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Tea Partyers Not Keen About GOP Presidential Field
NPR ^ | Dec 18, 2012 | AP

Posted on 12/18/2011 8:57:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Just a year ago, tea party activists came roaring out of the congressional elections eager to shape the looming race for the White House.

Things have not gone as planned.

Turned off by Mitt Romney's style and evolution on several important issues, they have bounced from one candidate to another in hopes of finding a formidable alternative to the former Massachusetts governor to focus their enthusiasm.

After a series of disappointments — Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, and businessman Herman Cain among them — the anti-establishment movement has settled, for now, on a favorite: former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, even though he has spent more than three decades in Washington politics.

With the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3 and tea party support fractured at best, some activists worry that the passion that defined the movement 13 months ago may become lost in the selection of the next president.

Infighting among conservative groups, a growing sense of pragmatism, and glaring weaknesses among the candidates have forced some tea party leaders to acknowledge their limits and shift their attention to Congress.

"I wish that we had coalesced behind one candidate earlier on. It's not because of the tea party movement, it's because there hasn't been that candidate out there so far that has stirred the passion — the fire in the belly," said Amy Kremer, president of the Tea Party Express. "Everybody wants to focus on presidential politics. I think we need to be focused on the Senate. That's where we really, really need to be engaged."

Lacking a presidential contender to rally behind, Kremer's organization and others have begun eyeing congressional elections that could shift the balance of power on Capitol Hill next fall regardless of the presidential race winner.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; gingrich; newt; romney
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To: wwcj
I'm just afraid that Knewt is all sizzle and no steak. He initiated the 1994 landslide along with two Texans, Tom Delay and Dick Armey, the other congressional leader who is now working with one of the largest Tea Party factions. It wasn't long before Knewt's leadership and administrative abilities just vaporized right around the impeachment of Clinton. (or thereabouts)

I'll bet you've gone all in for polititians before, like almost everybody else and then the SOB broke your heart unmercifily due to either lack of integrity, or just plain old short-comings you never expected to see. It's a humiliating experience like conservatives in eastern and central CA suffered under the Turdminator!!!

It's serious business, this selecting who to support and the "court of public opinion" is occasionally right but mostly wrong and we must base our judgements on firmly anchored concepts and precepts based on freedom and liberty guided by constitutional principles.

I remember all the bitter comments I saw on FR about the 2008 election cycle being nothing but another American Idol "reality show" that wasn't very real until it was too late because the media refused to do it's constitutionally authorized job!!!

51 posted on 12/18/2011 10:14:39 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“I’ve been voting since Goldwater and that is hands down the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard a candidate make.”

So with what ears did you “hear” this with, because he didnt say that at all.


52 posted on 12/18/2011 10:14:54 PM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Jim Robinson

“It’s a twisted reactionary headline and nowhere close to the truth.”

The media will continue distorting the conservative message until we learn to stand together to fight them. We can expose the national media the same way the journalista group was exposed by identifying all of the extreme left wing participants. When you put faces on them and tie them to their leftist socialist ideology they no longer appear so authoritarian to the average citizen.

We can start by addressing their individual names and not addressing them as “the media”.


53 posted on 12/18/2011 10:17:01 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (The media are a group of radical globalist progressive Marxists who hide behind their newsprint.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Myth will sell us out right to our face proud that he was bi-partisan..

NOOt will sell us out in the back rooms.. like sneaky Pete.. but at least he will not be proud of it..

I’ll go with nOOt, then when someone shoots him for treason he will know why..
Myth will think he is being persecuted.. by conservatives.. The boy is delusional..

I’m warming to Ron Paul.. NOW there would be a change in Washington D.C.. Hopefully Congress would/could ride herd on him.. A Ron Paul Presidency would definitely change things.. and scare the hell of almost everybody..

I believe thats what “WE” all need.. A meat ax taken to the federal government..
At le


54 posted on 12/18/2011 10:31:43 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m glad I live in Kentucky, since the race will probably be decided by the time we have our primary.

I still can’t get over Newt sharing a couch with Nancy Pelosi spouting off about global warming. Throw in the mix his comments about Paul Ryan’s right-wing social engineering, praise for FDR as the greatest president of the 20th century, not to mention all his personal baggage.

