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Attack Dogs Unleashed on Ron Paul
Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2011 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 12/28/2011 11:40:14 AM PST by Kaslin

Attack dogs have finally been unleashed on Ron Paul. Those barking dogs caused Andrew Sullivan to Re-Think The Paul Endorsement

Time Magazine even launched a headline Paul Walks Away

No Need to Rethink Endorsement

There is no need to rethink endorsements. Here is the deal: Ron Paul did not say the things attributed to him. He denies them, disavows them, and most importantly, his voting record proves it!

Can anyone honestly tell me why things Ron Paul did NOT say over twenty years ago should be news today?

Paul Missed Best Tactic

How many times does he have to deny he wrote those things? Still, Ron Paul did not handle the CNN setup in the best possible manner.

This is what Paul said to CNN.

Why don’t you go back and look at what I said yesterday on CNN and what I’ve said for 20 something years. 22 years ago? I didn’t write them, I disavow them."

That answer was perfectly fine, as far as it went. Then Paul walked out. It was a missed opportunity.

Proposed Follow-Up

Rather than walking out, Paul should have followed up with ...

"I'm not here to discuss imaginary topics or things I never said. Now, do you want to discuss my position on the economy, on the Fed, and on spending, or is your only point to this interview to discuss things I did not say 20 years ago and have explained to CNN countless times?"

That would have smashed the ball down CNN interviewer Gloria Borger's throat, right where it belonged.

OK. Admittedly, Ron Paul did not respond in the perfect manner. So Ron Paul is human. Who isn't?

Is a transgression 22 years ago of something Ron Paul never said, and whose track record in congress proves it, any reason to drop support of Ron Paul?

In favor of who? Flip-flopper Newt Gingrich? Mitt Romney, the man that practically wrote the Obama Health-Care legislation? The Mitt Romney who wants to starts a trade war with China? Another Republican candidate that has no chance of winning?

If case you are a misguided Mitt Romney fan please consider President Obama and Mitt Romney are Nearly One and the Same!

Anyone "rethinking" their Ron Paul endorsement based on things Paul never said is not thinking clearly.

Attack Dog Plus Side

Here's the plus side to the attack dogs: Ron Paul is now considered a serious candidate or the attack dogs would not have been unleashed on things he never said 22 years ago.

Interestingly, The State Column reports Ron Paul still holds a lead in Iowa.

Thus, a majority of voters have decided that 22-year-old never-made statements are irrelevant, even if some misguided souls can't.


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1 posted on 12/28/2011 11:40:16 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

To quote Barney fife: “He’s a nut” end quote.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 11:43:00 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Mmogamer

3 posted on 12/28/2011 11:45:41 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kaslin

He now joins the long list of misquoted Republican candidates or candidates who were accused of saying one thing when they really didn’t. You can tell alot about a candidate in how well (or poorly) he or she handles such situations. I’ll be watching that closly.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 11:45:49 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Kaslin

Only true constitutional conservative in race...thats why the GOP doesnt like him.


5 posted on 12/28/2011 11:46:40 AM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the true sons of liberty!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Who gives a shit about RuPaul? He’s not even a Republican, let alone a conservative! Screw him and the drug addled horse he rode in on. Why can’t we just give this nutbag his walking papers? Do we have to keep giving him so much attention?


6 posted on 12/28/2011 11:46:55 AM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: Kaslin

7 posted on 12/28/2011 11:47:53 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Some are wise and some are otherwise)
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To: jessduntno

You like your statist. Ill like the conservative


8 posted on 12/28/2011 11:48:54 AM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the true sons of liberty!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

I recently read Ron Paul’s Liberty Defined. He is correct on so many of the topics he addressed. He has integrity and is not swayed by public opinion polls. He stands for constitutional limited government. I support Ron Paul. I am grateful for the important ideas that he has introduced into the public forum during the debates.


9 posted on 12/28/2011 11:49:20 AM PST by bytheBook (When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Kaslin
"Here is the deal: Ron Paul did not say the things attributed to him."

Well, that's a magnificent lie. So I stopped reading the posted article from that point on. Because, really what's the point? Paul apologists (Paultards) are merely inconsequential cultists, severely lacking of brain matter.

10 posted on 12/28/2011 11:49:55 AM PST by CainConservative (Merry CHRISTmas and a Happy Newt/Marco 2012!!)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives

“Only true constitutional conservative in race...thats why the GOP doesnt like him.”

