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Herman Cain: A Final Word (I just did not like the way the whole "Cain thing" went down)
American Thinker ^ | 12/26/2011 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 12/26/2011 6:36:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

I would not blame Herman Cain if he said, Lloyd, I know you mean well, brother. However, the relentless vitriolic media attacks against me have finally subsided since I dropped out of the presidential race. My family and I are finally having some peace. So why on earth would you bring up my name again?

Well, in a nutshell, I just did not like the way the whole "Cain thing" went down. Also, we live in a fast-paced news cycle, "carelessly nuke a person's life and in two days everyone has moved on," disposable world. Herman Cain's courageous bid to serve his country deserves more than "Cain...wasn't he the black dude sex fanatic who ran for president as a Republican?"

OK, Cain is gone, and we conservatives must focus on selecting our candidate to defeat Obama in 2012. I got it. But it breaks my heart, seeing what happened to this "good man." Cain was attacked from both sides of the aisle. A few conservative pundits even accused Cain of not seriously seeking the Oval Office, but instead simply seeking self-promotion.

Please do not get me wrong. I realize that playing with the big boys in the national arena is tough. I just did not realize how much tougher and how blatantly unfair it is for conservatives. As a conservative seeking to win the Republican presidential nomination, Cain endured a deep rectal vetting not required even of our current president. As a matter of fact, we still know very little about Obama's history.

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1 posted on 12/26/2011 6:36:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Gosh, I love ya Marcus, but what killed Cain was his refusal to deny the Ginger White stuff.
Then he just quit.
No one seriously believed Sharon Bialek, and as to the others there was no proof since the records were sealed.

Mr Cain gave validity to the Ginger White thing, that’s what did him in.
The appearance of impropriety.


3 posted on 12/26/2011 6:44:21 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeekAndFind
See a pattern, yet? Attacked from both sides of the aisle?

Eliminated from play?

Chicago methodology at work, eliminate all the competitors.

Alleged bimbos aside, I'd still vote for Cain if he was in.

4 posted on 12/26/2011 6:45:44 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: eastforker

No, in other words, nobody proved a darn thing and Cain was treated to a mugging by nefarious thugs who bought liars off to lie about Herman Cain all the while Mr. Nobody is reigning in the Oval Office COMPLETELY UNINVESTIGATED.

Who are you? You drank the koolaid.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 6:45:52 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mylife

Yes, when after Cain hired the most feared lawyer in the land, Cain then went into silence and not one suit flew - I realized what that meant, and took the “Yes We Cain” sticker off my car.

If Palin had entered this race, none of this would be happening right now.

I still strongly believe she should in fact run.

Even now Palin could win this thing. We’d all be a lot better for it, if she did.


6 posted on 12/26/2011 6:50:36 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: yldstrk

Do you honestly believe HC is the innocent goody two shoes he made himself out to be???Yes, the media is not investigating the annointed ONE, but it seems some citizens are doing just that. But anyone who think HC was presidential material was doing just that, drinking the koolade!


7 posted on 12/26/2011 6:51:04 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: yldstrk

I think most people don’t realize that anyone may be “Cained”, and too many people withdrew their support from him, which was a shame. He could have handled it better, and I don’t know if we’ll ever know the truth, but he was a danger because he wasn’t a black man holding out an upturned empty hand to white America - he was holding out ideas to all Americans.

He was TOO MUCH of an “anti-Obama” (including being “100% black”), and drew fire as such.


8 posted on 12/26/2011 6:53:32 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe Lloyd is describing perfectly how the media eagerly destroyed Herman Cain with dumpster diving for dirt.

Herman has lived an unusual life of accomplishment and a not-so-unusual life for a successful man in a post-womens’lib America.

Today - sexual predators wear pant suits and skirts and offer themselves to the highest bidder. They also lie.

Decent men don’t often see the threat - until it’s too late.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 6:54:30 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: eastforker

hey there, whether he was mugged and whether he was presidential material are TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT ISSUES.

Herman Cain was mugged by those who believe a black shouldn’t be ALLOWED to be conservative. Period.

