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Ron Paul: “If I Were an Iranian, I’d Want a Nuclear Weapon”
The Iowa Republican ^ | 12/29/11 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 12/29/2011 4:48:32 PM PST by Keith in Iowa

Most of Ron Paul’s Iowa campaign stops have been in the state’s largest population centers and college towns. Now, with a caucus victory within reach, the Texas congressman is taking his libertarian message to Iowa’s smaller cities. Paul visited Perry, Iowa over the noon hour on Thursday.

The crowd of 100 was definitely more reserved than what Paul is used to. There was no standing ovation at the beginning or end of his speech. There were no whoops or cheers, but plenty of polite applause.

“I like a lot of what he says, especially about the U.S. economy and balanced budget,” said attendee Jerry Kielsmeier. “I need to think a little more about his foreign policy.”

Paul stuck to his familiar themes of smaller government, cutting $1 trillion from the budget and bringing our troops home. “The military spending overseas, I am absolutely convinced does not make us a stronger nation,” Paul said. “Military might is sometimes military mischief…I think we’re in way too many wars and it’s time to change that and bring our military home to protect this country.”

Paul made is clear he is not just talking about bringing troops home from countries where they are in harm’s way, like Afghanistan. He wants to close every military base around the world.

“Just bringing the troops home would be an economic boost,” the Texas congressman said. “Why do we still have troops in Japan? WWII has been over for quite a while now. Why do we have troops in South Korea? Why do we have troops in Germany?”

Ron Paul has taken flak from some Republicans and his GOP competitors for his stance on Iran. He was asked about the Iranians’ recent threats to close down the Straits of Hormuz.

“I think they’re just doing that to say, ‘Why don’t you be just a little cautious and back off.’ And I think we should not impose sanctions. That is an act of war,“ Paul responded.

He also seemed to take sympathy with the Iranians position. “If I were an Iranian, I’d probably want to have a nuclear weapon too because you gain respect from that.”

Paul’s views, and his style, seem to be gaining traction in Iowa. One complaint about fellow GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney is that he sometimes comes across as too polished and rehearsed. No one will make those complaints about Ron Paul.

“His persona is more of what I’m used to in a small town,” said Perry native Jim Van Dorn. “I didn’t have that greasy feeling when he walked out.”

There is no doubt Paul has large appeal in Iowa’s larger cities. If he can appeal to small town Iowans, he has a very realistic chance of winning on Tuesday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 911truther; libertarians; mullahron; randpaultruthfile; ronluvzmahmoud; ronpaul; ronpaulnuts; ronpaultruthfile; zot
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To: 50mm

Doesn’t put “Dr.” in front of his name.


51 posted on 12/29/2011 8:05:54 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Shhhh. Don’t clue the noobie paultard spam monkeys on what makes them stick out. LOL


52 posted on 12/29/2011 8:09:10 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: GreatJoeMcCarthy
Why should I care as an American that Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon

Well, for starters there's this, you pathetic little moron.

53 posted on 12/29/2011 9:36:39 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: GreatJoeMcCarthy; Admin Moderator; 50mm; Old Sarge; darkwing104; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; ...


So long, GreatJoeMcCarthy (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Old Sarge, 50mm, and awesome Admin Moderator

After downmouthing FR and delivering a "lame opus by a Wrong Paulist" our troll ends up wandering aimlessly and burned to a crisp





No liberaltarians


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

54 posted on 12/29/2011 9:41:58 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Keith in Iowa

This guy shouldn’t be considered for the House much less the presidency.


55 posted on 12/29/2011 9:52:14 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Allegra

“More Paultard zottings?”

Coordinated attack, perhaps ?

Just sayin’...........


(Don’t mind me. Just a theory. Just read a book by Aaron Klein called “Red Army” which lays out the entire $oros/Obama/Alinsky web.)


56 posted on 12/29/2011 10:06:41 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Allegra

“More Paultard zottings?”

Coordinated attack, perhaps ?

Just sayin’...........


(Don’t mind me. Just a theory. Just read a book by Aaron Klein called “Red Army” which lays out the entire $oros/Obama/Alinsky web.)


57 posted on 12/29/2011 10:07:14 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Ron Paul must just be a garden variety racist. There can be no other explanation in my mind given his outrageous statements particularly ones that affect Israel. I don’t make accusations of racism lightly either because I think too many people are too sensitive to talk about the subject with anything aproaching an open mind.


58 posted on 12/29/2011 10:10:40 PM PST by Crucial
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To: TheOldLady

That’s some nice zottin’, right there.


59 posted on 12/30/2011 1:20:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

If ronpaul were an iranian, he’d be just another madman in a sea of psychopaths.

One has to wonder if he wouldn’t be just as quick to pull the nuclear trigger on Israel as the rest of the crazed middle east maggots.


60 posted on 12/30/2011 4:51:13 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

If I were an Iranian, I’d want nuclear weapons, too. Doesn’t mean that I should be allowed them, though.


61 posted on 12/30/2011 8:09:07 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Keith in Iowa

If I was an Iranian, I’d want Ron Paul elected as President.


