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BREAKING: Perry disqualified from Va. primary ballot
washingtonpost.com ^ | 12/23/2011 | Anita Kumar

Posted on 12/23/2011 3:44:52 PM PST by TBBT

Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry failed to submit enough valid signatures to qualify for the Virginia primary ballot, state GOP officials said Friday evening.

Perry’s campaign told state election officials it had submitted 11,911 signatures, but a Virginia Republican familiar with the situation said that the Texas governor did not submit the required 10,000.

Earlier Friday, the Republican Party of Virginia certified former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.) to appear in the March ballot.

Four candidates — Romney, Perry, Paul and former House speaker Newt Gingrich — turned in thousands of signatures by the deadline. State party officials are spending the day certifying the signataries.

They have not examined Gingrich’s signatures yet, but expected to do so by late Friday night.

Candidates had until 5 p.m. to collect 10,000 signatures from across the state, including 400 from each congressional district.

Republican presidential candidates Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum did not submit signatures, according to state GOP officials

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To: mnehring
Not good. Who is in charge of ‘disqualifying’ signatures. A 10% buffer seems enough to take into account some bad ones.

Can't speak for Virginia but the general rule of thumb is to have 30% above the required number of signatures here in the People's Socialist RepuliK of Illannoyed in order to survive any ballot challenges.

My own opinion is going in with anything less than that is a fools errand as it's so easy to find bad signatures or duplicate signatures (same signature on different candidate ballots) which are easy enough ti disqualify. In a race like this, it's a whole other game when candidates begin challenging each other's petitions too. In heavily contested races, having 50% more than required is considered safe.

Once again, Perry appears to be taking a hit because of his own staff's incompetence.

51 posted on 12/23/2011 4:17:19 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: hattend
WINNER! That's exactly how the 0 does it! He has a record of doing that very thing. He'll peel off any candidates he considers dangerous one at a time and perhaps we'll end up with Ron Paul, or ?
52 posted on 12/23/2011 4:18:46 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: usconservative

Newt actually submitted less signatures than Perry according to the original report. Guess he checked them more carefully.

Sorry, Perry-ites, but there’s no conspiracy here. It’s obviously difficult to get on these ballots, otherwise any old joker could. This is a proper part of the weeding out process. These candidates have had plenty of time and opportunity to drum up support and they couldn’t do it in time. Not saying they can’t make a comeback, but we can’t have just anyone running for president and getting on the ballot or it would be chaos. You need to have some real support behind you to make yourself a credible candidate.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2824073/posts?page=1

Romney submitted 16,026 signatures; Paul 14,361; Perry 11,911 and Gingrich 11,050.


53 posted on 12/23/2011 4:22:52 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: JediJones

well, Sabato’s tweet also said that Newt is likely to be tossed out later tonight so I wouldn’t go counting any chickens just yet


54 posted on 12/23/2011 4:24:20 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: JediJones

Newts signatures haven’t been validated yet.


55 posted on 12/23/2011 4:24:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JediJones

It is more likely a matter of doing “streetcorner signatures” instead of buying a copy of the voter registration list from the state.


56 posted on 12/23/2011 4:24:46 PM PST by TitansAFC (Mitt Romney gets less bang for the buck than John-Freaking-Huntsman.)
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To: mylife

Are they land owners? /s


57 posted on 12/23/2011 4:24:54 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: mnehring
To quote what someone else said abut Bachmann and Santorum:

If they can't meet the minimal qualifications for a state primary, they shouldn't be charged with running a country.

Oh the irony!

58 posted on 12/23/2011 4:24:59 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: JediJones

It’s reported that it will be announced later tonight if Newt met the requirement.


59 posted on 12/23/2011 4:25:22 PM PST by TBBT
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To: ak267

Newt had less signatures than Perry did.

So he may be off the ballot too.

That would leave Romney and Ron Paul on VA Ballot.


60 posted on 12/23/2011 4:25:59 PM PST by TexMom7
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To: JediJones
Sorry, Perry-ites, but there’s no conspiracy here.

