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Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Fallout
Radiation Public Health Project ^ | Dec 19, 2011 | Joseph J. Mangano

Posted on 12/28/2011 7:41:33 PM PST by Veto!

WASHINGTON, D.C. – December 19, 2011 -- An estimated 14,000 excess deaths in the United States are linked to the radioactive fallout from the disaster at the Fukushima nuclear reactors in Japan, according to a major new article in the December 2011 edition of the International Journal of Health Services. This is the first peer-reviewed study published in a medical journal documenting the health hazards of Fukushima........

Just six days after the disastrous meltdowns struck four reactors at Fukushima on March 11, scientists detected the plume of toxic fallout had arrived over American shores. Subsequent measurements by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) found levels of radiation in air, water, and milk hundreds of times above normal across the U.S. The highest detected levels of Iodine-131 in precipitation in the U.S. were as follows (normal is about 2 picocuries I-131 per liter of water): Boise, ID (390); Kansas City (200); Salt Lake City (190); Jacksonville, FL (150); Olympia, WA (125); and Boston, MA (92).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: coverup; cpusa; fukushima; ijhs; piven; radiation; redscience
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To: Veto!

Those numbers are ludicrous.

I’d check with real physicists and engineers before believing anything from one of our medical pubs.


51 posted on 12/28/2011 9:08:52 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: exDemMom

Thanks very much for taking this seriously.


52 posted on 12/28/2011 9:11:45 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!

I would think 14,000 deaths might even be high in Japan where people were actually exposed to radiation. However, this number is ludicrous in the US where radiation attributable to the Fukushima disaster was hardly measurable. If this low level of exposure to radiation can cause thousands of deaths, you would think that several western states would have experienced millions of deaths as a result of atmospheric A-bomb tests in the 1950s.


53 posted on 12/28/2011 9:12:50 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: faucetman

Oh, those are nice pictures of Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

However, putting a bull’s eye memorial at ground zero seems like it is in rather poor taste.


54 posted on 12/28/2011 9:13:27 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Veto!

Come on...this simply does not pass the smell test. 14,000 deaths from radiation here in the US?

That could not be covered over. Too many relatives, Drs, nurses. Burial services, etc., etc.

This is simply Bravo Sierra and hogwash...sensationalizing and attention grabbing by absolutely meaningless and vague reports.

It would be HUGE news if even ONE American died as a direct result of radiation from Japan...but there has not been a single report of any any illness even...much less a death...or 14,000 of them!

Come on!


55 posted on 12/28/2011 9:13:53 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Veto!

I posted too quickly. The claim has to do with I-131 at increased levels.

I would still say “What is the mechanism”? Paul Muller, who got the Nobel in chemistry in 1946 for creating DDT, is also responsible for the “linear hypothesis” (any increase at all in exposure to toxic substances will result in excess deaths). Serious toxicologists know the linear hypothesis is false. The body has the ability to withstand exposure to toxic substances up to various threshhold levels without suffering any harm.

Aircrews, for example, are subject to vastly higher levels of radiation than the rest of us, but if there is any adverse impact at all on their health, it certainly only occurs after many, many years.

What makes the paper’s conclusion look utterly bogus is the “keel over” claims. In other words, the paper’s assertions about causation cause an immediate red flag to go up.

Bear in mind that scares based on alleged “science” are relatively common. Alar was one, and the sugar industry’s campaign against saccharine was another. More recently, absurd claims about second hand smoke have been used to frighten the public. I wouldn’t be surprised if the article is driven by an anti-nuclear power agenda.


56 posted on 12/28/2011 9:15:10 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: LukeL

That is what first came to my mind when I saw the head line. That and I snorted Dr Pepper through my nose (ouch) because it was so unbelievable.

I knew before opening the story it was complete BS. I would have read about 10 times that dead or dying in Japan.


57 posted on 12/28/2011 9:15:10 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Veto!; ex-Texan
Estimated excess deaths during this period for the entire U.S. is about 14,000.

Wow! Ex-Texan was right. 750 RAD.


