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Three Ugly Truths Exposed by the Tebow Assault
American Thinker ^ | December 27, 2011 | Timothy Gordon

Posted on 12/27/2011 5:21:08 AM PST by rhema

The ongoing imbroglio with Denver Bronco quarterback Tim Tebow has made plain three really unflattering facts about the secular-progressive ("sec-prog") movement in this country. Tebow's straightforward and unapologetic Christianity has been received by NFL mensae magnae (contradiction in terms?) as a type of threat. These folks have responded by building upon the previously gathered strength of the anti-Christian movement in this nation. Such a movement, by the way, is far more prevalent than it formerly appeared.

First truth: the sec-progs have meatier game in sight than we used to think. That is, when sec-progs start out declaring that they aim merely to set a plain whereupon all religions can fairly "coexist," they really contemplate an end-game where religions fade permanently out of view. Have a look at the emergent history of the jurisprudence: "No federal religion" became "no state religions"; this became "no government entanglement with religion"; this became "no governmental support for religion"; this became "no governmental mention of religion"; this led to the phase that the Tebow debacle currently evinces: "no popular mention of religion in any public sphere, including private affairs which get viewed on TV." One can easily imagine the last few steps in this phenomenology of disappearance.

Coming back to Tebow, let's remember that his comparatively subtle iconographic decorum has managed to stir up the hornets' nest to a startling degree: recent betrayals by active (Lions players Stephen Tulloch and Tony Scheffler) and especially retired (Merrill Hodge and Jake Plummer) players lack all response-to-stimulus proportionality and sound more like personal defensive responses to some governmental actor threatening the players' own religious liberty. That is, all such ugliness over Tebow taking to his own knee in thanks, or occasionally mentioning the J-word after a game, exposes a fetid, rotten sort of secularism at the heart of

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Colorado; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: christianity; denverbroncos; nfl; secprog; tebow; timtebow
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1 posted on 12/27/2011 5:21:10 AM PST by rhema
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To: rhema

The fact Tebow’s open expressions of faith are considered “controversial” shows how far down the path of darkness this country has traveled. Similar to the gasps heard when Carrie Prejean dared to state she felt marriage should be between one man and one woman.


2 posted on 12/27/2011 5:26:02 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: ScottinVA
IMHO, if Tebow was a car salesman, a business owner or a street sweeper, he'd still be expressing his faith as he's always done (at least since high school). All the self-agrandizing dances NFL players do (and look so foolish doing like the pretend superman guy) and Tebow is the one they want to bring down?

Some people simply need to get a life!

3 posted on 12/27/2011 5:39:16 AM PST by sweet_diane (Adoption, the beautiful choice!)
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To: rhema

The Bible says, “Thou shalt not steal,” but the NFL teams regularly steal from the taxpayers. So, how pious can anyone associated with the NFL really be?


4 posted on 12/27/2011 5:46:46 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: ScottinVA

America is devolving into a neo-pagan culture. The universities, media and popular culture are clearly devoid of traditional religous values. Drug use, fornication, crass materialism, celebrity worship and abortion are now the norm. Clearly epicureans outnumber the stoics. America is not unlike other advanced cultures nearing their nadir. To give an understanding of why Tebow is so “offensive” imagine this scenario. A Roman gladiator stands before the emperor and makes the sign of the cross. What direction would the thumb point?


5 posted on 12/27/2011 5:50:40 AM PST by allendale
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To: rhema

The left is never FOR something. All they can do is tear down. Beware of Alinsky’s primary tactic used so effectively by Obama’s leftists: DEMONIZE

They demonize Christians in general, Catholics in particular

They demonizeAll religion other than ecologism and other syncretist belief systems

They demonizeThe nuclear family

They demonize all men who aren’t wimps

They demonize Marriage between men and women

They demonize Liberty

They demonize holding Private property

They demonize free market, for-profit enterprises

They demonize States’ sovereign autonomy

They demonize Anyone who espouses the 10 Commandments

They demonize any family that has more then 1.75 children

They demonize anyone who love the USA and what it stans for in the world

They demonize anyone who believes in the sanctity of human life.