I wasn't suggesting there was a conspiracy, rather outright incompetence on the part of the campaign.

61 posted on 12/23/2011 4:26:31 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: JediJones
They have not examined Gingrich’s signatures yet, but expected to do so by late Friday night.
62 posted on 12/23/2011 4:26:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JediJones

Don’t think they have checked Newt’s signatures yet. Same thing could happen to him.


63 posted on 12/23/2011 4:27:54 PM PST by tirednvirginia ( A)
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To: Cvengr

Are any of us truly landowners? /s


64 posted on 12/23/2011 4:28:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TBBT

But didn’t the Great Larry Sabato promise us the RPV would turn a blind eye to any deficits in the petition signatures?

11K that Perry and Gingrich submitted was cutting it awfully close.


65 posted on 12/23/2011 4:28:39 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: TBBT
WOW!


No it's another

OOPS

But VA has strict rules they follow and it takes effort to make sure you have qualified voters to sign the petition. Submitting a bunch of names without verifications is a crap shoot at best.

66 posted on 12/23/2011 4:28:53 PM PST by deport
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To: EDINVA

Closer to 12K for Perry.


67 posted on 12/23/2011 4:30:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TBBT

I have not been a Perry fan, but this is BS. I am sure he had enough.

Obozo and Hildebeast are proven cheaters in Indiana from 2008, but who is running things and why are they still running things when they cheated to qualify?


68 posted on 12/23/2011 4:30:49 PM PST by dforest
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

While your comment is funny - if not very fair - you do raise and interesting point.

I’m sure Perry is a fine man. He’s certainly not done a bad job as Texas governor.

But what is it about my adopted home state that causes such horrifically inarticulate people to ascend to governor. Bush wasn’t this bad, admitttedly, but still.

I promise you we have well-spoken, intelligent conservatives here in abundance. My own congresscritter, Louis Goehmert, for example, is wonderful. For some reason, though, we’ve had 20 years worth of governors who are, shall we say, severely oratorically challenged.

Odd.

Hank


69 posted on 12/23/2011 4:32:50 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away. Num)
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To: mylife

Rut Row....


70 posted on 12/23/2011 4:32:55 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Happy Rain

You’re an idiot. Ignore: ON


71 posted on 12/23/2011 4:35:00 PM PST by Clara Lou (nObama, noRomney, noPaul, noBachmann . . .)
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To: TBBT

So VA going to hand the VA primary to Romney?

Disgusting.


72 posted on 12/23/2011 4:35:44 PM PST by marty60
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To: TBBT

Helps Newt, IMO.


73 posted on 12/23/2011 4:35:54 PM PST by fhayek
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To: TBBT

I heard Faux news announce this. Says it’s by the VA GOP.

My guess, Gingrich won’t quaify either come Monday.


74 posted on 12/23/2011 4:36:36 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Gator113

Funny that they know for certain that 1,912 signatures were not legit, but they have no count for how many were..

Hmmmmm...
Was it 9,999?
Hmmmm...

Were the heck is Herman Cain!
I want to know who knew what and who knew it when!


75 posted on 12/23/2011 4:38:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TBBT

Everyone claims about the Virginia rules and that’s why folks don’t bother.


76 posted on 12/23/2011 4:39:15 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: mylife

LMAO


77 posted on 12/23/2011 4:40:35 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: TBBT

Romney has already bought the support he needs. Why is everybody still pretending the Republican primary is any sort of legitimate contest?


78 posted on 12/23/2011 4:41:00 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: TBBT

Maybe Perry will get “Amnesty” from the VA GOP?


79 posted on 12/23/2011 4:42:28 PM PST by RealImmigrant (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: marty60

So VA going to hand the VA primary to Romney?


Depending upon how Gingrich comes out with valid signatures it will be either a two or three person primary contesting the 50 Virginia delegates.

Romney and Paul have qualified with Gingrich’s petitions being certified.