I’ll grant you that Mitt governed like a social liberal and fiscal moderate in the most liberal state in the country, because that’s what the people there wanted. I’d like to think things would be different at the national level. But Newt lives in Georgia and has still screwed up royally without the pressure of a Massachusetts electorate. What’s his excuse?

Bottom line is Newt and Mitt both are bad choices, but unless something unexpected happens, that’s who we’re stuck with. If my vote mattered, I’d vote for who I thought had the best chance of beating Obama. Jim Demint or Paul Ryan could have walked away with this nomination. Even Tim Palenty may have had a shot if he had stayed in. Such a shame these two are who we’re left with.


55 posted on 12/18/2011 10:35:38 PM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: yup2394871293; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; ...
Which conservative Republican candidate is deliberately "undermining the constitution." beside Mr. Romney?

If you think it's Newt, I cannot agree with you just because he's willing to think outside the box of conventional wisdom, or the evolution of the onerous domination we see today by the judicial branch.

Earl Warren, of the infamous "Warren Court" during the Eisenhour administration started all this crappola about the superiority of the Supreme Court (and all the federal courts by extension) to all other branches of government!

What I find shocking as a voter is the sheepishness of most polititians and actually, even the people, which is why I held such high hopes for the Tea Party movement. I've seen people digging into their government like never before and I applaud politicians who do it even more!!!

I think everybody ought to hold off on deciding until at least 3 or 4 primary elections are held unless the live in an early primary state. It's never over till it over even though some on FR think they hear the gravitationally challenged member of the femine gender starting her vocalization exercises!!!

56 posted on 12/18/2011 10:41:57 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why did good people like Sarah Palin and Jim DeMint NOT run? I’m not “keen” about this GOP field either.


57 posted on 12/18/2011 10:41:59 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Savage is actually very intelligent. His Achilles heel is his ego, and anyone that might be thought of as another person with intelligence is a threat to him. Plus, there is no down side to his position. He tries to cast himself as an outsider, so being able to say that he didn’t like Newt from the start is valuable to him. He takes the whole “make the host look good” thing waaaay too far.


58 posted on 12/18/2011 10:42:53 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: no dems

Well, Sarah Palin and her family were being destroyed personally by the left and I’m sure Rove & Co would have done the same and even worse to her that they are doing to Newt. Don’t know about DeMint. Guess he just wasn’t interested.


59 posted on 12/18/2011 10:48:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Saint Reagan

What the people wanted?

Here’s all you need to know about Mitt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU

Be sure to watch the whole thing. It’s a compilation of about two dozen Romney clips.


60 posted on 12/18/2011 10:51:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Saint Reagan
You forgot to mention in your excellent list all the extreme GANG-GREEN EnvironMentalist positions he has touted. He's been so green I think he's made Gorbechev with his "International Green Cross" organization blush!!!

It's bad enough for him to blindly swallow all that green pond scum, let alone to promote it is almost too hard for me to forgive!!!

Again, he's just like Schwartzenrenegger!!!

61 posted on 12/18/2011 10:51:50 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: yup2394871293

The word is impeach -

and the judges are making law - not their right, and overturning peoples votes - illegal.

Time and again, especially on gay rights bills, in state after state, the people vote not the way the libs want - so off to court it goes and the peoples vote is tossed out.

Where, in the
Constitution does it give judges that right?


62 posted on 12/18/2011 10:51:52 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: AlexW
"Savage claims that Newt results in an automatic win for Obumber."

Savage is in the tank - you take it from there...

63 posted on 12/18/2011 10:53:48 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: wwcj

You’re spot on.

Newt’s problem is that he gives the American public too much credit.

He thinks they’ll understand plain English and that they know something about the Constitution.


64 posted on 12/18/2011 10:56:31 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Wait until Sarah endorses. She won’t, she said, until after Iowa, but she sure talks positive about Newt.

I don’t know if she’s still under contract with FOX - she can’t get involved actively until she out from under.

Hopefully, she’ll be free soon. I’m afraid, the way FOX is leaning now, they’d not let her out early in order to keep her from being active. When and if she does, things are going to get exciting.


