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GM recalling Chevrolet Sonics to check brake pads
onlineathens.com ^ | 12-30-11

Posted on 12/30/2011 9:30:35 AM PST by rawhide

DETROIT — General Motors Co. said on Friday that it is recalling more than 4,000 of its 2012 Chevrolet Sonic subcompact cars to check for missing brake pads.

The possibility that some Sonics could be missing an inner or outer brake pad was discovered during warranty service for a rental vehicle customer. GM said the problem “is expected to exist in very few cars,” and there are no known crashes or injuries related to the issue. A missing pad could require longer stopping distance, and contribute to a crash.

Dealers will inspect the front brakes for missing inner or outer pads and, if a pad is missing, install new pads. If needed, a new brake caliper or brake rotor, or both, will also be installed. Affected customers will receive dealer letters beginning Jan. 14

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: brake; chevolet; pads; sonic
Oops! Very major problem here!


1 posted on 12/30/2011 9:30:45 AM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Gummit Motors quality problem. I don’t even think Commie cars were typically infamous for this level of oversight.


2 posted on 12/30/2011 9:33:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Gummit Motors quality problem. I don’t even think Commie cars were typically infamous for this level of oversight.”

Anybody would stick their family into one of these toilets on wheels needs their head examined.


3 posted on 12/30/2011 9:38:27 AM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: rawhide

Some of those GM guys should stop hitting the bong at lunch.


4 posted on 12/30/2011 9:38:35 AM PST by duckman (Herman 2012 was Zero's worst night mare.)
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To: rawhide

I once had an aftermarket brake pad delaminate from the metal backing plate.

This was on a rear wheel. There was an immediate and significant loss of pedal and braking ability - and I still had a good size metal plate as a brake pad to rub against the rotor.

It’s hard to imagine a vehicle with missing pads even stopping, much less not making all sorts of noises as the caliper assembly and piston grinds itself away on the rotor.

I’m surprised the piston didn’t pop out of it’s bore with all the extra clearance.


5 posted on 12/30/2011 9:41:19 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: jessduntno

Obama Motors is a sad joke now.


6 posted on 12/30/2011 9:46:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: rawhide

I’m pretty sure you can punch out the floorboard of one of these tin cans and use your feet, Flintstone-style.


7 posted on 12/30/2011 9:46:35 AM PST by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: rawhide

These are the results when quality control is handled by union labor overseen by democRAT managers with gubment ownership.


8 posted on 12/30/2011 9:48:17 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

This shows what government and Unions working hand in hand produce!


9 posted on 12/30/2011 9:49:14 AM PST by E.K. Crossbow
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To: chrisser

Perhaps the brake modulation system on these very new vehicles tells the still functional pair of brakes to kick in harder. But it ought to also turn the instrument panel idiot light on. Being found in a rental car, the average customer probably isn’t going to care if the instrument panel lights up like a Christmas tree, as long as the car still goes. A person who purchased the car would care more.


10 posted on 12/30/2011 9:51:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: rawhide

they wouldn’t notice that screeching metal on metal noise?
how friggin clueless is the owner/operator if they haven’t brought them back on their own?


11 posted on 12/30/2011 9:55:16 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: rawhide

Cars may be missing brake pads, and GM is going to send them a letter on January 14?
“Dear Chevrolet Sonic owner; if you are still alive, please take this letter and your car to the nearest Chevrolet repair facility.”


12 posted on 12/30/2011 9:59:02 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

These new smart systems may be so smart that they would not even try to apply pressure to a brake unit with that kind of egregious slack. Instead you’d just get the best possible braking out of the other wheels and a discreet little red light on the instrument panel.


13 posted on 12/30/2011 10:08:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: rawhide

Always look for the union label. Means quality does not exist.


14 posted on 12/30/2011 10:12:57 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: rawhide
I suspect the fault is more from a supplier than than from GM or their employees. I seriously doubt that any automobile assembly line installs brake pads. They are a very small component of much larger components (wheel assemblies) that arrive at the assembly plant.
That said, I wonder how those assemblies got into the GM plant. How those assemblies got installed on the automobile. And last how those assemblies were missed at the final inspection.
15 posted on 12/30/2011 10:18:38 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: rawhide

America is really dumbed down, if it takes a RECALL for owners to find out all that noise, squealing and shitty uneven braking isn’t normal.


16 posted on 12/30/2011 10:30:55 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

This was no accident. The redundancy in quality assurance alone makes this suspect. This reeks of union sabotage


17 posted on 12/30/2011 10:32:23 AM PST by Figment
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The piston in the caliper is probably not metal and wouldn’t make much noise. I can’t imagine someone not noticing the poor braking though. The omission of the pads during assembly though, almost has to be intentional


18 posted on 12/30/2011 10:37:57 AM PST by Figment
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To: Tupelo

How those assemblies got installed on the automobile. And last how those assemblies were missed at the final inspection.

Bingo.Your questions are right on the money and can’t be answered with just an every day human error. This had to intentional on someone or several someones part.There needs to be a criminal investigation


19 posted on 12/30/2011 10:45:30 AM PST by Figment
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To: rawhide

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/business/with-chevrolet-sonic-gm-and-uaw-reinvent-automaking.html?_r=1


20 posted on 12/30/2011 10:52:36 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Figment

Yeah, you’d think that “Brake pad in position, check” should be on more than one inspector’s list. Either getting the collusion of all the inspectors, or taking the darn things off after the inspections, sounds like what is happening. How dare they stab their buddy boy ‘Bama in the back like that?!?


21 posted on 12/30/2011 10:55:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Figment

Something cynical is going on.

Back in the day when the UAW had differences with Chevy about how many of their then-new Vega should be processed through the line per hour. They torqued fasteners down way past their specs. I came across this personally in a shock absorber mounting bolt that had to be sawed off — the threads had been stretched way past normal.


22 posted on 12/30/2011 11:02:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah, you’d think that “Brake pad in position, check” should be on more than one inspector’s list. Either getting the collusion of all the inspectors, or taking the darn things off after the inspections, sounds like what is happening. How dare they stab their buddy boy ‘Bama in the back like that?!?

I don’t just think that is on the inspectors checklist, I know it for a fact. I work in the part supply industry and you have to jump through hoops with QA. I doubt it’s collusion of inspectors, that would involve too many people to keep a secret. Taking them off is the most likely scenario, and if it involves more than one person, one of them will talk


23 posted on 12/30/2011 11:29:30 AM PST by Figment
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To: rawhide

On the other hand, I have a 03 Silverado 2500 with over 60K and never had/needed a brake job or tune up.


24 posted on 12/30/2011 11:43:43 AM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: duckman

Must be some former Chrysler UAW workers staffing that GM plant:

http://www.torquenews.com/106/chrysler-uaw-workers-caught-drinking-smoking-pot-during-lunch-–-third-time


25 posted on 12/30/2011 12:55:25 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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