Skip to comments.GOP will take off the gloves if Ron Paul wins Iowa
Posted on 12/18/2011 9:57:35 PM PST by Fred
The Republican presidential primary has become a bit feisty, but it will get downright ugly if Ron Paul wins the Iowa caucuses.
The principled, antiwar, Constitution-obeying, Fed-hating, libertarian Republican congressman from Texas stands firmly outside the bounds of permissible dissent as drawn by either the Republican establishment or the mainstream media. (Disclosure: Paul wrote the foreword to my 2009 book.)
But in a crowded GOP field currently led by a collapsing Newt Gingrich and an uninspiring Mitt Romney, Paul could carry the Iowa caucuses, where supporter enthusiasm has so much value.
If Paul wins, how will the media and the GOP react? Much of the media will ignore him (expect headlines like "Romney Beats out Gingrich for Second Place in Iowa"). Some in the Republican establishment and the conservative media will panic. Others will calmly move to crush him, with the full cooperation of the liberal mainstream media.
For a historical analogy, study the aftermath of Pat Buchanan's 1996
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Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola.
“Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys aint gonna win shinola.”
Based on his recent comments, Paul is trying to win a book contract to write the next “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”
(Disclosure: Paul wrote the foreword to my 2009 book.)
Thanks. We will all move along now.
Iowa has a pretty crappy track record of predicting nominees. A Paul win ther won’t mean much.
He forgot racist, anti-Semitic, Jew-hating, isolationist and 9-11 Truther.
The idea of the RNC getting serious and playing hardball is about as comical as the notion of Ron Paul actually winning Iowa...
The GOP has yet to take off its gloves against Ron Paul because they WANT him to beat Gingrich there.
Newt has to win 2 of the first 3, plus Florida. Otherwise this could get complicated.
We know that Ron Paul is not going to get the nomination. But, will his supporters rebel and stay home on election day or will they support the eventual nominee?
Well if the Republican Party takes “its gloves off to crush” the best & only chance they have of wining the Presidential election then the conservative base will take their gloves off & abandon the party in droves & will work to elect & even more conservative candidate. I do not think they will like that too much so they should reconsider.
You are keeeeerect.
Even better yet the GOP is hoping that Newt and Ron Paul will split a chunk of the conservative vote and let Romney sneak in an unexpected Iowa win.
If you are insinuating that Paul is a conservative and the base supports him, you are as delusional as he is.
Paul is not a conservative.
Jumping in the middle of your discussion here, but to the libs, living in LA LA land, they are thinking of RP as a conservative splitting the conservative vote. I know, I know, they are delusional.
I know a Ron Paul supporter and he’ll sit out the election if Paul isn’t the nominee.
“the conservative base will take their gloves off & abandon the party in droves & will work to elect & even more conservative candidate.”
This is pretty much a foregone conclusion regardless.
I am not sure what Paul’s political realm is. he is certainly an odd ball.
The GOP has painted itself into a corner now though. They can elect Romney or Newt. November will not be pretty. The more conservative tea party people I speak with the more I get the feeling that the GOP is pretty much screwed if it thinks it can count on the base.
A third party revolution is brewing and the GOP, being the stupid party, is about to get blind sided.
Some will, some won’t.
A lot of his supporters are libertarians and/or youth. The libertarians will fall in line with the GOP nominee UNLESS there is a strong independent run by someone (ie: Gary Johnson). The youth voters are more problematic. Historically they only turn out to vote if they are passionate about a candidate...that’s true with both liberal and conservative youth.
LOL They don’t have gloves unless it’s the white kind to test the dirt on your furniture.
Evil voodoo worshiping weirdos from Texas keep voting for this guy!
We don’t need to worry about that. He gets his greatest strength from 3 camps. Young voters (who don’t show up reliably), disaffected Democrats who feel betrayed, and hard line libertarians/conservatives who like his limited government approach and don’t see that anywhere else. None of those voters are headed back to Obama. I’d be 100% behind Paul if he wasn’t caught up in the moral equivalence crap defending Iran, etc.
I’m hoping Bachmann or Perry come back but we are headed toward an even messier primary season. I’m betting a lot of people are wishing Palin had ran after all. I can’t get a good feel at all which one of these people will win the nomination. This is most certainly a different kind of election.
“Iowa has a pretty crappy track record of predicting nominees. A Paul win ther wont mean much.”
Paul would be a better choice than Mittens. Even though Paul’s crazy, I at least agree with him on some things...
Newt is who we need though.
I remember well how the smear machine kicked in after Buchanan won the 1996 New Hampshire primary. I was reminded of it often when Sarah Palin was being savaged in 2008.
If Newt continues to fall in the polls and looks like he’s “going south”, I’m gonna start rooting for Rick Santorum.
Ron Paul is a republican.
Wait! So is Tom McClintock.
McClintock was thrown away so the GOP, globalist occupied party, could run a globalist, Schwarzenegger, for California governor.
Will they conduct the same war against the opposition to globalism in this election? You betcha!
“He forgot racist, anti-Semitic, Jew-hating, isolationist and 9-11 Truther.”
Not to mention “Asshole.”
GOP. Globalist Occupied Party.
It seems to me that so far it’s going just the way the RINOs, or should I at this point in history just say the Republican establishment, want it to go, which is to leave Romney standing when the smoke clears, just as they did with McCain. If they manage this result, they’re going to get the same result in the general election tht they got with McCain, only worse. They must know this, as another poster said, I’m starting to wonder if they care, what in the world is going on.
Meh, even if he wins Iowa he’s going nowhere so I doubt they’ll get in too much of a twist.
Well said. Globalist, statist, big government. We have two different flavors of the same thing.
Well...that's pretty much all we need as far as gauging the credibility of this article.
PAul should not be allowed in the republican primaries, since HE DID NOT SUPPORT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN 2008.
“Historically they only turn out to vote if they are passionate about a candidate...thats true with both liberal and conservative youth.”
Then we need to convince the conservative youth that sitting home in 2012 will lead them to starvation, a land ruled by sharia / communists, or the gulags.
Do you think Schwarzenegger was really a republican?
I just wish the GOP would take the gloves off with obama.
And what the hell is so "conservative" about that?
Then you probably wouldn't like his book much, either.
I've talked with over a dozen Ron Paul supporters since 2007 and I have yet to meet one who WON'T sit out the election if Ron Paul isn't the nominee. The cult of "Dr. Paul" is nuttier than he is.
I’m still quite pissed by that to this day. Pissed me off to no end what they did to McClintock.
There was GOP candidate in 2008?
When it comes to anti-RINOs, the RNC is the meanest SOB on the block...so long as those anti-RINOs are Republicans. Against Obama, McCain and the RNC were following Lady Marquess of Queensberry rules; against JD Hayworth, they couldn't do enough kicking and gouging.
They don’t need gloves they need ba!!s...
Ron Paul is to the GOP what Dennis Kucinich is to the Dems.
Spot on. The Republican party gets my vote simply because it is more fiscally conservative than the others. But, I hang my head in shame at their woos attitude of defending themselves. They are so darn PC and anti attack that they always allow the Dumb-o-crats to define them.
I also know 3 of them and they all voted for bimbo the last time.
I think "complicated" is baked into the pie this time around.
Face it—the elitist GOP will take off their gloves if anybody but romney wins that caucus.
Some folks wouldn't recognize a conservative if they tripped over one.
“I am not sure what Pauls political realm is. he is certainly an odd ball.”
Look up Lyndon LaRouche in old archives.
His young supporters remind me of the LaRouche acolytes of yore in their firm belief in their hero and their dismissal of any rational discussion of his excesses.