65 posted on 12/18/2011 11:00:49 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow! Thanks for that link, Jim - got it cached and ready to use -

There’s this one also

http://mrctv.org/videos/mitt-romney-2002-my-views-are-progressive

Newt got a $20 million dollar donation for a PAC this last week - hope they use the clip you posted - OVER AND OVER RAND OVER - nothing like hearing it from the horses mouth.


66 posted on 12/18/2011 11:26:11 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: hosepipe

I agree. Maybe a Hawkish VP. Like Rubio who could make inroads into the Latino vote. Hell maybe we get Nueva York. I tell you with the recent legislation in the last week - ONE TRILLION DOLLAR stop gap budget measure, Internet Control bill, and the INDEFINITE DETENTION BILL! We need someone to fight for U.S., the individual American Citizen and his rights, not to mention his money.

I actually believe that this incredible spending spree we are see, all the while being covered by a smoke screen of Bi-Partisan lies about mandatory 10 year cuts and plans and SuperKommittees....is actually doing more damage to US than islum. IN FACT, it may be too late. This global monetary meltdown could create a tremendous international cry for a globlal currency and I don’t see any candidate who would stand up for US in that situation except old Ron Paul.


67 posted on 12/18/2011 11:28:39 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Jim Robinson

saved for later.


68 posted on 12/18/2011 11:51:43 PM PST by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Good for you ‘voting since Goldwater’-—I have voted since being in service during WW2—many candidates remarks have been ‘less than ideal’ but I can put up with one who at least knows history-—since they don’t teach history to our kids for many years I wonder just how much some of you young folks really know


69 posted on 12/19/2011 12:37:57 AM PST by cmomm44
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, like it or not, this race is narrowing down to Newt vs Romney.

Yep, but which of the below is Mitt and which is Newt?


70 posted on 12/19/2011 12:40:16 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be fooked.)
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks-—you put my thoughts into a simple few words-—too many Anericans on the dole (or take) and too many products of our Teachers Union schools for far too many years


71 posted on 12/19/2011 12:42:08 AM PST by cmomm44
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To: cmomm44
“Good for you ‘voting since Goldwater’-—I have voted since being in service during WW2—many candidates remarks have been ‘less than ideal’ but I can put up with one who at least knows history-—since they don’t teach history to our kids for many years I wonder just how much some of you young folks really know”

I wasn't quite old enough to vote during the Goldwater vs Johnson election, but I started watching the political conventions and listening to the debates since Nixon vs Kennedy.

I agree with you. At least some one who knows history may be able to avoid repeating it. I wonder if this person believes that anything McGovern or Dukakis said was stupid? I don't know - I think maybe Obama talking about 57 states might have been more stupid than what Newt said.

72 posted on 12/19/2011 1:09:04 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Jim Robinson; yup2394871293

Jim,

It is as obvious to you as it is to me. We have entirely too many folks here that only read headlines and drive-by banter instead of being curious enough to read the whole story to form their own informed opinion.

Yup,

Do yourself a favor and surprise us all by doing your own homework and required reading before your other shoe begins to taste better than your first. The answers to life are not multiple choice.


73 posted on 12/19/2011 3:26:31 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: wwcj

There won’t be a “next time”. We had this one, final glimmer.


74 posted on 12/19/2011 4:07:47 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Like it or not it is my choice to figure out how I feel either in the Kansas caucus if the race gets that far down the road and in the November election next year and see who I feel like voting for.

It won’t be anybody that is forced down my throat unless I have no choice. because right now i am left confused and unsold on the top five candidates.


75 posted on 12/19/2011 4:35:57 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: Jim Robinson

Tyrant’s Gun-WalkerAG:
"Tea Partyers Not Keen About GOP Presidential Field"?
It matters not.
Your King, like Pres. Carter, supports Romney.
Both are ineligible, lie ubiquitously,
support IAG and Sharia, and death panels."



76 posted on 12/19/2011 5:00:30 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Psalm 144
Stepping back, (and I am the Tea Party Leader so I can make such observations), the choices are being made for us as to which "conservative candidate" we should support. The article is correct, there isn't a lot of choice. I'm predicting "luke-warm" Tea Party support for any of the present field. But all of us in the Tea Party need to shift focus to the Senate and House contests. If we can control those houses, we can control any president. Look how taking the Senate has crippled Obama ... he's no longer "running" he's "hobbling". The Tea Party's focus must shift to the local contests ... these are closer to where the voters are and can be influenced more significantly than the media controlled national election. Typical Tea Party support and excitement will ignite the local contests.