So much for political freedom in the country.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 6:54:31 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

When Herman responded to the Ginger white thing by admitting he knew her for 13 years, was supporting her financially without the wifes knowledge and then responded to the story by saying repeatedly, the well parsed words: “MANY of these allegations are untrue”

I knew it was over.


11 posted on 12/26/2011 6:56:50 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: yldstrk
Herman Cain was mugged by those who believe a black shouldn’t be ALLOWED to be conservative. Period.

What a load of unfounded BS!

12 posted on 12/26/2011 6:57:50 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
it breaks my heart, seeing what happened to this "good man."

It broke my heart also, but for an entirely different reason: I was loyal to Herman Cain, but, if you’re innocent, you stand and fight. You face your accusers.... you get mad as hell and face the world with confidence that your name will be cleared. Take the fight to your oppressor. But, no, he threw in the towel and ran and hid behind his wife and God. If he can't stand up to Gloria Allred and 3 old broads, how is he gonna stand up to China, Iran and North Korea? And, when you’re giving money secretly to a woman and your wife knows nothing about it...... HELLO.....

Herman acted guilty from the get-go. He did not handle this thing well. He had 10 days advance notice that Politico was going ahead with this story, and, he did nothing. Some have asked: Why have we not heard a peep out of the women? Probably because he took the money that I, and many others, sent for his campaign and paid them off. If you are truly innocent of the charges against you, you stand and fight!!! He did not do that. I FEEL BETRAYED AND I'M MAD AS HELL!!!
13 posted on 12/26/2011 6:57:55 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Amen! I for one am terribly disturbed at the way such accusations got ground with absolutley no basis of verifiable facts. It seemed to me to be a collusion of both sides to prevent an “outsider” from breaking into the ranks of of big boy politics. As long as that can happen, we will never get our country straightened out.


14 posted on 12/26/2011 6:58:06 AM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: yldstrk

Herman Cain, knowing what he was involved in, should have never entered the race and by so doing so, dirtied the conservative grass roots movement.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 6:58:24 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good Lord. He’s back? . And who cares? Since he’s an experienced talk show guy, I’m sure Rush will have him as a guest host or something. Then there are the Hannity Freedom Concerts. Books anyone? Speakers tour. The cult he commanded, the one that ripped apart other candidates in his name, will make him richer . The cult he encouraged, the one that steadfastly said they would not vote for another candidate if he lost, will continue to think somebody else brought him down. They’ll never think it was he who brought himself down. I envision a new board game by next Christmas. Wearing that all too familiar hat and singing gospel music, his likeness will pop up in a variety of places. We’ll call it, Where’s Herman..


16 posted on 12/26/2011 6:59:01 AM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: eastforker

As a 66 year old, black man, I knew that Cain was guilty as soon as I laid eyes on Ginger. You see, back in the day, she would have been called, “a high yellow, black child”. Believe me, they got all of the attention. And, I have to admit, they still get my attention.


17 posted on 12/26/2011 6:59:08 AM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And look at the candidates we have left.

Whether you supported Rev. Cain or not, at least he was a CHOICE. Powerful people conspired to take that choice away from us and they have succeeded in leaving us with contenders that fit whatever mold they have decided upon, not what the masses might want. No matter who we vote for now, he or she will be the party”s candidate, not ours That does not bode well for the future of this republic.


18 posted on 12/26/2011 7:00:19 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
Powerful people conspired to take that choice away from us and they have succeeded in leaving us with contenders that fit whatever mold they have decided upon, not what the masses might want.

Powerful people made him put out some really confusing, contradictory information about this potential "other woman"? I don't think so.

He had an opportunity, once this woman was made public. to set the record straight, regardless of what the story was. He completely screwed it, and he deserved to lose support for it.

20 posted on 12/26/2011 7:06:36 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: mylife
You are right.
Now I just can't wait until Gingrich is nominated and the Democrats start running ads about the “First Home Wrecker” and Newt's faithfulness all his life.
21 posted on 12/26/2011 7:07:41 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: Smokin' Joe
>"Alleged bimbos aside, I'd still vote for Cain if he was in. "

Ditto!