58 posted on 12/28/2011 9:15:22 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: MikeNJ
Frances Fox Piven is on their Editorial Board. She is one of the peers.

Good find. I hadn't thought of looking at the editorial board.

59 posted on 12/28/2011 9:16:08 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Veto!

Better both Oakland and Berkeley ;-)


60 posted on 12/28/2011 9:16:32 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: mkjessup

Nothing damn curious about it if the numbers normally fluctuate by large amounts. No reason why they shouldn’t.


61 posted on 12/28/2011 9:18:08 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: achilles2000
Beautiful People who live in Malibu keel over shortly after reaching their ski lodges in Aspen, Vail, or Park City

Probably. But not from radiation :)

62 posted on 12/28/2011 9:18:08 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: LukeL

Good info. Thanks.


63 posted on 12/28/2011 9:19:59 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!

You’re welcome.


64 posted on 12/28/2011 9:20:47 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Veto!
The hard core true Progresso's are knee-jerk anti-nuclear, but Obama is a 100 % crony from Chicago Illinois. He is in the back pocket of GE. He supports Nuclear Energy. One of the blessed green technologies, if you buy that green energy garbage. Here is a current graph of beta radiation from Olympia Washington. Nice and clean.

Now Idaho Falls has been showing recent slightly elevated levels, but for some reason radiation from Japan seemed to be concentrated in Boise Idaho back when they montiored it during March. No idea of the source for these current spikes.

And Phoenix has been having some very strange spikes. Source unknown and even it it was from Japan, Obama has muzzled our media, so you wont here it reported.

At any rate, there have been recent readings of Iodine-131 in various locations of Japan since September. Personally know someone who is visiting with family near Tokyo right now. Most of the Japanese realize their government has been lying from day 1 and they do not trust them one bit. A lot of Japanese are doing their own monitoring.

65 posted on 12/28/2011 9:28:39 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Veto!

They should have stayed out of the fallout, man!

66 posted on 12/28/2011 9:29:56 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: Veto!
Sounds to me like the logical fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc, or "after this, therefore because of this". Another way to say it is, "since some people died a few days after the Fukushima disaster, it must be the disaster that caused their deaths"....
67 posted on 12/28/2011 9:32:15 PM PST by nobdysfool (If the government was in charge of the Sahara, there would be a shortage of sand....)
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To: Veto!
The worst stuff, like I-131, have short half-lives. I-131 has a half-life of around 8 days, thus I can't imagine that we received anything significant. As for longer-lasting isotopes, perhaps a little story? One of my professors had a good sized chunk of uranium ore stuffed in the top drawer of his desk for decades. He was crazy, but never developed cancer. ;) For grins, you might be interested in a real-time rad map of the US.
68 posted on 12/28/2011 9:34:10 PM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: achilles2000
The highest detected levels in the U.S. were as follows Boise, ID (390); Kansas City (200); Salt Lake City (190); Jacksonville, FL (150); Olympia, WA (125); and Boston, MA (92).

Glad I live in the southwest!

I have a friend in Boise Idaho, and lately after speaking with him on the phone, I noted he started stuttering, and seemed to babble incoherently about his teeth being loose. Kept talking about his wife's hair becoming like an SOS brillo pad.

69 posted on 12/28/2011 9:38:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Veto!
RPHP was established as a non-profit 501 (c)(3) organization in 1995, after many years of work by its founders--Jay Gould and Ernest Sternglass--as part of other nonprofit environmental and public policy organizations.

Where in the world did you find this group at???? Sheesh. Think you need to go back to DU.

Just read their press release page a few minutes and you can see that this Mangano character is a rabid anti-nuclear zealot hiding behind a non-profit.

Buy a web domain and suddenly you speak with the voice of God!

Sheesh. You're just spreading lefty propaganda with this one.

70 posted on 12/28/2011 9:41:58 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Geithner: Taxes on 'Small Business' Must Rise So Government Doesn't 'Shrink')
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To: dragnet2

lol


71 posted on 12/28/2011 9:53:57 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!