Example: in S Carolina, if Graham were up for election (and he is not) ... where would the tea party focus? On Romney/Gingrich/Bachmann or on shutting down Graham? In this example, passion for the national election would pale to the fire and determination in the local election. I'm sure there are similar examples in many of the active local contests.

As the election draws near and the top slots are placed "for" us ... we will turn to what we can truly control ... the local elections. I predict the power of the Tea Party will be felt in this election at the local level where real power resides and where individuals still are more powerful than the media.

77 posted on 12/19/2011 6:30:51 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
And if you step a little further back, you'll see that local governments which are agencies of the state are rarely lobbied at the local level. Then State governments which are supposed to be autonamous under the 10th amendment are so beholden to federal largess and all of this is for a reason.

In Iowa, suppose that some special interest wanted something done state wide. It would make no sense for them to travel to each of the 99 county board of commissioners and try to get a majority vote. That would take forever, cost too much and would provide spotty success around the state.

The same problem would exist if they wanted national implementation the same thing nationally. It simply isn't cost effective and would not produce uniform implementation which would drive up admisitration expense.

So we end up with Sacramento and Washington DC as two of the world's most powerful cities. If you don't believe it, check out the 8,000+ Lobbyists headquartered in Sacramento and the over 17,000 Lobbyists inside the beltway in DC. The concentration of money and power have converted our country from a "bottom up" power train, to a tyranical "top down" power train that provides a "gravy train" for CONgressional leaders and Presidents.

So this is why we've lost control of our big government and are only able to cause locals to do our bidding if only someone would actually pay attention to politics locally. They don't because local electeds are nearly as powerless as the people in their jurisdiction. What ever power they have is routinely ursuped by either state or national government, or both!!!

I know this is true because I've been there and done that in local governmentl and it is truly depressing. It is truly a thankless job and it shouldn't be. Oh well... Please don't let this discourage you or your Tea Party members from the challenge this presents, but don't just get some of them elected, then breathe a big sigh of relief thinking that you've got the job done. Stay with your candidate and attend the board meetings and then judge all that you have been expressing here. Support who you elect and lobby them to stand by their oath of office and things might start working up the line someday.

78 posted on 12/19/2011 9:34:27 AM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“But all of us in the Tea Party need to shift focus to the Senate and House contests. If we can control those houses, we can control any president.
...
I predict the power of the Tea Party will be felt in this election at the local level where real power resides and where individuals still are more powerful than the media.”

All well and good and in fact necessary. However, the Tea Party House and Senate buckets will still have holes in the bottom if Boehner and McConnell remain in place to negotiate surrenders. They will do their utmost to preserve the 2006 - 2008 status quo, IMO.


79 posted on 12/19/2011 9:56:23 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m still behind Gingrich. Seems something has to go our way...What if Bush gets in? (I really think Bushes are establishment types)
What if he wants Condi for VP?
Yep, listening to Rush right now and weird stuff is afoot. I used to be a Condi fan, but she hangs out at universities too much...too much “bubble thinking”...

Ugh, my head is spinning.

Well, we have to vote against Obama and can’t “stay home”; I part ways with those who will stay home.


80 posted on 12/19/2011 11:15:04 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: mazda77

In the case of voting for the next Republican nominee, they almost certainly are.


81 posted on 12/19/2011 2:41:59 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: Jim Robinson
From your link:

For his part, when Franklin Delano Roosevelt found the Supreme Court consistently throwing out New Deal legislation, he attempted to pack the Court with additional Supreme Court justices. While Roosevelt ultimately lost the battle in Congress, the assault had so intimidated the conservative justices that they shifted their opinions dramatically to accommodate the views of the vast majority of the American people as expressed in their votes for president and Congress. Roosevelt lost the battle but won the war.

Roosevelt was wrong, and so is Newt Gingrich.
82 posted on 12/19/2011 4:23:51 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: maine-iac7

Which constitution are you talking about? The federal constitution or the constitutions of the states in question?


83 posted on 12/19/2011 4:35:15 PM PST by yup2394871293
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