Skip to comments.Wake deputy kills dog while searching for runaway teen (another 'isolated incident')
Posted on 12/30/2011 8:26:28 AM PST by bamahead
A Wake County sheriffs deputy shot and killed a couples 3-year-old dog Wednesday night while searching for a runaway teenager.
John and Linda Super say two deputies came to their home on King Circle, looking for a 15-year-old neighbor who had run away and had often spent time with them.
One of the couples dogs, Elvis, forced his way out the front door and ran outside as the couple talked to the deputies, they said. One of the deputies shot Elvis twice, including once in the back of the head, killing him, according to the Supers.
All weve got is a dead dog and a lot of questions that need answers, Linda Super said. (Elvis) came running out, never bothered a soul, never opened his mouth, never woofed or nothing when he came out the door.
Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said the deputy, Roderick Belfield, said the dog was barking and running towards him. Belfield will not be punished for shooting the dog.
Harrison said he is investigating whether Belfield or the other deputy, Kenneth Edward Kay, used profanity while subduing John Super, who was upset after the shooting. John Super says the deputies were rough with him.
One of the runaway teen's guardians said Elvis was "vicious" and had lunged for the deputy, something the Supers dispute
(Elvis) was my fourth child, Linda Super said. He was like the center of our lives.
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So if you defend yourself against home-invaders, the invaders are entitled to shoot you?
The dog was still on the owners property with the owners present.
The owners ‘record’ if he has one has nothing to do with anything.
Why not? The value of a conservative, to a member of a government union, is that of a dog.
Killing house dogs seems to be (at least unofficial) policy. Do you truly believe that those who kill dogs today will not one day be ordered/encouraged to kill “unwanted” people tomorrow?
Why do you suppose house dogs are shot with such regularity? It is to desensitize officers to the natural horror they would feel at gunning down law-abiding citizens.
Start with the dogs of the law-abiding citizens. Move on to the citizens themselves.
That is correct and I put a gun to my head and made myself smoke for about 26 years. When I got tired of holding the gun I gave up smoking. And no longer grow tobacco. But I would be willing to bet the dead dog owner could not pass a drug test. I saw a bunch of people in a smoking area the other day, they were taking turns holding the gun.
“Uh, perhaps that would be because the charging dog, attested to by a gardian as viscious, had charged by the 1st cop and was lunging at the 2nd cop.”
That claim is not supported by the information given in the article.
It must be those new-fangled boomerang bullets. A government agent wouldn’t possibly lie, shoot a retreating dog, and claim he was about to be attacked.
Interfering with a minor is illegal.
“Ever been bit? Ever been attacked by a dog? People NEED to control their dogs and stop using them as clubs for society.”
Doesn’t change the fact that cops are trigger happy and need to stop shooting dogs.
My Lord, wife and kids are all ahead of the dogs. The dogs are great. We all love them. But no, they are not the center. Now as to the particulars of this case, I have no idea if it were justified or not.
“But I would be willing to bet the dead dog owner could not pass a drug test. “
Who cares, they weren’t suspected in a crime.
Keep trying to fabricate a reason for the cops to do what they did. It doesn’t change anything.
Thanks for the referral to that chilling bit of news.
They shot a dog for no reason.
You are making wild assumptions as usual.
The dog in the family, IS the police for his domain. THAT is why cops kill them right off. Their job is to protect and serve. Simply put, the police get rid of the competition upon entering private property. If the people were rich enough to hire human security, the cops would not treat them in such a manner. Animals should be controlled, but so should police dogs. If one of them attacks you, and you fight back, you are arrested for resisting arrest. If one of them is in the process of harming you, and you kill him, you are charged with a high crime. Cops, and their animals are treated with complete deference by courts. The day will come, when people will just put down cops with the same emotion that cops put down dogs. I don’t want to see it happen, but it will be a good thing for them to fear law abiding people, and treat them like the sovereign citizens they should be.
This ever happens at my house there will be video to back my story
Oh, my gosh. That does NOT look like a pitbull.
The American Bulldog or the Boxer is not the “druggies dog of choice.”
LOTS of dogs “force” their way out of doors — like Labs, Spaniels, Poodles, Chihuahuas, Scottish Terriers, and yes, Boxers and American Bulldogs.
This is not a Pit Bull. Contrary, to popular prejudiced opinion.
Law Enforcement are generally not trained on dog breeds, dog behavior, or dog body language. SOME LEOs are trigger-happy when it comes to dogs, because they bring their own personal fears of dogs into the situation. Anyone with dog experience can tell the difference between a FRIENDLY charging dog and an aggressive charging dog. And even aggressively charging dogs generally don't attack. Most aggressive dogs are “all bark and no bite.”
Besides, if the dog was acting aggressive to two Police Officers who were talking to the dog's owners in the yard at the time, the owners would have intervened (unless both owners were insane at the time), because no rational dog owner would allow their dog to behave aggressively towards two Police Officers who were merely standing in their front yard.
No, I was not there — but I did watch the video. And I do know dogs, and I do know LEOs who are terrified of dogs and who have stated to me that they would not hesitate to shoot a dog, any dog, that they PERCEIVED to be acting aggressively. Perception is the key — because these same LEOs have admitted knowing NOTHING about dogs, nothing about dog behavior, nothing about dog body language, nothing about the difference between excited barking and aggressive barking... And their Police Departments have spent exactly ZERO hours of training Police Officers on dogs. They only know how to “stop the threat” by use of force. In fact, I know of one case where they called a fellow Officer a pu**y for jumping onto the roof of a car to AVOID killing an aggressive dog. That Officer happened to like dogs, and although he wasn't sure whether the dog would bite him or not, he knew the dog didn't deserve to die for doing his job and protecting his own property. So he jumped onto the roof of a car, rather than shooting the dog, and he was ridiculed by his fellow Police Officers.