I call BS. This is just frickin nonsense


72 posted on 12/28/2011 9:54:48 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: justa-hairyape

Terrific graphs. Where did you find them? Link please, justa.


73 posted on 12/28/2011 9:56:47 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!

Yeah well, so is sunshine. And as a friend used to say, “You have to die from something.”


74 posted on 12/28/2011 9:57:06 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: exDemMom
This means that, at the distance from the US to Japan, if there were any radiation levels high enough to cause harm to US persons, the radiation levels in Japan would be high enough to render Japan completely lifeless.

One last consideration might be the fallout of radioactive particles thrown into the air. To an extent, the concentration of radioactive particles obeys the inverse-square law.

That first only holds for ionizing radiation. Any particles produced function themselves as point sources, with their own new distance, where they are distributed. That distribution follows wind and other patterns. There is NO remote "to an extent" that the radioactive particles were deposited in circular lines of equal density thousands of miles from Japan. At best they would be in highly eccentric ellipses.

You can't really argue that particles didn't arrive in the US or that the US isn't a likely place for particulate from Japan to go. But what these guys are trying to do is show causation, and that's where they're totally irresponsible and can be destroyed for it (arguing about proximity lets them beg the question that the particles, once proximate, actually are dangerous). And in my midnight, late-for-bedtime laziness, I'm referencing UpToDate rather than your PubMed search earlier. =)

390 picocuries per liter of water in Boise. Compare this with the fixed-dose options for radioiodine for Grave's disease of 5, 10, or 15 millicuries. This will induce hypothyroidism in 12-18 weeks (yet they cite CDC statistics for 0 to just 14 weeks). And even this has a potential failure rate. Sure iodine is concentrated in the thyroid, but if you took just the 5 mCi pill and distributed it in 40 liters of body water, you're looking at 125,000 picocuries. They're nowhere close, and how many liters of their koolaid would you have to drink to get there?

If 14,000 more people were dying from myxedema coma, the news would be all over it...

75 posted on 12/28/2011 10:10:55 PM PST by Styria
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To: Veto!
Those are from the US government, EPA Radnet. Will see if I can find a good link. Here are the image links you can store as bookmarks for now.

Olympia Washington

Idaho Falls

Phoenix

76 posted on 12/28/2011 10:13:57 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

thanks. I managed to find Spokane at Radnet. Air quality was awful here for two weeks, you almost needed a knife to cut a hole in the air to walk thru.


77 posted on 12/28/2011 10:36:07 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!
You can make your own Beta Gross Count graphs on the following link. You have to play with the parameters a couple of times to see the graph.

RadNet Query Builder

The following has a clickable image and list for Gamma Energies and other parameters.

EPA's RadNet Data

For links to clean charts you can use the Progresso blog link below. This guy however supported the OWS gang and was completely duped into believing it was a true revolutionary movement.

Boise, ID Real Time Radiation Monitoring

78 posted on 12/28/2011 10:52:25 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Styria
There is NO remote "to an extent" that the radioactive particles were deposited in circular lines of equal density thousands of miles from Japan.

I do realize that the analogy is somewhat limited, but it was good enough for the point I wanted to make, which is that any particles small enough to become airborne and travel for long distances will end up being quite dispersed. Of course, there are a number of forces acting on particles that simply don't have an effect on radiative emissions.

79 posted on 12/28/2011 10:55:26 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: MikeNJ

#44 MikeNJ:

You have helped to undercover a red hornets nest. This so-called International Journal of Health Services is headed by a Castroite red doctor named Vincente Navarro. Marxist agitator Frances Fox Piven is on the Board and I saw another name of a Communist Party USA member or two, either on the Board but definitely authors of IJHS articles on “Race and Class re Heart Transplants”, Stefanie Woolhandler and David Himmelstein.

They are colleagues of old CPUSA member, now Democratic Socialists of America member, marxist Dr. Quentin Young.
Young, once the head of a CPUSA front known as the Medical Committee for Human Rights (MCHR), became the left’s leading advocate of a universal health insurance plan, and head a red/leftist-loaded group known as Physicians for a National Health Plan (Woolhander, Himmelstein and Mark Almsberg), to name a few.

