Skip to comments.Gingrich’s Ballot Miss Could Shake Voters’ Confidence [Sabato: "It's A Disaster For Him"]
Posted on 12/24/2011 1:01:00 PM PST by Steelfish
Gingrichs Ballot Miss Could Shake Voters Confidence
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE December 24, 2011
Newt Gingrich declared confidently the other day that he would get his name on the ballot for the Republican presidential primary in Virginia. In fact, he said he already had the requisite 10,000 signatures and an additional 2,000 to 3,000 for safetys sake and would probably collect even more. Related
But that turned out not to be the case. In the wee hours of Saturday morning, the Virginia Republican Party announced via Twitter that Mr. Gingrich had failed to submit enough signatures by the Thursday deadline, highlighting the organizational challenges to his campaign and raising questions about his prospects in a drawn-out nominating fight.
Many of the Gingrich campaigns signatures were apparently invalid, which is why most campaigns try to collect almost twice as many as needed. Gov. Rick Perry of Texas and Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota also failed to make the grade.
The Gingrich campaign said it would work with the Republican Party of Virginia to pursue a write-in campaign, but Virginia does not allow write-in names in its primaries.
Voters deserve the right to vote for any top contender, especially leading candidates, Michael Krull, Mr. Gingrichs campaign director, said in a statement.
This misstep is bad news for Mr. Gingrich on several levels. Virginia is his adopted home state. Failing to gather enough signatures in your own backyard creates an image problem, at the very least.
Its a disaster for him, said Larry J. Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. This sends yet another signal to Republicans that Gingrich is not able to organize.
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This is the same Larry Sabato who told the world just Thursday night that the RPV would ‘turn a blind eye’ to any deficits in the petitions just to get everyone on the ballot. Has Sabato ever been right about anything?
The column author seems not to know that Bachmann didn’t even submit petitions. All they want is the headline and to make Rs think Newt’s just not up to the job. This R ain’t buying.
Hey, Newt’s (and Perry’s) ground troops in VA screwed up ... it’s not the end of the world or their campaigns. There are 10 other contests the same day. If either survives and goes on to win the nomination, you can bet your bottom dollar he will have an extremely well organized campaign in VA .. this is a painful but not fatal setack.
Our only hope is to wrest control from the entrenched elite.
The third-party route is doomed to failure. The Libertarians have been trying it for decades.
We have to kick the RINOs out and take over.
There is no other way.
yes and no...It is said here in Indiana that several of our districts did not put Obama on the ballot last election, too many Donald Ducks and Mickey mouses (or would that be mice) on the ballot for comfort...yet there he was.Pathetic
I believe that in Indiana there has to be X number in each congressional district....much more difficult!!
Perry and Newt turned in more than 10,000 but less than that were alid...it the way I understand it.
Perry turned in almost 12,000...more than Newt turned in.
no one did it, the two who made it were grandfathered in from the 2008 election
That seems bizarre.
Why had the RPV not checked and matched addresses in prior primaries? Thousands of Virginia voters signed the petition in good faith, and now their intention is ignored by the state - a move that is beyond me. Perry and Gingrich both had over 10,000 signatures, and for some reason the RPV found about 2,000 signatures in each case without matching addresses. So now the voters of Virginia have a needlessly limited choice in the GOP primary: their choice is limited to one of two candidates, the flip-flopper or the kook.
Hey dogz, isnt it time to update your tagline to include Gingrich, Bachman, Santorum and Huntsman? I suppose you just have it in for Perry, even if the facts dont support your point.
It’s rather insane.
I agree. Its insane to have a primary with only 2 of the candidates on the ballot.
Romney is Hillary.
(And thus, will be even worse than the Puppet Spammer Appeaser.)
Inside the Beltway.
Sabato is right about this... it will hurt Newt and Perry in public perception, but most importantly, fundraising. Basically these candidates just threw out a big state. Makes the path to victory even harder. I think we will quickly see, the republican playmakers aligning with Romney pretty early in 2012.
