Posted on 12/31/2011 2:00:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
December 31, 2011
Kevin Liptak
(CNN) - Four candidates left off the Virginia Republican primary ballot joined Rick Perry Saturday in suing the state's board of elections over laws they say are "unconstitutional."
Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum joined the lawsuit, originally filed Tuesday, challenging provisions that determine who can appear on the primary ballot.
All five candidates filing the lawsuit failed to qualify for the ballot.
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...
http://www.rpv.org/node/1037
“Candidates were officially informed of the 15,000 rule in October 2011, well in advance of the Dec. 22 submission deadline.”
So much for your conspiracy theory.
§ 24.2-545
“...at least 10,000 qualified voters, including at least 400 qualified voters from each congressional district in the Commonwealth,”
Qualified voters in your world may include creatures “from Mars” LOL!
You probably let people from other states, countries and planets vote there too ‘to be fair’...
So much for your conspiracy theory.
A little more info that was available to the candidates should they chose to review and follow. Thus this wasn’t done in the dark as some would claim.
Deadlines, Duties and
Ballot Access Requirements
Presidential Primary Election
Tuesday, March 6, 2012
ADOPTED BY THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS ON MAY 25, 2011
.....snip down to the following:
Ballot Access Requirements
Candidates wishing to participate in the presidential primary must follow the procedures outlined
below.
Primary Filing Fee
§ 24.2-524
NO filing fee is required for the presidential primary.
Consent/Declaration
§ 24.2-545 B
This is a combined form.
Consent - Part A must be completed by the candidate if
petitions are circulated and filed by a separate group
organized in Virginia on behalf of the person seeking the
nomination of the national political party. If the group is
organized by the candidate Part A is not required to be
completed.
Declaration - Part B must be completed by the candidate.
The candidate must sign Part A, if applicable, and Part B of
this document before a notary or other officer authorized to
administer oaths.
Petition Requirements
§ 24.2-545
Circulate on or after July 1, 2011;
Must be on the form prescribed by the State Board of
Elections (copy enclosed). It is suggested that the candidate
or group complete the top portion of the petition form and then
print or photocopy as many copies of the form as needed.
The form may not be altered in any way. Must be signed by
not less than 10,000 qualified voters in Virginia, including at
least 400 qualified voters from each of Virginia’s eleven
congressional districts, who attest that they intend to
participate in the primary of the same political party as the
candidate named on the petition.
Because many people who are not registered to vote will sign
a petition, it is recommended that 15,000 - 20,000 signatures
be obtained with at least 700 signatures from each
congressional district.
Must provide the true signature, the printed full name and the
full resident address of each qualified voter and the date each
signed the petition.
Although the last four digits of the social security number is
requested, it is not mandatory that it be provided.
Must, on each page, provide an affidavit signed under oath by
the person who circulated it that s/he personally witnessed the
affixing of the signature of each voter on the page and that
s/he is registered, or eligible to be registered, to vote in
Virginia.
Note that a circulator cannot witness his own signature.
Falsely signing this affidavit is a felony under Virginia law.
The petition NEVER can be left unattended. It is suggested
that petition pages be filed in locality order (counties followed
by cities) to facilitate the processing of the filing. The State
Board recommends that each petition page contain signatures
from only one county or city and, therefore, circulators should
prepare a separate petition page for each locality. If signatures
are tracked by congressional district you may enter the district
number on each petition page.
Petitions for a primary election must be delivered in sealed
containers. These containers may be opened only by the
State Chair of the candidate=s party. Immediately after the
filing deadline, the containers, together with any required
attachments (see below), will be delivered to that Chair by the
State Board of Elections.
A statement, signed by the candidate under oath, setting
forth his name and the number of signatures on the petitions
in the sealed containers must be attached to the first
container. See Suggested Oath on the next page.
Petition Requirements
If the Party’s delegates will be selected at the primary
election, then a list of the names of persons who would be
elected delegates and alternate delegates to the political
party=s national convention if the candidate wins the
primary, also must be attached to the first sealed container
of the candidate=s petitions. The slate of delegates and
alternates must comply with the rules of the national and state
party.
If the Party’s delegates will be selected using state and
congressional district conventions, then NO list of delegates
and alternate delegates is required.
