So your philosophy is that the RAPED WOMAN is merely a toaster that pops out a baby, with no rights, needs or even potential damage emotionally or mentally from the rape, that matters (and probably even physically as long as she technically survives) and certainly no right over deciding whether a baby can take over her body for nine months without her consent, or her life for decades after, without her consent.
BUT - lemme guess here - mothers, and motherhood itself, is of sacred value to you because of those non-physical intangible mental and emotional qualities of love and acceptance precisely because they are not imposed upon a mother like slavery, but offered voluntarily by the mother to the child out of sheer love.
Oh, and one more thing - nuance and conditions are bullshit when it comes to rape and pregancy, because murder is murder. But if you carry a gun and use it for self-defesne, then it's not murder because of nuance and conditions. Right?
I guess it's not hypocrisy if you can sleep at night. And, of course, there are drugs for that (prescription, of course, otherwise its a crime that should be punished to the full extent of the law).
IBTZ.
Rape is not a capital crime for the criminal, why do you believe it should be for a baby?
BUT - lemme guess here - mothers, and motherhood itself, is of sacred value to you because of those non-physical intangible mental and emotional qualities of love and acceptance precisely because they are not imposed upon a mother like slavery, but offered voluntarily by the mother to the child out of sheer love.
So, motherhood is like "slavery"? By your logic, any woman who doesn't want to be pregnant should be allowed to have an abortion, rape or not.
Get a grip.
A baby is a separate human being with it’s own DNA from the moment of conception, regardless of the circumstances surrounding that conception. People with your mentality belong living in China, not the U.S or any other civilized nation that recognizes human right.
No one has a right to an abortion even a woman victimized by rape. But everyone does have the right to life.
Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of women who have had abortion due to rape express their deep regret over their “choice”.
You need the zot, you death troll.
Typical pro-abortion lie.
Someone else can raise the baby.
>> So your philosophy is that the RAPED WOMAN is merely a toaster that pops out a baby,
Giving attention to the moral disparity in resolving degenerate impregnation with the interests of the noob shouldn’t be framed as an attack against the mother.
If you’re going to support abortion you’re going to have to leave FR. Continue doing so, you’ll be shown the door.
A fine example of a straw-man argument: set up a crude and outrageous statement that the other person did not make, and then knock it down.
From my experience in doing women's shelter work, I can tell you that if a woman is raped and gets pregnant, caring, organized, warm and responsive help is available (counseling services, pro-life pregnancy centers and so forth) will give her intensive support for 9 months ---and beyond, whether she decides to raise the child herself or place the child in the loving arms of adoptive parents she has chosen.
This is just the process a traumatized woman needs: ongoing, sensitive and supportive care for both herself and her child.
What a woman in such circumstances needs is peace and practical support. Her inward self has already been invaded with the intention of sexual assault. She does not need to be invaded again with the intention of homicide.
Abortion in such circumstances will profoundly assail a woman's innate sense of justice, since she knows she is not striking out against the brute who victimized her, but against her own blameless and vulnerable child.
A friend of mine who, as a medical student, assisted in abortion at Bronx Padiatric in the 1970's (yes, a pediatric hospital: all the pregnant patients were minors) was deeply discouraged to find that abortion did not provide the emotional relief that was hoped for in the case of girls pregnant by rape/incest. Psychological sequelae for young women who aborted, were as bad or worse than for those who gave birth.
They did not find abortion a simple therapeutic release from a conflict pregnancy. They found it a compounding factor for depression, self-hurt and self-rejection.
Look and listen, Talisker. There's something to learn here.
You have no clue about rape or about pregnancy. The abortion is like a second rape, and too often not the woman’s choice, but imposed on her by others who expect her to abort. Some may actually believe she’d abort if she had been raped and doubt her story if she doesn’t. Husbands, fathers, boyfriends will pressure her to get rid of the other man’s child, more to satisfy their needs than hers.
Worse, abortion is a male solution, not a female solution. It’s truly invasive instrumentalization of the woman’s body to remove the supposed “invader.”
She knows that the embryo is her own child, and she will always wonder about him or her.
There may be times when a woman can not live with the knowledge that she’s carrying the rapist’s child. She may actually be suicidal. Those are times for more help, not for another knee-jerk male response.