlexW

Savage is an idiot.


31 posted on 12/18/2011 9:25:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: yup2394871293

YES - exactly,
lets get a national microscope on this issue, which Newt has made way for.
Newt doesn’t have a problem putting his career in the mirror of the constitution, BUT the other side does.
It’s good for his election, and even better for this country.


32 posted on 12/18/2011 9:26:24 PM PST by wwcj
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To: yup2394871293

He guarantees Obama’s re-election if he is nominated after that comment.

I’ve been voting since Goldwater and that is hands down the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard a candidate make.


33 posted on 12/18/2011 9:27:55 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Cobra64

Fire in the belly in 2008? Was that a McCainism? Somehow I missed that.

Made myself mute yelling at the SOB when he said Obamao was a nice man, and he’s not a muslim, at a town hall in Minnesota. Until the day I die I will not forget that. Thought the security guys were going to arrest me. Then one of them smiled at me. LOL!


34 posted on 12/18/2011 9:30:09 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I think you’re staring at your lava lamp and not your crystal ball.


35 posted on 12/18/2011 9:31:04 PM PST by wwcj
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To: dragnet2

His first full name is Newton.


36 posted on 12/18/2011 9:32:21 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Psalm 144
I agree. He is an acceptable compromise.

In my almost 62 years, I've yet to meet the perfect individual. Gingrich was a very effective Speaker and has done a lot for the conservative cause.

"Bret Baier asked Newt Gingrich what makes you most qualified to create jobs and grow the economy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=349DpnEm4Lo

37 posted on 12/18/2011 9:32:33 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

No it’s not. It’s a twisted reactionary headline and nowhere close to the truth.

Read Newt’s actual position paper on overcoming the activist judiciary:

http://www.newt.org/sites/newt.org/files/Courts.pdf


38 posted on 12/18/2011 9:33:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: yup2394871293
I'm still uncertain except for Paul and Huntsman, but after watching Romney on TV on Fox News Sunday, then Gingrich spend a lot of precious broadcast TV on CBS explaining again our co-equal branches without the constant checkmating by the courts without challenge... I'm still not sure who to go all out for, but knewt's disortation on judicial tyranny was really a grabber for me!!!

Of course if everyone would listen to my point of view, this world would be a wonder place indeed!!!

Romney really exposed himself to me as being just like Schwartzennegger who caused a far bigger set-back for CA conservatives than dim bulb Gray Davis ever was.

People who say that anyone of the seven are certain to be better than Obama better review what happened to us here in CA with our historic Recall Election fiasco!

Romney doesn't plan to change hardly ANYTHING from Obama and is expecting us to "Trust him" which is exactly what I shrink from doing forever after listening to his interview today. Mike Wallace did a great job of drawing him out and letting him quarter himself.

Knewt on the other hand is running a risk of shocking voters, but Reagan said we should avoid the pastels of the moderates and boldly paint our conservative ideas in stark contrast to the status quo. (not an exact quote)

But my biggest thrill during the last debate was watching Michelle rip Romney and Gingrich with "Newt Romney" and completely annhilated the outrageous Dr. Paul as he so well deserved!!!

I still think she is one hell of a woman and would make one hell of a President because she says the way things really are and she seems to mean everything she says. She, to me should be the one that Tea Partiers should be flocking to in spite of her one or two faux pas incidents.

She, like Herman is "real people!!!"

39 posted on 12/18/2011 9:35:03 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: mplsconservative
I don't remember who supposedly had the proverbial "fire in the belly."
40 posted on 12/18/2011 9:35:43 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: jessduntno; Jim Robinson

“How are his listener numbers these days?”
______________________________________

I have heard that he is loosing stations.
There is, as you know, a devoted FR listener base.
Please do not include me as a devote.
He is good at pointing out Obumber’s Marxist ideology, but sucks at most everything else.

Savage makes me sick when he says Obama is probably the “smartest” POTUS in history.
I have no idea what he is smoking, and I could easily do without him, but he comes on just as I wake up in the morning, so I usually tune in via RadioTime.com

I then listen to Rush, which has been automatically
recorded on Dar.FM, another great service for recording radio shows that are on when you are not around.


41 posted on 12/18/2011 9:41:42 PM PST by AlexW
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To: SierraWasp

The government is in the shape it’s in because of congress and the executive branch cannot bring spending and government initiatives under control. The only reason that judiciary is a problem is that congress and the executive branch keep nominating and confirming crappy judges. See a pattern here? If you believe that we should go back to the constitution, start obeying laws, passing laws that are constitutional, and stop trying to undermine the constitution for the flimsiest of reasons, including the cop-out that you are “trying to save it”.


42 posted on 12/18/2011 9:41:55 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: dragnet2

I believe that Newts amphibians and not lizards.

Either way, I wont vote for a lizard or a newt or a Newt Gingrich.


43 posted on 12/18/2011 9:42:25 PM PST by CSI007
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To: RIghtwardHo

So, are you still beating your wife?

You said you were.


44 posted on 12/18/2011 9:43:04 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SierraWasp

your post sounds like many discussions i’ve been having in public.
Looks like you’re for Newt and don’t know it yet.
Bachman is precious as can be, and I kinda agree with you.
Just don’t think our side, or her for that matter...is ready at this level.
Maybe next time around.
Many are turning to Newt after they do research, and stop listening to the media.
Jim is doing a great job of digging up the facts and posting them for you to see.


45 posted on 12/18/2011 9:43:54 PM PST by wwcj
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To: yup2394871293

Newt is suggesting constitutional remedies, such as the legislature start using their constitutional powers over the judiciary to reign in rogue judges. He also suggests that the Executive branch stop allowing judiciary infringement over duties which are reserved to the Executive branch.

Go to Newt.org to read his white paper on the courts if you want to understand what Newt is really saying. It is 54 pages, so plan to spend some time on it.

Taken in context, Newt is not proposing to be a Dear Leader, he is stating that the Court is not supposed to be a Dear Leader.


46 posted on 12/18/2011 9:46:03 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Psalm 144

Believe what you will from the MSM...


47 posted on 12/18/2011 9:49:57 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: yup2394871293
If a judge does something that he should be impeached for, I would think that is congress’s job...

No kiddin', squidly. That's what Newt is saying.

48 posted on 12/18/2011 9:55:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: yup2394871293
The government is in the shape it’s in because of congress and the executive branch cannot bring spending and government initiatives under control. The only reason that judiciary is a problem is that congress and the executive branch keep nominating and confirming crappy judges. See a pattern here? If you believe that we should go back to the constitution, start obeying laws, passing laws that are constitutional, and stop trying to undermine the constitution for the flimsiest of reasons, including the cop-out that you are “trying to save it”.

I see you still haven't taken Jim's suggestion and read Newt's actual STATED position on this issue have you?

Otherwise, you would have already sheepishly admitted the mistake you made earlier rather than continuing on with this line of posting.
49 posted on 12/18/2011 10:05:51 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Jim Robinson

The whole field leaves me cold. I’m placing my efforts in working to strengthen our control in the House and Senate and our race for Governor. No matter who occupies the White House in 2013 will need our constant vigilance.


50 posted on 12/18/2011 10:09:36 PM PST by upsdriver
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