Maybe they don’t like him because he’s a half-assed cross breed Neo-Libertican doofus that should be running on his own party’s ticket.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 11:50:08 AM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
Oh good lord, the man is a nut job.

Only true “Constitutional conservative” my ass...

SOB thinks the USC is a suicide pact...

12 posted on 12/28/2011 11:50:08 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: jessduntno

PDS


13 posted on 12/28/2011 11:50:19 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Mmogamer

When do they let the attack dogs after Mitt? Oh yeah they won’t until after he has been forced upon the GOP voters by Rove, Will, McConnell, Krauthammer, and the Bushies.


14 posted on 12/28/2011 11:50:29 AM PST by vmivol00
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To: ejonesie22

I think the founders knew better than todays yahoos


15 posted on 12/28/2011 11:51:59 AM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the true sons of liberty!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Andrew Sullivan endorsed Paul? Even while he talks about his “friend” Joe Klein and says he is for Obama? In other words, Sullivan supports Paul as a way to cripple the republican party. I doubt he’s the only leftist to do so. RATS are well known for sabotaging republican primaries.


16 posted on 12/28/2011 11:52:13 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives

“You like your statist. Ill like the conservative”

You better look up the meaning of Conservative, Skippy.


17 posted on 12/28/2011 11:53:22 AM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: bytheBook
Oh Lord, another one...


18 posted on 12/28/2011 11:53:39 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: bytheBook

Alot of what Paul says is good..however do you really want to let Iran develop all the nukes it can?


19 posted on 12/28/2011 11:55:17 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
Yeah and they would look at Paul like he was nuts...

You think men like Washington would surrender to Muslims.

You Paulitards are just delusional.

20 posted on 12/28/2011 11:56:08 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: jessduntno

The GOP is using him as a distraction.


21 posted on 12/28/2011 11:56:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: jessduntno

It aint big gummint Newt.


22 posted on 12/28/2011 11:57:24 AM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the true sons of liberty!!!!)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
Only true constitutional conservative in race...thats why the GOP doesnt like him

The Constitution is a complete document. Cut and Run only follows the parts of the Constitution he likes. He ignores the parts he does not agree with.
23 posted on 12/28/2011 11:58:08 AM PST by John D
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To: cripplecreek

“The GOP is using him as a distraction.”

I thought they were using him to try to complete their image as fools.


24 posted on 12/28/2011 11:59:26 AM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives

The pervert Paul is no Constitutional conservative. Why don’t you explain to me why he claims that homosexuality must be treated equally to heterosexuality and voted along with the progressives to have it forced upon our military?

Bad enough that the pervert Paul fights for terrorist rights and the rights of Islamic dictators but now he wants to force homosexuality upon our Armed Forces.


25 posted on 12/28/2011 11:59:36 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Kaslin

GOOD! It isn’t as if he were a Republican.


26 posted on 12/28/2011 12:00:25 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
I think the founders knew better than todays yahoos

The founders did not want to allow gays to destroy our military. How does the surrender monkey stand on this?
27 posted on 12/28/2011 12:01:12 PM PST by John D
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To: Mmogamer
Alot of what Paul says is good..

True.

however do you really want to let Iran develop all the nukes it can?

No way, no how. So no Paul.

28 posted on 12/28/2011 12:02:39 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Kaslin

Dogs? More like chickens... coming home to roost.

If you’re not in control of a publication with your name on it (excluding posts and open forums, of course) you are a fool. So Paul is either a scumbag or a fool — and both options are awful.


29 posted on 12/28/2011 12:10:16 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Kaslin


Ron Paul, with his supporters Don Black and Black's son, Founders of Neo-Nazi website "Stormfront."

The Ron Paul Campaign and its Neo-Nazi Supporters

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html

Ron Paul Quotes Hamas -- lies about conditions in Judea

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36478_Ron_Paul-_Gaza_is_a_Concentration_Camp_Israel_is_Starving_Palestinians

Angry White Man --- The bigoted past of Ron Paul

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-man?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca

30 posted on 12/28/2011 12:11:00 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Kaslin

Its easy to see which side of this “debate” discusses principles and issues and which side gets even more hysterical without offering anything objective or constructive.

The anti-Paul people had better come up with something more substantial than aaaahhhh he’s nuts! and anyone looking for a real Constutional candidate is a Paulbot.

Ending excessive foreign entanglements is not “cutting and running” or “appeasing”. In fact, the result would be a stronger America, more secure and prosperous and more able to be a real example in the World.