6 posted on 12/27/2011 5:56:00 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: rhema
While, happily, it seems that enough folks have awoken to the economic blights of leftism for the 2012 election, such a realization -- in order to bear any meaningful change -- must be met with a concomitant moral reawakening. This is my New Year's wish. And God bless Tim Tebow.
7 posted on 12/27/2011 5:57:24 AM PST by b9 (I see smart people.)
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To: veritas2002

If Tim Tebow were a muslim player who got down and prayed to Allah during games, the liberals would gleefully rush to protect his freedom of religion.


8 posted on 12/27/2011 6:01:00 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: bigdirty

Most of the NFL players have a college education and cannot spell C.A.T.. They are paid for their physical talent not for their intelligence. They went through High School, College, and into the NFL because they are big, athletic, and play football well.

Tebow has a brain.


9 posted on 12/27/2011 6:09:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Tebow has a brain.

And a soul.

10 posted on 12/27/2011 6:17:39 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: allendale; donmeaker
America is devolving into a neo-pagan culture.

And evidence of that can be seen even on FR. FR member donmeaker has proudly proclaimed his paganism and has flatly stated on FR that he believes that Christianity is a pagan religion.

11 posted on 12/27/2011 6:26:15 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway
FR member donmeaker has proudly proclaimed his paganism and has flatly stated on FR that he believes that Christianity is a pagan religion.

Has he not read the banner for this forum:

"Welcome to Free Republic, America's exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty conservatives!"

12 posted on 12/27/2011 6:32:09 AM PST by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: bigdirty
If Tim Tebow were a muslim player who got down and prayed to Allah during games, the liberals would gleefully rush to protect his freedom of religion.

Conversely, Al-Tebow would be slagged into a puddle of "He's an Anti-American" ridicule and scorn here.
13 posted on 12/27/2011 6:36:49 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: rhema
I just witnessed two Christians declaring a religious expression at work to be "unprofessional."

Read Psalm 2. This nation will not survive a battle with Christ.

14 posted on 12/27/2011 6:38:30 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Goldsborough
Conversely, Al-Tebow would be slagged into a puddle of "He's an Anti-American" ridicule and scorn here.

Asinine comparison. When Christian fundamentalist start slamming airliners in to buildings in Manhattan, then you can make your stupid moral equivalence.

15 posted on 12/27/2011 6:49:10 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cowboyway

Get ‘em cowboy. Weed ‘em out.


16 posted on 12/27/2011 6:50:52 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Daveinyork
NFL teams regularly steal from the taxpayers

How much has Tebow stolen from you?
(Thou shall not bear false witness)

17 posted on 12/27/2011 6:51:25 AM PST by laotzu
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To: hopespringseternal
I just witnessed two Christians declaring a religious expression at work to be "unprofessional."

Who defined those two workers as "Christian"? Many people call themselves Christian when they are anything but.

18 posted on 12/27/2011 6:51:46 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: rhema
Another reality consistent with this is that the Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA) was once mentioned often in the coverage of college football, even positive mentions of which players were members during game broadcasts.

I can't remember the last time I heard the FCA mentioned anywhere. But the organization does still exist and has a website.

19 posted on 12/27/2011 6:52:46 AM PST by Will88
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To: Pollster1

We all have soul’s. Tim Tebow is a thorn in their side by worshiping the Creator. He, also has placed the care of his soul in Jesus’ hands. Those people (and I use the term hesitantly) feel they are the Master of their Soul’s. They will learn but it may be too late for them.


20 posted on 12/27/2011 6:56:49 AM PST by Tomato lover (Jesus is the way, the truth and the light)
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To: cowboyway

[ FR member donmeaker has proudly proclaimed his paganism and has flatly stated on FR that he believes that Christianity is a pagan religion. ]

NOT all christians are christians.. theres an element of truth to what Meaker says..


21 posted on 12/27/2011 7:02:15 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

So, you also think that Christianity is a pagan religion?


22 posted on 12/27/2011 7:05:34 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rhema

Have the players & announcers in the article actually made derogatory comments about Tebow? Have others done this?
I love football & basketball but have not followed either one for years. They have been going down this road for a long time & I refuse to participate.


23 posted on 12/27/2011 7:06:15 AM PST by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: Will88

If you follow drag racing you will see the large RFC (Racers For Christ) decals on a lot of cars.