I love Newt, but he has had too many organizational missteps. Romney will win the nomination.
Thank you for your comments.
You may be right. I am still not convinced he can gain the support of our party. Folks do not seem able to get behind him. He’s seen almost every other candidate come and go, but he’s still languishing.
Each time the support of the people who fall, seems to be disbursed to others.
We’ll see. You may be right. For the good of the nation, I hope you’re wrong.
Let me get this straight. Virginia has had this rule on the books for years and now to keep Newt & Rick off the ballot they enforce the rules “just this once”. Sorry but that sounds way too much like a conspiracy for me to believe. And for you to suggest I support selective enforcement is just plain wrong.
Right, the rule is the rule!
Rule is the pres must be a natural born citizen - born on US soil to 2 USA citizen parentS.
Your messiah soetoro/soebarkah/barry/shabbazz/bounel/bho IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN but he is the pres anyway and YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR RULE!
Ask your messiah to abide by the rules and then you can talk!
To all -
since we are talking about rules - R candidates who don’t submit enough ‘valid’ signatures get disqualified, fair enough. Now demand VA SOS and election officials enforce the rules that obumo has to prove beyond doubts that he was born on US soil to 2 USA citizen parents, i.e. he meets the article 2 pres requirement!
Gingrich, Perry, it is time to kick obumo off the ballot by demanding the states election officials vett obumo - does he meet the US constitutional requiremnet and the state’s own constitutional requirement to be the pres?!
They have never enforced it before, until Myth's people discovered it.
Isn't that special?
you need meds
Newt did not misstep. He did everything they required, in a state that has tailored their rules to give the advantage to the incumbent who has run in prior years. They threw out 2,000 signatures for Newt and Perry on lame technical grounds. (Which they have never done before)
In other words, wake up out of your coma! Newt and Perry did not “Just throw out a big state”. The Big State threw them out, for some highly controversial, and unfounded reasons. And why you fail to question it is very unsettling.
This will start heating up in the coming weeks. It needs to! Or we will lose to the GOP elite again!
It is also rather corrupt that the Lt. Governor is one of Romney's main campaign managers, and the Governor also loaned all sorts of help for Romney to get all the “i’s” dotted and the “T's” crossed months in advance.
Oh yes, we have NOT heard the last of this. Even FOX is starting to mention all this corruption among the Virginia RP.
The addresses are not a valid reason for disqualification.
A voter that has moved has up to a prescribed period before the next election to re-register, so thus the address is irrelevent for signature verification purposes.
The state election officials know this to be true, nevertheless they proceeded with this invalid issue to falsely deny their rights.
It is sad that this cannot be prosecuted in criminal courts.
The deep flaw in your reasoning is that the brokering proceeds behind closed doors.
It can only be done one delegate at a time on the floor.
>> “This is proof that the GOP elite are corrupt.” <<
Did we need any more of that?
As I said, the worst that happens is we get Willard, who we are going to get anyway.
Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
And don’t repeat unsourced, unverified anonymous claims from the internet, and call other people “clueless”.
Virginia has no “grandfather” clause for ballot access. Romney and Paul met the signature requirements.
I can guarantee you that if the situation was reversed, and it was Mitt and Gingrich, with Paul out, the Gingrich people would be defending the process, laughing about how stupid Perry was, and rejoicing that the “Paulistas” couldn’t even meet simple ballot requirements.
Heck, some of them were giddy when they found out Perry didn’t qualify, before they learned Gingrich didn’t. Then it was all “foul play”, and “we need to remove the governor from office”, and “people should go to jail”, and “we should occupy the RPV”.
I’m sick that Perry and Gingrich didn’t get on the ballot. But life goes on. Maybe the campaigns can find a way with the RPV to get on the ballot, and I’d be fine with that, but I don’t think they are entitled to it just because their supporters think so.