31 posted on 12/28/2011 12:11:44 PM PST by Kinzua (Are you ready to admit that electing Obama was a mistake?)
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To: Kaslin

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t - I despise nuts...when they’re politicians.


32 posted on 12/28/2011 12:12:00 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Kaslin
“Can anyone honestly tell me why things Ron Paul did NOT say over twenty years ago should be news today?”

1. He DID say those things 20 years ago. He owned the letters with his name at the top and as the named editor and as his signature on some, hired those who assembled it, collected money from it, defended them, admitted they were his, attracted the type of people who would read it, and it should be clear to most people that he wrote them or purposely allowed them to be published.

2. Yes! He is is accountable for the letters of 20 years ago. I give you the names, Robert Byrd or William Ayers? Would you have accepted the past of those people?

33 posted on 12/28/2011 12:16:29 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: CainConservative
Paul apologists (Paultards) are merely inconsequential cultists, severely lacking of brain matter.

Well, they do seem to have 1-bit brains with a parity error.



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

Either way, the violin is sweet yet LETHAL.

Do it!

34 posted on 12/28/2011 12:17:04 PM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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To: Kaslin

If the GOP smears his supporters you might as well say President Obama is safe electorally.


35 posted on 12/28/2011 12:17:04 PM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
that's why the GOP doesn't like him.

I don't like him because his foreign policy outlook is completely stupid.

36 posted on 12/28/2011 12:17:51 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Kinzua

1. Newsletters

2. Foreign policy statements

3. Israel

4. Lack of fiscal plan


37 posted on 12/28/2011 12:18:17 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: junta

Exactly.


38 posted on 12/28/2011 12:18:46 PM PST by Kinzua (Are you ready to admit that electing Obama was a mistake?)
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To: Kaslin
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39 posted on 12/28/2011 12:19:33 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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40 posted on 12/28/2011 12:20:07 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Kinzua
Oh please principles and issues my ass, the SOB wants to let the musszies kill me and my kid...

Paul had been shown time and time to be a nut job here and you paulitard keep doing the “We are so smart you guys don't understand how brilliant Paul is, he is the only one who yada yada yada...

At some point the you stop debating the dense and just point and laugh...

41 posted on 12/28/2011 12:20:48 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
"Only true constitutional conservative in race...thats why the GOP doesnt like him."

Extremists are extremists, are extremists. bttt

"....One cannot simply blindly apply first principles to every situation, for this ends in a dogmatic and false absolutism.

"This is, for example, what creeps people out about Ron Paul.

"He says plenty of things -- derived from first principles embodied in the Constitution -- that make perfect sense. However, he always goes too far, in that half of what he says results from a blind application of first principles, irrespective of empirical reality.

"The same moral confusion afflicts leftists who wouldn't waterboard a known terrorist with information about an imminent attack, owing to an unthinking allegiance to the principle of "non-torture" -- which any normal person shares, up to a point, the point of suicidal insanity. ..."

HERE

42 posted on 12/28/2011 12:21:13 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Russ

He’s no more a Republican than Obama is. In fact, he’s to the left of Obama on a number of issues, including the offing of UBL. His “Blame America First” foreign policy is a better fit in the party of Soros than the party of Lincoln and Reagan.


43 posted on 12/28/2011 12:21:27 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Kaslin

44 posted on 12/28/2011 12:22:15 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: tbpiper

I totally agree with you.


45 posted on 12/28/2011 12:22:28 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ejonesie22

Thank you!


46 posted on 12/28/2011 12:23:50 PM PST by Kinzua (Are you ready to admit that electing Obama was a mistake?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

LOLOLOLOLOL! Excellent. :)


47 posted on 12/28/2011 12:24:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kaslin

He did say this:

“Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq,”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818292/posts


48 posted on 12/28/2011 12:25:43 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: ozzymandus

“...Sullivan supports Paul as a way to cripple the republican party. I doubt he’s the only leftist to do so. RATS are well known for sabotaging republican primaries.”

You couldn’t be more right:

‘Mischief’ voters push Paul to front of GOP race
by Byron York Chief Political Correspondent
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/mischief-voters-push-paul-front-gop-race/276751

<>

“Blue Republicans”: an Idea Whose Time Has Come
Posted: 07/13/11 By Robin Koerner Publisher, WatchingAmerica.com
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/blue-republicans-an-idea-_b_897405.html

“Many people of independent, liberal or Democratic sensibilities voted for Obama in 2008 in the hope of jolting America toward civil liberties and away from war, only to find themselves in 2011 disappointed .....” [snip]

<>//<>

Robin Koerner: If You Love Peace, Become a “Blue Republican” (Just for a Year)

Since you can’t change the Democrat ticket, why not act where you can make a positive change, by telling the Republican party where you really want it to go. I offer you a special moniker to set yourselves apart: the “Blue Republican.”