22 posted on 12/26/2011 7:14:27 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Tupelo

Well, at least Newt never pretended to be a saint.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 7:18:29 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I have to agree with you on cain... he was my guy, but when the going got tough, he folded like a house of cards... that in and of itself removes him from my consideration...

Palin, on the other hand, was my gal, until she played the string ‘em along game.... this removes her from my consideration...

I guess with a sigh, i will have to throw my support to newt ( at least with him i will not have to hold my nose )..

daffy duck will get my vote before mcromney..


24 posted on 12/26/2011 7:19:22 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: mylife

I agree. He may not have ‘hit that’ - but he was tryin’ his damnedest to......


25 posted on 12/26/2011 7:22:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Herman could have won the presidency with women problems. If only he came out strong on it first.

“I’m not perfect. The marriages of candidates are not for public discussion. What matters is that my wife and I have come through it all and love each other very much. I have stepped up to the plate to serve you with real conservative principles and take the country back toward freedom. My transgressions are hardly important. None of us, including our greatest black and white American men through history, is perfect in this regard. But watch and see what a strong man with a bold plan, flawed though he may be, can do for you, yours, and all of America by getting back to the limited government the founders intended!”

Cain could have won it all, and diffused gotcha politics for everyone coming after him.


26 posted on 12/26/2011 7:24:26 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I have read at a few sites, he apparently drank too much and liked the ladies. He did himself in.


27 posted on 12/26/2011 7:24:55 AM PST by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: Gaffer

Something was up.


28 posted on 12/26/2011 7:24:57 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Capt_Hank

Had to look that term up.

Learn something most every day on FR.

Thanks. :)


29 posted on 12/26/2011 7:29:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: mylife
When Herman responded to the Ginger white thing by admitting he knew her for 13 years, was supporting her financially without the wifes knowledge and then responded to the story by saying repeatedly, the well parsed words: “MANY of these allegations are untrue” I knew it was over.

He also didn't deny the middle of the night calls/texts - a sign of an intimate relationship. If he was innocent he should have fought the allegations for the sake of the cause.

30 posted on 12/26/2011 7:32:13 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Tupelo

Now I just can’t wait until Gingrich is nominated and the Democrats start running ads about the “First Home Wrecker” and Newt’s faithfulness all his life.


And if the GOP electorate nominates Gingrich then they admit not being bothered by his antics and must deal with the blitz of media attacks/ads when they develop. One can seek redemption and change but likewise they can revert back to their ways of the past. Either morality matters or it doesn’t, so GOP which will it be?


31 posted on 12/26/2011 7:33:20 AM PST by deport
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How is Palin’s lawsuit against Joe McGinniss’s book coming along?


32 posted on 12/26/2011 7:35:02 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: deport

The sad thing about Newt as the standard bearer, is that the media will make the Obama’s out to be the “All American” family.

I am not judging Newt by saying that, I am just recognizing reality.


33 posted on 12/26/2011 7:38:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Alleged bimbos aside, I'd still vote for Cain if he was in.

If the GOP forces Romney upon us (and no Independent candidate is worthy), there's a good chance Cain will be my write-in.


34 posted on 12/26/2011 7:39:37 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Lol.

I actually might even buy they stupid book, if she’d just re-enter the race.

Heck I bought two copies of Going Rogue, and attended the opening day showing of “The Undefeated”.

Sure. Why not. Just for some dissenting views. :D

BRING BACK PALIN.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 7:41:28 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: mylife

I don’t see it as BS, because how do you explain the trashing of a candidate who was only accused of adultry and the finding of him not being worthy and yet the embracement of a self-acknowledged serial adultry as being the hero of the conservative movement?


36 posted on 12/26/2011 7:47:43 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind
First they came for Perry but I didn't speak out because I wasn't for Perry.

Then they came for Cain but I didn't speak out because I wasn't for Cain.

Then they came for Gingrich but I didn't speak out because I wasn't for Gingrich

Then they came for Paul but I didn't speak out because Paul is crazy

Then they came and gave us Willard Stiles Romney as our nominee and said BWHAHAHAHHAH there is no lone left to oppose him

37 posted on 12/26/2011 7:53:47 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry (or Gingrich maybe))
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To: SeekAndFind

God ain’t done with Herman Cain . . .