24 posted on 12/27/2011 7:10:50 AM PST by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: certrtwngnut

NASCAR has an active racetrack ministry as well.


25 posted on 12/27/2011 7:22:57 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You can't fix stupid but you can vote it out.)
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To: MissMagnolia
Fellowship of Christian Cowboys


26 posted on 12/27/2011 7:29:45 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rhema

The left has always wanted to replace religion & God with statism and the State.

The State is the source of beneficence, megastructures, micro-management of the individual, and so-on. As opposed to God’s blessings, creation & attention to our soul.

I could go on, but you get the idea.


27 posted on 12/27/2011 7:35:12 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: allendale

Y’all complainin’ about NFL are johnny come lately’s. I do like football, but I’ve always worried about a game that is played on Sunday.
If you’re going to worship at the stadium at least do it on Friday (HighSchool) or Saturday (College)
Now you’ve got the NFL gods Monday, Thursday, Sunday, and sometimes Saturday... not to mention all the ESPN replays...

Before you jump all over me... I do love football.. But, I love Jesus more.
And I love the word of God which says, “Do not forsake the assembling together of yourselves, which has become the custom of some...(who went I suppose to watch the Gladiators)... Ok, I’ve got my flak jacket zipped up and my helmet firmly on... go ahead..


28 posted on 12/27/2011 8:03:21 AM PST by theoldmarine (lost two heroes in one day Palin/Jobs - what a pity!)
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To: laotzu

“How much has Tebow stolen from you?
(Thou shall not bear false witness) “

From me, probably none. From the people of Colorado and Denver, whatever subsidy was paid to build the stadium times the revenues divided by his share.


29 posted on 12/27/2011 8:28:53 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: cowboyway

[ So, you also think that Christianity is a pagan religion? ]

No... according to my studies Christianity is not a religion..
Many religions claim to be christian but are merely clubs..
Non christian religions are also clubs..

What would a real God need with a religion?..
Only false Gods need religions..

Religions are democratic.. the real God (it is reported) has a Kingdom..
Or something metaphorically similar..

Note; suggested reading John chapter 10(bible)...


30 posted on 12/27/2011 8:47:34 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: rhema
they want to teach kindergartners how to wear condoms and (not "but") are offended by Tim Tebow's open chastity...While, happily, it seems that enough folks have awoken to the economic blights of leftism for the 2012 election, such a realization -- in order to bear any meaningful change -- must be met with a concomitant moral reawakening.> Wow, that is a brillant observation!
31 posted on 12/27/2011 9:05:57 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: rhema
"Whatsoever is lawful in the Commonwealth, or permitted to the subject in the ordinary way, cannot be forbidden to him for religious uses. . . ." - Thomas Jefferson (As quoted in "The Works of Thomas Jefferson," Paul Leicester Ford, Editor)

This is the same Jefferson the so-called "progressives" love to cite as their source for excluding religious speech and practice from schools and publicly-supported places. Doubt that they are as eager to cite his strong words and actions on behalf of religious freedom, the rights of conscience, and freedom of expression.

"Among the most inestimable of our blessings is that . . . of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable in His will; a liberty deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support. . . . The rights of conscience we never submitted (to government). We are answerable for them to our God."

32 posted on 12/27/2011 9:22:25 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: rhema

I still think this has more to do with politics than religion. Plenty of black athletes praise Jesus all over the place and nobody even notices. Know why? Black churches are uniformly Democrat. They campaign openly for Democratic political candidates. A black Christian is still a Democrat. A white Christian, however, is under suspicion of being a Conservative.


33 posted on 12/27/2011 9:59:09 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Daveinyork

I do believe the taxpayers, through their elected representatives give to the NFL and other sports teams freely—so the fault IMO lies with the local voters and elected officials, not the NFL that is simply petitioning its governments.


34 posted on 12/27/2011 9:59:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

You believe wrong. Just because a majority approves of the theft, the theft is still theft.


35 posted on 12/27/2011 10:10:09 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: 9YearLurker

Let each person decide how much he wants to contribute to the support of the NFL team, and those who don’t want to contribute to support them, don’t have to. It’s called free enterprise. Some on this board pay some lip service to the concept.


36 posted on 12/27/2011 10:12:03 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

It’s legal, not theft.


37 posted on 12/27/2011 10:12:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Pollster1
Tebow has a brain. And a soul.