What is a Blue Republican?

http://www.bluerepublican.org/
We are former non-Republicans who are joining the Republican party for one year to help Ron Paul win the GOP nomination for President in 2012. Who We Are

<>//<>

Anti-war Ron Paul attracting support from local left
http://www.rightface.us/profiles/blogs/ron-paul-can-win-up-against-obama-says-blue-republicans
By Michael Kitch
Nov 22, 2011 12:00 am

LACONIA ­ Amid polling last week that showed Ron Paul running into the money in both Iowa and New Hampshire there were also signs that he was tapping support from an unexpected quarter ­ the left-wing of the Democratic Party.

Lynn Rudmin Chong, former chair of the Belknap County Democratic Committee, has publicly endorsed Paul and said that “I have found other kindred souls.” The Sanbornton resident said that she left the Democratic Party and changed her voter registration to “undeclared” in anticipation of taking a Republican ballot in New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation presidential primary and casting her vote for Paul.

“He is the only one saying no more war,” Chong said. She spent two days in Washington with the “Occupy DC” movement, where she said that she was encouraged to see so many young people holding signs supporting Paul.

“I would definitely call myself a progressive,” said Will Hopkins of Belmont, who returned from a tour as infantryman in Iraq to become executive director of New Hampshire Peace Action, a group seeking to end foreign wars and cut defense budgets. “I supported Obama in 2008, but I’m supporting Ron Paul. That’s where I’m putting my eggs this year,” he said. “A lot of folks in the peace movement are taking a close look at Paul.”

Signs that liberals and progressives were flirting with Paul appeared last spring, when Robin Koerner, a British national who founded “Watching America,” which publishes foreign news about the United States in English, and blogs for the Huffington Post, described Paul as the “conservative champion of liberalism.”

He coined the term “Blue Republican” to brand progressives for Paul, which was promptly promoted on Facebook, where his article was shared 11,000 times in less than a week.

In July. Koerner posted “If you love peace, become a ‘Blue Republican’ (Just for a Year),” telling progressives they do not have to like the GOP “to sign up as a Republican for a year to help make sure that the Republican primaries are won by the one representative who has always been for peace, has always voted against bailouts, and has always opposed the reach of government into your bedroom, your relationships and your person.”

On their website Blue Republicans describe themselves as “people who have never before thought of joining the Republican Party . . . who identify as Democrats or Independents and/or supported Obama in 2008.”

Jim Forsythe of Strafford, the state senator from District 4 and chair of Paul’s campaign in New Hampshire, said that he was aware of independent voters, both conservatives and liberals, either eying or backing Paul. He said that some some liberals and progressives share Paul’s opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, eagerness to reduce the defense budget at home and military footprint abroad, hostility to the Patriot Act and distrust of corporate power.

“I’m being pragmatic,” said Chong, explaining that she would vote for Paul in the primary without showing her hand in the general election. However, she admitted “I am feeling way distanced from Obama.”

Hopkins vowed to support Paul in the both the Republican primary and the general election. However, he said that if Paul loses the nomination to another Republican, he will throw his vote to a third party.

Polls conducted by Bloomberg News last week put Paul in second place behind Mitt Romney in both New Hampshire and Iowa with 17-percent and 19-percent respectively. Unlike several other GOP candidates ­ Michelle Bachman, Rick Perry, Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich ­ whose polling numbers have waxed and waned, Paul has polled consistently, without, however, significantly expanding his support.

Another Bloomberg poll indicated that if Paul bolted the GOP to run as a third-party candidate, he would capture 18-percent of the vote, effectively throwing the election to Obama, who would top Romney with 44-percent to 32-percent.
So, if many Republicans & many Democrats support Ron Paul, why couldn’t he take Obama? I think he has the best chance of doing just that.


49 posted on 12/28/2011 12:25:43 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Mmogamer

Ross Pirot. Paul will implode. (1) He’s 75; (2) He’s unhinged; 3) HE’S 75!!!


50 posted on 12/28/2011 12:25:57 PM PST by csuzieque
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