. . . Or his libelers, either.


38 posted on 12/26/2011 7:54:07 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am sure that the palin brand appreciates your significant contribution to their bottom line.


39 posted on 12/26/2011 7:55:16 AM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: Kartographer

The reality is - Newt committed adultery - got divorced and married his ‘lovers’. We have accepted that he was having those 2 serious love affairs while ‘happily’???? married. He admitted to personal failures as a husband. That is the reality today.

Herman presented himself as in a solid marriage of 40+ years. Then he was accused of acting ‘inappropriately’ ouside of that marriage- which was very disappointing and out of kilter with whom we believed Herman to be; a man of character.

This only shows that we had more ‘affection’ for Herman and less tolerance for any alleged ‘flaws’ and he handled it badly.

With Newt - the laundry was already out in the sunshine.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 8:05:54 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: SeekAndFind
All the bandwagon jumpers hopped aboard the Cain train while refusing to acknowledge he was an unknown.

Cain had not been through the same scrutiny as had the others. It wasn't until he started doing well that people were interested in looking into his background. I guess he thought he could just talk his way into the presidency. But actions and behavior matter. Cain gave his opponents the ammunition to use against him, why wouldn't they use it?

The lesson to be learned is not about Cain himself, but the bandwagon jumpers who have a bad habit of projecting perfection onto their latest, greatest “leader”, and then blame everyone else when it turns out they backed just another flawed politician.

41 posted on 12/26/2011 8:10:23 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


42 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:12 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: moose-matson

Yeah well.

Sometimes I just accept and allow myself to be played.

If she gets back in this race, I’ll support her. Absolutely.


43 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:25 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind
Since Cain has dropped out of the race, all of his accusers have vanished. Imagine that.

Funny how that worked, isn't it.

44 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:19 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.

This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.


45 posted on 12/26/2011 8:20:14 AM PST by mo
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If she gets back in the race it will only be because she and Burnett were unsuccessfull in parking the new reality tv show.

She can't do both and we do know that she is currently expending her time and energies on the show...not on running.

You listen to her words and see a reluctant warrior.

I watch her actions and see a profit-driven opportunist. I don't begrudge her or anybody who chases the dollar, not at all. But, I refuse to ignore her constant actions in deference to her occasional words.

I do genuinely see her opportunistic chasing of financial reward as part of her political dance of the seven veils. Her appeals to her loyal base are pecuniary and, given her refusal to engage a realistic candidacy, manipulative for her financial gain.

46 posted on 12/26/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: sodpoodle
He married some of them. Their are a some others that have come forward with far more veracity than Cain's accusers and with Newt's acknowleged record I think that there is little doubt there is some truth to at least some of these additional allegations.

I agree that Cain handled it badly and should have gotten in front of things far better and far quicker than he did.

I also freely admit that I have no use for Newt. Mostly because if you look with an unbias eye at Newt's whole record Newt has always done whats best for Newt and if it helped the country and/or the conseverative movement along the way so much the better, but those things have never been his top goal. He has done this his whole political life and personal life and I see nothing in his present actions that shows he has changed.

Now comes those who will tell me that I am voting for Obama by not backing Newt. Don't bother I care not to argue with people happy to play a game that is clearly rigged. Rigged I say because how else can you explain in a year with such a wounded and flawed opponent as Obama is we are left with the choices we have running against him?

47 posted on 12/26/2011 8:31:55 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: eastforker

Oh, look, another stupid, ****in’ Freeper.

Enjoy Obama.


48 posted on 12/26/2011 8:40:45 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: sodpoodle

Yeah, it is, and it’s disgusting.

Furthermore, I never saw any of Herman’s laundry, not even a single scrap.

Lol @ conservative hypocrites.

Good luck, you’re going to need it.


49 posted on 12/26/2011 8:45:23 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cain should have just stayed in. Obama is a Communist, who believes the Constitution is fundamentally flawed, that the Supreme Court should redistribute wealth. He was a cokehead, and probably had a homosexual affair. Anything Cain might have done pales in comparison to this enemy of America. This was no time to get wobbly, and Cain did.


50 posted on 12/26/2011 8:48:13 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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