A soul it is. His brain is about average for an NFL QB, according to his NFL QB test score. He scored 22 out of 45, about average it turns out. I tried the test, got 43.

38 posted on 12/27/2011 10:20:46 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: Daveinyork

I agree with you—no municipality should be bundling up money for professional sports teams. But that’s not how our system works, we (wrongly, IMO) give out money for all sorts of arts and social and other endeavors. That the sports teams get in line and take their share is on the elected officials and their constituents, not on the league executives.


39 posted on 12/27/2011 10:30:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

“It’s legal, not theft.”

It’s legal theft. If one man points a gun at your head and demands your money, it’s called robbery. If a million do it, it’s called democracy. It’s still robbery.

The team owners are billionairs, the players are millionaires. They can afford to build their own playpens.


40 posted on 12/27/2011 10:52:03 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: ScottinVA
The fact Tebow’s open expressions of faith are considered “controversial” shows how far down the path of darkness this country has traveled.

Ain't that the truth!



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

Either way, the violin is sweet yet LETHAL.

Do it!

41 posted on 12/27/2011 11:21:59 AM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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To: bigdirty

“If Tim Tebow were a muslim player...”

If the man were Catholic or Mormon, the “my Jesus is better than your Jesus” crowd on this very site would be denouncing and tearing him down.


42 posted on 12/27/2011 11:35:59 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: 9YearLurker

That’s like spotting an old lady waling down the street with a bag full of money, and thinking that you’d better rob her, or else someone else will.


43 posted on 12/27/2011 12:21:25 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: hosepipe

You’re a heck of a dancer.

Let’s try this another way: is Christianity a form of paganism in your slithery opinion?


44 posted on 12/27/2011 12:23:36 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Daveinyork

I don’t think the arts should be publicly funded either—but that doesn’t mean I begrudge anyone the opportunity working in an organization that soaks up government funding in its field either.


45 posted on 12/27/2011 1:20:08 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Owl558
If the man were Catholic or Mormon, the “my Jesus is better than your Jesus” crowd on this very site would be denouncing and tearing him down.

That's nothing! Imagine if the man used an Apple computer!

46 posted on 12/27/2011 1:27:48 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 9YearLurker

And that’s why our governments are always in financial trouble.


47 posted on 12/27/2011 1:28:41 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: cowboyway
[ Let’s try this another way: is Christianity a form of paganism in your slithery opinion? ]

Paganism is a perception.. Many names for God..
People do the best they can with what they have to work with..
as do you.............

Not that “God”(the real one) has a name anyway nor does the Holy Spirit..
The biblical God refuses to be “named”.. which gives him/it much credibility..

Example: Jesus name is not Jesus, nor is Jehovah's name Jehova..
Neither Hebrew/Aramaic or Greek has the letter “J”..

Note: I like things simple too but some things are just not that simple.. or simplistic.. Smart Alec's HATE THAT..

48 posted on 12/27/2011 1:41:56 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: cowboyway

Pft.

Let me guess he uses the History Channel’s invented “history” of how Christians just coopted all the pagan winter festival holidays and solstice bs and “tricked” people into celebrating a Jesus centered version of it.

Man, I’m only 30 and I’ve been reading about that one since I was 12.

Funny thing is... do your own research, while of course on a macro level there was overlap of that nature (that is how humans evolve/devolve traditions and norms no matter what the case), the argument they make is made as if they received a secret time capsule with a confessional.

As point of fact, Christianity is certainly not pagan in any definition.

We may not be the “chosen people,” but this gentile is willing to go down fighting as a warrior on their behalf... isn’t that the short of what our role is supposed to be from an Evangelical perspective? (an honest question-— I’m Catholic and a bit ignorant on the various American developed Christian sects’ specific end times/final fulfillment ideologies).


49 posted on 12/27/2011 2:26:30 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: cowboyway

When his, or anyone else’s opinion matters, I will be forever damaged. It might be a while. Christians are accustomed to that behavior. My only concern for Tebow is the fiery arrows headed his way. Prayers for strength, especially with the losses. The NFL is lucky my husband is not a puritanical conservative or their union wouldn’t get the time of day in my home. I love college football.


50 posted on 12/27/2011 2:34:42 PM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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