Must be filed with the State Board of Elections no later than
5:00 p.m. on Thursday, December 22, 2011.
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Oh really!? Thanks for posting that. I’m not surprised that Mittens sigs were not examined. Can’t look too close in Mitten’s case, he might be discovered for the lying sack he is.
Mr. R ping.
I’d like to believe you, but can you dive a bit into your two supporting links:
For non-pres, it says:
10,000 signatures, including the signatures of at least 400 qualified voters from each...
Okay, sounds like mickey mouses can apply, as long as there are 400 real non-mickey-mouse voters per district. I’d go out on a limb a bit on this, as it depends on what the meaning of “qualified” is - but I’m assuming somewhere else it defines it as a current registered R/U.
In the pres case, it says:
10,000 qualified voters, including at least 400 qualified voters from each...
so, it would appear to me, the as yet unconvinced, that the pres is a bit more restricted in that the 10000 total cannot be of the mickey-mouse flavor.
How do I have this wrong (I *WANT* to believe, but cannot yet)?
Wow. So the establishment RINOs have now become as criminal as the Democrats. This is stunning.
bttt for #79
Think it's one of those *It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..........* things.
What's even more telling, the MSM is helping the *Rinos* just like they would be *Rats*(on a smaller scale, the trolls here on FR also)...........For the time being.
The excellent Texas BOOM TOWN Goose Step. It’s a joy to behold.
Very good news.
Wow...imagine that...”our” candidates actually working TOGETHER for a common goal instead of attacking each other...
Imagine that....Will wonders never cease, huh?
Hi, Orgie! It’s nice to see you, stranger! I hope that you’re doing well and have a Happy New Year.
But since they tried to get actual signatures, and in newt's case exceeded 13000, he did not qualify.
OK
Doing Well took a trip, feeling fine, same to you.
The thrust of my post clearly wasn't to discuss the de jure specifics of the legal case, but rather the de facto reality that 10k, or 15k, 'collected' signatures this year didn't result in nearly as many 'accepted' signatures as the same number of 'collected' signatures in the past and the claimed explanation was more thorough signature checking based on a pending law suit. The changed validation process invalidates criticism of Messrs. Gingrich and Perry's failure to reach 10k through comparison with the relative ease of reaching it in prior years, a criticism many made initially. Finding that many submitted petition signatures were ineligible suggests that bothering to check at election time would turn up ineligible voters as well.
I wasn't trying to comment on the specifics of either Gov. Perry's lawsuit nor of the actions by Virginia's AG that have been joined by 4 other candidates. The hopes of three of the latter (including 'my' candidate) to get on the ballot, in spite of submitting no signatures, also requires more legal mental agility than I possess. I not only have no idea how the legal process will turn out, I don't believe any result there much affects my points.
I'd seen reported that the VA GOP changed to these procedures proactively trying to avoid future legal challenges which might arise from a pending lawsuit. So I assumed they were now trying to follow the law strictly and believed their prior procedures might now be adjudicated as not following the law strictly enough. I wasn't intentionally "making stuff up," certainly not for or against any particular candidate. I was trying to express my interpretation based what had been reported, what seemed to fit the actions of the VA GOP, and my personal bias for tighter election standards.
Thank you. [smiles]
Thanks for the ping, and I hope Virginia is made to do the right and fair thing for all candidates. It was so transparently biased as to be ridiculous!
“Any half brain could post the following:”
Why don’t you dispose of the insults for the new year and explain why you advocate the Federal Courts dictating to a state and a state political party how they must operate their Primary Elections?
Do you want the Federal Courts to dictate to all states and all political parties how they must operate their Primary Elections or do you only want the Federal Courts to intervene when it is convenient for you?
Are you a hypocrite or are you simply a Cafeteria Constitutionalist who wants to pick and choose when the Constitution should and should not be followed?
And meanwhile, how is the loyalty oath issue working for the VA GOP?? I suspect a massive stay-at-home vote.
[The excellent Texas BOOM TOWN Goose Step. It’s a joy to behold.]
LOL, after you do the boot-kickin, you ‘Waltz Across Texas’!
Happy New Year TOL!
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