Posted on 12/27/2011 5:21:08 AM PST by rhema
The ongoing imbroglio with Denver Bronco quarterback Tim Tebow has made plain three really unflattering facts about the secular-progressive ("sec-prog") movement in this country. Tebow's straightforward and unapologetic Christianity has been received by NFL mensae magnae (contradiction in terms?) as a type of threat. These folks have responded by building upon the previously gathered strength of the anti-Christian movement in this nation. Such a movement, by the way, is far more prevalent than it formerly appeared.
First truth: the sec-progs have meatier game in sight than we used to think. That is, when sec-progs start out declaring that they aim merely to set a plain whereupon all religions can fairly "coexist," they really contemplate an end-game where religions fade permanently out of view. Have a look at the emergent history of the jurisprudence: "No federal religion" became "no state religions"; this became "no government entanglement with religion"; this became "no governmental support for religion"; this became "no governmental mention of religion"; this led to the phase that the Tebow debacle currently evinces: "no popular mention of religion in any public sphere, including private affairs which get viewed on TV." One can easily imagine the last few steps in this phenomenology of disappearance.
Coming back to Tebow, let's remember that his comparatively subtle iconographic decorum has managed to stir up the hornets' nest to a startling degree: recent betrayals by active (Lions players Stephen Tulloch and Tony Scheffler) and especially retired (Merrill Hodge and Jake Plummer) players lack all response-to-stimulus proportionality and sound more like personal defensive responses to some governmental actor threatening the players' own religious liberty. That is, all such ugliness over Tebow taking to his own knee in thanks, or occasionally mentioning the J-word after a game, exposes a fetid, rotten sort of secularism at the heart of
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[ FR member donmeaker has proudly proclaimed his paganism and has flatly stated on FR that he believes that Christianity is a pagan religion. ]
NOT all christians are christians.. theres an element of truth to what Meaker says..
So, you also think that Christianity is a pagan religion?
Have the players & announcers in the article actually made derogatory comments about Tebow? Have others done this?
I love football & basketball but have not followed either one for years. They have been going down this road for a long time & I refuse to participate.
If you follow drag racing you will see the large RFC (Racers For Christ) decals on a lot of cars.
NASCAR has an active racetrack ministry as well.
The left has always wanted to replace religion & God with statism and the State.
The State is the source of beneficence, megastructures, micro-management of the individual, and so-on. As opposed to God’s blessings, creation & attention to our soul.
I could go on, but you get the idea.
Y’all complainin’ about NFL are johnny come lately’s. I do like football, but I’ve always worried about a game that is played on Sunday.
If you’re going to worship at the stadium at least do it on Friday (HighSchool) or Saturday (College)
Now you’ve got the NFL gods Monday, Thursday, Sunday, and sometimes Saturday... not to mention all the ESPN replays...
Before you jump all over me... I do love football.. But, I love Jesus more.
And I love the word of God which says, “Do not forsake the assembling together of yourselves, which has become the custom of some...(who went I suppose to watch the Gladiators)... Ok, I’ve got my flak jacket zipped up and my helmet firmly on... go ahead..
“How much has Tebow stolen from you?
(Thou shall not bear false witness) “
From me, probably none. From the people of Colorado and Denver, whatever subsidy was paid to build the stadium times the revenues divided by his share.
[ So, you also think that Christianity is a pagan religion? ]
No... according to my studies Christianity is not a religion..
Many religions claim to be christian but are merely clubs..
Non christian religions are also clubs..
What would a real God need with a religion?..
Only false Gods need religions..
Religions are democratic.. the real God (it is reported) has a Kingdom..
Or something metaphorically similar..
Note; suggested reading John chapter 10(bible)...
This is the same Jefferson the so-called "progressives" love to cite as their source for excluding religious speech and practice from schools and publicly-supported places. Doubt that they are as eager to cite his strong words and actions on behalf of religious freedom, the rights of conscience, and freedom of expression.
"Among the most inestimable of our blessings is that . . . of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable in His will; a liberty deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support. . . . The rights of conscience we never submitted (to government). We are answerable for them to our God."
I still think this has more to do with politics than religion. Plenty of black athletes praise Jesus all over the place and nobody even notices. Know why? Black churches are uniformly Democrat. They campaign openly for Democratic political candidates. A black Christian is still a Democrat. A white Christian, however, is under suspicion of being a Conservative.
I do believe the taxpayers, through their elected representatives give to the NFL and other sports teams freely—so the fault IMO lies with the local voters and elected officials, not the NFL that is simply petitioning its governments.
You believe wrong. Just because a majority approves of the theft, the theft is still theft.
Let each person decide how much he wants to contribute to the support of the NFL team, and those who don’t want to contribute to support them, don’t have to. It’s called free enterprise. Some on this board pay some lip service to the concept.
It’s legal, not theft.
A soul it is. His brain is about average for an NFL QB, according to his NFL QB test score. He scored 22 out of 45, about average it turns out. I tried the test, got 43.
I agree with you—no municipality should be bundling up money for professional sports teams. But that’s not how our system works, we (wrongly, IMO) give out money for all sorts of arts and social and other endeavors. That the sports teams get in line and take their share is on the elected officials and their constituents, not on the league executives.
“It’s legal, not theft.”
It’s legal theft. If one man points a gun at your head and demands your money, it’s called robbery. If a million do it, it’s called democracy. It’s still robbery.
The team owners are billionairs, the players are millionaires. They can afford to build their own playpens.
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