50 Virginia delegates up for grabs amongst the


80 posted on 12/23/2011 4:42:51 PM PST by deport
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To: Gator113
All you can do is smile ☺

This election is such a goat rope!

81 posted on 12/23/2011 4:43:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

What a clusterfark.

So far, only Romney and the Romulan are qualified to be on the ballot in the VA primary. Bachmann, Santorum and Huntsman didn’t even try. Gingrich’s signatures are still being validated, and he may or may not qualify. Perry has been disqualified, unless this report turns out to be discredited.

Weird.


82 posted on 12/23/2011 4:44:22 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: TBBT
Signatures to get on the ballot are just one of many hurdles the elite have put in the way to protect themselves. It usually is just a matter of money, which Perry has/had plenty of, therefore, he seems to have tripped on the first hurdle. It does not speak well for him or his campaign.
83 posted on 12/23/2011 4:44:22 PM PST by Jay Redhawk
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To: Happy Rain
Good enough for Texas but then what ain't?

You

84 posted on 12/23/2011 4:44:54 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: mylife

LOL... goat rope works, but I think more in terms of a monkey and a football. ;>)


85 posted on 12/23/2011 4:47:11 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: TexMom7

“That would leave Romney and Ron Paul on VA Ballot.”

There were a lot of Ron Paul people on the street corners in Ridgeland (Greater Jackson) Mississippi today. I don’t know for what particular reason, but they were out in force promoting their candidate. Very dedicated, all male, mixed races from early 20s to mid 50s in age. They appeared very motivated and confident.

Christmas traffic made for a lot of exposure too.


86 posted on 12/23/2011 4:47:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Gator113

Fair enough.


87 posted on 12/23/2011 4:47:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Well, it doesn’t matter how many signatures were submitted if fewer than 10K are registered VA voters. That is exactly why Romney and Paul submitted 15K or more.

Honestly, if this is true, it makes me sick. Perry’s ground troops let him down, big time. And he has support at the top levels of the RPV. I’ll wait, tho, until I hear from Pat Mullins, Chmn of the RPV, instead of WaPo and ABC echoing WaPo.

I hope these reports are wrong. If Perry is still in the race by March, VA has a very simple write-in, so all is not lost for his camp, tho this wouldn’t help either practically or as a perception of the campaign’s competence.


88 posted on 12/23/2011 4:48:39 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Happy Rain
"Good enough for Texas but then what ain't?"

You.
89 posted on 12/23/2011 4:49:35 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: lonevoice

“Weird.”

Very.


90 posted on 12/23/2011 4:49:38 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Happy Rain

Kiss my grits!


91 posted on 12/23/2011 4:51:10 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: EDINVA

Ats all very suspicious.


92 posted on 12/23/2011 4:52:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Happy Rain

Kinky Freidman.

He tries again every election though...


93 posted on 12/23/2011 4:52:40 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: mylife
VA is claiming that less than 10K of those signatures belong to REGISTERED voters.

How did they come to that conclusion so fast?

94 posted on 12/23/2011 4:53:02 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: RealImmigrant

“Maybe Perry will get “Amnesty” from the VA GOP?”

Perry knew the rules and I doubt they will be willing to bend the rules and use Affirimative Action to help Perry.


95 posted on 12/23/2011 4:53:50 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his name on the Va. ballot, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: mnehring

All the states should have their primary on the same day. I don’t like other states, the media, or anyone else picking my candidate for me.


96 posted on 12/23/2011 4:54:07 PM PST by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: EDINVA

What’s also curious is that this VA news is dropped on friday night going into the holidays, on the week before Iowa.

Why drop this news now?
To detract from gains in Iowa? Where Perry is gaining ground?


97 posted on 12/23/2011 4:55:07 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lonestar

Good question.


98 posted on 12/23/2011 4:56:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Psalm 144

Cult members generally are “very motivated and confident.”


99 posted on 12/23/2011 4:56:58 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: chemicalman

And this “open” primary stuff is a sham.


100 posted on 12/23/2011 4:58:42 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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