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To: CharlesWayneCT

“So, if you vaccinated the entire population of women (150 million), and if you believe that the unverified VAERS reports accurately reflect REAL side effects specifically caused by the shots, you would expect 382 women to die, another 220,000 to have serious side effects.”

Which is why it’s a good thing that Gardasil is untested on people. We are only just now catching the side effects of Gardasil.

“Now, HPV causes 70% of all cervical cancer. Gardasil prevents 70% of those, or about 49% of all cervical cancer. 3800 women die in the U.S. from cervical cancer each year, so if we vaccinated every woman, we could expect to save 1,900 lives a year, at a cost of 382 one-time deaths from the vaccine.”

If you vaccinated 80 percent of the population you’d see no appreciable decline in cervical cancer rates. So you’d see 350 women die and zero saved.

You’re not going to get 100 percent, Charles, not without making it mandatory. And you’re not going to be able to make the vaccine mandatory, when it’s not a communicable disease.

“As to “100% of the time” protection, yes, if you are a Nun in a monestery, and completely protected from any chance of a man ever raping you, then you are 100% protected.”

Which is why we need to make people have the shot, just so people can be sure that they are protected without having to care about whom they are having sex with.

“So yes, if you don’t want to risk the vaccine, you can refrain from sex, or be very careful about it. That is a choice for a woman to make,”

So the men don’t have any role in trasmission? Why then are we seeing the push to vaccinate men? If it’s not a man’s decision, then we should not be vaccinating them, especially given the negative side effects.


50 posted on 12/22/2011 7:42:50 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
Which is why we need to make people have the shot

I was afraid of this. I'm not arguing for a mandatory vaccination policy. I'm arguing that the VAERS data does not indicate the vaccine is dangerous. I might think that 100% vaccination would be a good thing, but I also don't believe we should make people get vaccinated just because it would be helpful to others who want to have risky sex.

Let those who want to engage in behavior decide for themselves if they want some protection. I obviously disagree with your contention that an 80% vaccination rate would somehow hit only the population that wasn't going to get HPV anyway, and therefore wouldn't help the death rate. In any case, my hypothetical was assuming a 100% rate of vaccination, because it was a hypothetical to compare the rate of reported side effects vs the expected benefits.

60 posted on 12/22/2011 8:53:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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