62 posted on 12/30/2011 8:17:00 AM PST by truth_seeker (l)
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To: Keith in Iowa

If he were still alive, even Charles Lindbergh would kick Ron Paul’s ass.


63 posted on 12/30/2011 8:19:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: GreatJoeMcCarthy

Here’s your guy accusing Israel of turning Gaza into a concentration camp, and defending the terrorists who are blowing up Israelis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d1t4O9CcZQ0

This guy has no business being president of the USA.


64 posted on 12/30/2011 8:31:07 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Keith in Iowa
“If I were an Iranian, I’d probably want to have a nuclear weapon too because you gain respect from that.”

It's impossible to defend this kind of moral-equivalence, thought-experiment of implied analogy. The Iranian citizen's relationship with his state is not the same as the United States citizen with his state. "If I were an Iranian"...

I'd probably want to be an American.

You can still say that about most citizens of most states around the world. It's not because America is better, it's because Americans are still a little bit free.

The U.S. and the rest of the free world have been apparently ineffective at stopping Iran's leaders from operating their nuclear program and arming themselves. Our leaders won't shoot the mad dogs because that would be unfair (not politically correct) and worse, it would be useless (never let a crises go to waste). I personally am for shooting mad dogs but barring that obvious solution, I not for taunting or toying with them.

Meanwhile, our freedom and future prosperity is being torn away from us in 1.2 trillion dollar chunks. I have not decided for or against Ron Paul yet but I will not let Iran be a effective distraction of the Fabian socialist statists the way Hannibal and his elephants were to Rome.

65 posted on 12/30/2011 9:24:28 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: TheOldLady
another lame opus


66 posted on 12/30/2011 9:49:24 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I’ve said on other threads I’ve stopped watching the polls in Iowa. When Iowa Republicans can put Paul on the top at any time, the polls and the peoples’ votes mean nothing.

I discount Iowa and New Hampshire, don’t care what their numbers are. We’ll get down to business after those.


67 posted on 12/30/2011 5:33:57 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: GreatJoeMcCarthy

“Although I am fully supporting Michele Bachmann, I will defend Ron Paul.”

Nah, you’re a Paul guy.


68 posted on 12/30/2011 5:38:51 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: SunkenCiv
If only I could do the zotting...

But then I come to my senses and realize that it would probably be a very bad idea...
69 posted on 12/30/2011 8:25:32 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Keith in Iowa
I keep waiting for Paul to say to his supporters:

“Enough already, I was kidding with all the wacky things I have been saying; it was a joke. You folks supporting me need to grow up. I was kidding with all those stupid things I was saying, you really don't think I am that stupid and crazy do you?”

Or something like that.

70 posted on 12/30/2011 8:32:50 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Theophilus

Anyone may disagree with Paul’s ideas, but what is wrong with the statement? Replace Iranian with Japanese, Brazilian, Italian or Vietnamese. Still the same thing. I’d like to have a nuke too. If I did, I bet those damn teenagers wouldn’t steal my pumpkins at Halloween either.


71 posted on 12/30/2011 8:36:56 PM PST by Pappy Smear (Support the presidency, end the policies.)
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To: Godzilla

Another great vacation photo, G!


72 posted on 12/30/2011 10:43:32 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Pappy Smear
what is wrong with the statement?

Glad you asked.

  1. "If I were an Iranian..." - and Iranian what? Ayatollah ? President? Citizen? What kind of Iranian's shoes is Dr Paul trying on? Who does he want us to empathize with? I assume he means citizen, but Iranian citizens are brutally oppressed and gain no power from a weapon.
  2. "...I'd Want..." - Want for yourself? Want for you country? Want to brandish? Want for Israel or Washington DC?
  3. ...a Nuclear Weapon" - Nuclear weapons are not tools of diplomacy they are indiscriminate offensive weapons of annihilation. Most people in the world wish they did not exist. I sometimes wish that we had used them early and often to ensure that Communist Russia and Communist China never got them.

So, let me tell you what I wish Dr Paul would say:
We live in a world where rapidly advancing technology is enabling ruthless and evil tyrants, like those ruling the Islamic state of Iran, to develop and possess nuclear, chemical, biological, ideological, cyber weapons and other evils that we may not have even imagined yet. As the superpower we can
  1. Go on the offensive and try to dominate/destroy/rebuild/subject all nations that we detect approaching nuclear capability, bankrupting and and enslaving all of our citizens to do it.
  2. Continue to ineffectively rattle our expensive sabers using the threats of the world to centralize power and justify the gradual confiscation of the freedoms and liberty we enjoy. And by the way, the sanctions we impose only hurt the repressed people and may actually aid the tyranny.
  3. Lead the world in decentralizing power, maximizing economic opportunity for citizens in an environment where our own advancements in technology will keep us ahead of the enemies of humanity while empowering and liberating the people they enslave. We will speak past the world's tyrants to the people encouraging and empowering them, in every way, to set themselves free. Nuclear weapons are not and will never be beneficially useful to individual people of the world.

73 posted on 12/31/2011 7:32:03 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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