Police have to protect themselves — there is no doubt about that. But they should do so with proper training and due restraint before using deadly force, just like they do with humans.
No wild assumption. The dog broke out of the house and attack the cops and the dog is dead, end of event.
“In fact, I know of one case where they called a fellow Officer a pu**y for jumping onto the roof of a car to AVOID killing an aggressive dog. That Officer happened to like dogs, and although he wasn’t sure whether the dog would bite him or not, he knew the dog didn’t deserve to die for doing his job and protecting his own property. So he jumped onto the roof of a car, rather than shooting the dog, and he was ridiculed by his fellow Police Officers.”
It sounds like he’s one of the good ones.
I am sorry that he has been ridiculed for refusing to conform to the union collective mentality on the subject of shooting house dogs, but please tell him to keep up the good work.
I agree. Thanks, I’ll tell him.
It’s not macho to kill dogs. It’s rather pathetic really.
That’s the best you got? LOL
Shoot a dog. That will make you feel more manly.
Another silly yawner, all stuff made up in your own mind, like the first.
The dog did not attack anyone.
No he was not able to tell what his intentions were, so I will take the deputies word for it.
Yeah cause we know cops never lie and never shoot dogs for no reason.
And THAT is what makes you ignorant.
That has got to be the most stupid conclusion from a simple article I have ever seen.
Nope, don't talk to cops.......period.....
Sometimes I wonder what is wrong with me, then I see someone like you and realize that I’m probably okay. You might be okay as well, but I don’t want to find out.
Why, the only idiots that I have know that would own such a POS are druggies, or trailer park trash.
I have done plenty of soul searching and studying and I know I am okay. It’s the rest of the world that’s on the crazy train wanting to go as fast as possible off the cliff.
Only the public pays - with taxes and lives for actions of incompetent cops. Why is that?
Actually it looks like - and evidently is - a Boxer.
You just showed exactly why “breed bans” are bad.
In some ways I don’t blame the cops, but at the same time, I marvel how many are scared to death by dogs and further, just shoot them. Seems to me cop school should include some instruction on the typical behavior of dogs (they are, after all, natural guards - but often it stops at alarm-calling unless you provoke them further) and when to REALLY be afraid.
>That looks like a pitbull.<
It looks like what it is, a brindle boxer. Boxers get mistaken for pit bulls fairly often.
>The deputy broke the pit-bull down with the first round and put him out of his pain with the last one. Common sense 101.<
Except the brave deputy was not facing a pit bull. He killed the family’s pet boxer which simply ran out the door.
Common sense? Not quite.
Frankly, as are you and most people here assuming like crazy.
You are assuming the dog did NOT “attack”, while there is no hard evidence, just several conflicting hearsay stories. You’ve also been assuming it’s suspicious that the dog was ALLEGEDLY (we know how reliable early reports are) shot in the BACK of the head, because surely that means the dog wasn’t attacking, even though it was 1 of TWO shots. Which could mean anything. The head-shot blabbers have been going on about this as if it was the only shot. (Meanwhile, org. is assuming they “put him out of his misery” with that shot, while there is nothing in the article to support this.)
Never mind the Pit-Bull Terrier assumptions going on (Boxer, more likely - as an alleged neighbor chimed in).
Way too many assumptions going on here. People are way too glib about just exactly what happened - based on their own pre-conceived notions and prejudices.
If John Q. Citizen is supposed to consider a police dog as an equal to a police officer
why do the police consider John Q. Citizen’s dogs to be a disposable nuisance?
I actually hate to think what my reaction would be if one of my dogs were shot like that.The second shot would quite possibly have to be in my direction.I wouldn’t blame the cop either,because he would be in zero doubt about my intentions.
We’re not assuming that the police shot the dog when all they did was stop to ask questions.
Surely avoidable with a few less steroids.
You got that right.
You’re a moron.
You really need to read up on the facts of the case. It was NOT a no-knock warrant. It was NOT the middle of the night. It was a VALID search warrant. He THREATENED them with an assault rifle. A tragedy to be sure. And maybe the warrant was obtained on shaky grounds, but the SWAT unit serving the warrant didn’t know that. Beyond the validity of the warrant, SWAT had been briefed that Guerena was considered armed and dangerous. I think the whole thing stinks but the SWAT officers at the door were rightfully defending themselves.
I may have muffed a few of the facts in my correction rant. But if you think one of our war vets dying in gunfire - because the cops got the wrong house and had no damn business being there in the first place - and he reacted naturally by trying to defending himself, then you are still wrong about him being killed for a GOOD reason? What a moronic statement that was.
Video of the raid:
The whole thing stunk to high hell, and still does.
“- and he reacted naturally by trying to defending himself, then you are still wrong about him being killed for a GOOD reason? What a moronic statement that was.
I could say,”See my previous post” but I’ll give the short version again;
It was NOT the wrong house. They had a valid search warrant for THAT house.
The search warrant meant they HAD business there.
The men with POLICE stenciled on their chests, the MARKED police cars, the siren, the officer banging on the door shouting, “Police. We have a warrant, open the door!” all should have been clues to the wife it was the police outside. By the way, all of the above is supported by the video. I say he was shot for a good reason because pointing an assault rifle at a SWAT team IS a good reason for them to shoot you.
I know your hatred for the police probably blinds you to fact but you should take a look at this thread. Be warned most of the people posting ARE police: