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House Republicans Cave on Payroll Tax Cut Extension (Time for McConnell and Boehner to leave)
abc ^ | 12/22/2011 | By JONATHAN KARL (@jonkarl) , JOHN PARKINSON (@JParkABC) and HUMA KHAN

Posted on 12/22/2011 7:37:30 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: Sacajaweau

Dead on correct. The Senate “deal” included 1.)extension of unemployment comp 2.) requiring the presentdent to decide on the pipeline in 60 day (which he won’t do, and therefore skate on that part of the lousy deal) 3.) prevention of a reduction in Medicare payments to physicians beginning Jan 1- the early start of obamacare,,,,and the coup de grace— the two month “extension” (ie w/in the 60 days obama is to decide on the pipeline) of the payroll tax withholding for FICA/SS and Medicare.

The fact is the “FICA tax cut”, while putting very little money on the street (to a limited number of people), it also is further eroding the supposed funding of Medicare and SS from current worker payroll (an erosion made all the worse by the fact there are many unemployed,and thus less funding as well).

All in all this points out how disgusting democrats are— they STILL have not presented a budget and defeated obamas completely. The country is headed for Cloward Piven breakdown and the democrats are eager for it. Repubs must show some fortitude—and call them on all this— the jobs, the ruination of SS (a sacred cow that must be fed), and obamacare. They should direct the language—”we were glad to cave in to prevent the American people from having to return to living in caves when the democrats get done.”


21 posted on 12/22/2011 8:11:32 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tobyhill

Well nobama will get to Hawaii in time to celebrate Christmas.


22 posted on 12/22/2011 8:23:27 PM PST by tillacum
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To: tobyhill

I’ve defended Boehner up to now. No more. This was sheer foolishness.


23 posted on 12/22/2011 8:27:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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To: mrsmith

Sarah Palin and Marco Rubio with the Tea Party behind them.

Take everything.


24 posted on 12/22/2011 8:30:04 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the media, you control its citizens.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Take the House.
About 40 more seats would give us a Tea Party Speaker.
That’s very doable.


25 posted on 12/22/2011 8:34:42 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' House Speaker in 2012 now!)
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To: tobyhill

Boehner and McConnell have got to go and real soon.


26 posted on 12/22/2011 8:46:03 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tobyhill

this could turn out to be a good deal.


27 posted on 12/22/2011 8:56:51 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: tobyhill

What a bunch of butt holes. This entire ‘leadership’ team has absolutely no sense of ‘leadership’. They are one big waste. Not even earning an honest day’s pay for their roles. Good grief, I would trade away their seats and political careers away to RATs, in return for one honest conservative LEADER!


28 posted on 12/22/2011 9:27:22 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: tillacum
Will either of them remove the tzars put in place by nobama? Will they remove any of the “civil servants” put into place by the faithful muslims in Homeland Security? Will they remove the “civil servants” put into place by Eric Holder in the Justice Department? How many other heads of departments in our governments have nobama’s appointmentees put into civil servant employment?

I believe the tzars will go because they are so visible but the others stay. Drip by drip by drip until today we find there no America or constitution.

29 posted on 12/22/2011 9:37:11 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: tennmountainman
Bonehead wants to depress conservative voters in the coming elections. Less new Tea Party Congresscritters means he keeps his job. A BIG new batch of Tea Partier Congresscritters and he’s a goner.

Not a bad analysis. Makes more sense now.

30 posted on 12/22/2011 9:42:44 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Big Horn
this could turn out to be a good deal.

It looks like you stand alone on this one. I don't think this will be a bad deal, necessarily, but that is contingent on what happens in the next couple of months. Most non-FR folks won't remember this past this weekend, if they were even paying attention. But the GOP leadership's track record is not a very good one, so I don't think there is a reason to be hopeful.

31 posted on 12/22/2011 9:49:41 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (The Chicago Way isn't the American Way.)
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To: tobyhill

This never should have gotten to the point for us to cave on anything. They should have just passed a clean bill and got it over with from the very start - it wasn’t the right battle to wage at this time, and they played right into the Democrats’ hands. Obama’s approval numbers improved, and they gave him an opening he couldn’t create for himself to increase his stature. This was totally ridiculous. They completely lost control of the dialog and this time the MSM didn’t even have to assist with any bias - they just flubbed it themselves.


32 posted on 12/22/2011 10:02:29 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: tobyhill

I notice they waited until Rush went on Christmas vacation.


34 posted on 12/22/2011 10:55:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Sacajaweau

IMO the dims want to keep this in the news ... what better way than to have to vote on it every couple of months, continually reminding their followers that they are looking out for the little guy.

They are also attaching poison pills to these revotes so the GOP has to drag their feet, vote against etc. Our guys need to be explaining the dim strategy to the electorate - how costly and time consuming, if nothing else, it is to deal with this several times a year.

They don’t of course. Or the media is spiking our side of it.


35 posted on 12/22/2011 11:31:27 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Sacajaweau

IMO the dims want to keep this in the news ... what better way than to have to vote on it every couple of months, continually reminding their followers that they are looking out for the little guy.

They are also attaching poison pills to these revotes so the GOP has to drag their feet, vote against etc. Our guys need to be explaining the dim strategy to the electorate - how costly and time consuming, if nothing else, it is to deal with this several times a year.

They don’t of course. Or the media is spiking our side of it.

Also need to be hitting that the same little guys will not qualify for as much in benefits because they aren’t paying as much into ss.


36 posted on 12/22/2011 11:34:14 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: NYCslicker

Blame this on Mitch McConnell for cavingin the senate. He set Boehner up on this deal.


37 posted on 12/22/2011 11:40:19 PM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: tobyhill; NYCslicker; Keith in Iowa; Froggie; Sacajaweau; tillacum; Brimack34; Usagi_yo; RitaOK; ...

I’m glad they “caved”

Here’s why:
“I am in favor of cutting taxes under any circumstances and for any excuse, for any reason, whenever it’s possible.” - Milton Friedman.

TAXES ARE TOO HIGH. I don’t care who is proposing a tax cut — even if it’s coming from the devil himself — count me as a supporter. The idea that the GOP was ever opposed to payroll tax cut was INSANE!


38 posted on 12/22/2011 11:51:01 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Lancey Howard

The removal of the FICA contribution through payroll decuction should have never been called a “tax cut”. It should have been captioned
US Quits FICA Payroll Deductions
Your contribution to your social security will no longer be taken out of your paycheck..... and construct the story from that viewpoint

But you see the whores in the media and its camp followers on the talk show circut some subbing for the big names did not approach it that way.


39 posted on 12/23/2011 12:04:10 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: mosesdapoet
The removal of the FICA contribution through payroll decuction should have never been called a “tax cut”. It should have been captioned US Quits FICA Payroll Deductions Stealing From the "Lockbox".

Shove their own words back at them whenever possible.

40 posted on 12/23/2011 12:10:48 AM PST by Mycroft Holmes (Returned for regrooving...)
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