Quentin Young is the unofficial national health insurance advisor to a guy in the neighborhood, Barack Obama. There should be a tremendous amoung of information on all of them at www.keywiki.org, search for “Physicians for a National Health Plan”, “Quentin Young”, and “Barack Obama”.

The Fukishima article is an attempt to destroy support for nuclear energy, which Obama is systematically destroying here in the US, along with the coal and oil industries, thus making us depend on his fraudulent “Green power” schemes and con jobs, as well as on foreign oil.

thanks Mike NJ for opening this can of red scum. You have done FR readers and loyal AMericans a great favor by exposing these red bastards.

There will be more on this - you can bet the bank (if it is solvent) on it!


80 posted on 12/28/2011 11:30:09 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Veto!

And not a single news report on a single one of them.


81 posted on 12/29/2011 12:04:49 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Obama has been pro nuclear. He is a GE man.

Obama proposes nuclear power expansion while Japan has nuclear crisis

Yes Marxist today are anti-nuke, but the main Marxist players in the last century, the Soviet Union, were extremely pro nuclear.

Obama's plan for energy security and the green economy

"By 2035, 80 percent of our electricity will come from a broad array of clean energy sources –- from renewables like wind and solar and homegrown biofuels, along with natural gas, clean coal, and nuclear power."

Granted, Obama could be changing his position, but his main player on the NRC was just over in Japan congratulating the Japanese on achieving cold shutdown. Most Japanese citizens realize cold shutdown is just a lie.

82 posted on 12/29/2011 12:28:23 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Veto!
Even so, I’d like to see an official disclaimer that says the Pacific Northwest is totally free of radiation from Japan.

They can't because it is not. However, everything is a matter of degree. If I pee in a lake I have raised the level of the lake, that does not mean that I have caused a flood that will wipe out the Ohio Valley.

You got a tiny dose of radiation from what happened in Japan. Less then what you get from eating a banana.

83 posted on 12/29/2011 12:36:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Proud2BeRight

You have to understand that an above ground nuclear test with its heat and mushroom cloud sends the fallout high into the upper reaches of the atmosphere where it takes a long long time to washout or make its way back to earth, centuries. But it does add to background radiation levels over time with each nuclear release because each nuclear release leaves its own signature pattern in the radioactive debris and is cataloged for reference so scientists know if readings are from old nuke fallouts or a new event via the signature patterns.

A nuclear bomb only requires a hand full of very pure nuke material to do it’s damage. These nuke power plants contain hundreds of thousand of nuke dirty bomb materials since it is not in pure form. So, a low altitude release especially at ground level immediately exposes the fallout to every living thing and what contamination does go air borne washes out with precipitation as it travels the globe in the lower atmosphere skipping some areas while concentrating in others and showing up in dust or dirt after it dries.


84 posted on 12/29/2011 1:11:32 AM PST by Razzz42
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To: Veto!
Is this Nuke Biased propaganda? So everyone who dies of cancer now
will be placed in this category?

Reminds me of gun death propaganda.

85 posted on 12/29/2011 1:17:57 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Veto!
Radiation PUBLIC Health Project, eh?

Gee, I wonder where they get their funding from.

86 posted on 12/29/2011 1:24:37 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Veto!
Radiation PUBLIC Health Project, eh?

Gee, I wonder where they get their funding from.

87 posted on 12/29/2011 1:28:24 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Veto!

QUICK!!

Somebody go check Hawaii and make sure hussein is not snorkeling in zombie waters given they are way closer to Japan than the left coast is according to my world atlas.

Regards


88 posted on 12/29/2011 5:40:09 AM PST by Sine_Pari
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To: justa-hairyape

Thanks for the links. Spokane’s not looking too good, but then, I knew that. Worst air quality since my LA years. :(


89 posted on 12/30/2011 5:55:41 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: NoPrisoners

Great job. Keep spreading the word about radiation hormesis. Actually, hormesis works on other ‘threats’ as well.


90 posted on 12/31/2011 7:24:17 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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