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Ranger shot, killed at Mt. Rainier National Park; suspect at large
King TV (Seattle) ^ | January 1, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/01/2012 2:32:04 PM PST by QT3.14

A U.S. Forest Service ranger at Mount Rainier National Park has been shot and killed, and the gunman is at large.

The ranger has been identifed as 34-year-old Margaret Anderson.

The shooting occurred at 10:11 a.m. near Longmire Ranger Station.

(Excerpt) Read more at king5.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: lawenforcement; longmire; margaretanderson; mtrainier; nationalpark; officerdown; rainier; rangerstation
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1 posted on 01/01/2012 2:32:14 PM PST by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14
What a terrible story.

Things like that don't happen every day in the U.S. Forest Service.

2 posted on 01/01/2012 2:40:10 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: QT3.14

bttt


3 posted on 01/01/2012 2:41:07 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989

Wonder if the ranger stumbled onto some pot fields or something?


4 posted on 01/01/2012 2:41:57 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: QT3.14

Oh-oh; this is definietly not good.

A missing hiker’s body was found dead up on Mt.Rainier a couple weeks ago. Because he was an orthodox Jew, no autopsy was performed. It is believed that the man died of hypothermia, yet his body was heavily bruised. His family was very, very opposed to an autopsy and demanded his body, which was flown to Israel and buried in Jerusalem.

Now this murder of a Ranger. It isn’t safe to hike anymore.


5 posted on 01/01/2012 2:42:17 PM PST by SatinDoll (/O FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

Interesting post. I’m assuming either a nutbag or a pot farmer. Prayers for the Ranger.


6 posted on 01/01/2012 2:48:54 PM PST by catbertz (Easter egg...I wants it.)
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To: Mmogamer
No, more likely. And illegal elk kill, given the time of year.
7 posted on 01/01/2012 2:50:38 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: SatinDoll

Where was the judge that prohibited the autopsy at the time of this shooting?


8 posted on 01/01/2012 2:51:22 PM PST by PAR35
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To: QT3.14

The pos is on foot now but with a rifle. The officer leaves a 4 and a 2 year old. It would be hard for me to just arrest the pos but then there are reasons I never wanted a career in law enforcement. Prayers for the trackers.


9 posted on 01/01/2012 2:52:44 PM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: catbertz

I wonder if the ranger was shot with an Obamagun from Fast+Furious.


10 posted on 01/01/2012 2:53:36 PM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of Islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Mmogamer
Wonder if the ranger stumbled onto some pot fields or something?

Not likely, as the entire park is under several feet of snow.
11 posted on 01/01/2012 2:54:08 PM PST by microgood
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To: catbertz
Tempture on the mountain today, high 40 low 23, tomorrow, freezing and snowing. Have never seen winter pot, unless it was metal.
12 posted on 01/01/2012 2:54:21 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: catbertz

It is pretty late in the season to be a pot farmer.


13 posted on 01/01/2012 2:55:23 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SatinDoll
Was just out hiking & camping in a Nation Forest this past weekend.

The only people we saw on the trail (near the trail) during the weekend was a group of hunters drifting across our front. Since they were slightly ahead of us we gave them the right of way and informed them of what trail we were taking. We were clear so we all parted with a friendly wave.

14 posted on 01/01/2012 3:02:56 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PAR35

I don’t know about the locaion of the judge; most likely Olympia.

But one of the officials in the investigation was not happy with the deceased man’s family. This official wanted an autopsy done, believing the circumstances behind the death suspect.

This latest icident reinforces that suspicion.


15 posted on 01/01/2012 3:04:38 PM PST by SatinDoll (/O FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: billorites

it’s been legal since Feb 2010 to carry a loaded firearm in a national park if you have a permit to do so. Does anyone believe that a law abiding citizen was ever any worry in the first place? Forbid guns in the Parks, will not the criminals still do whatever damage they choose? I wouldn’t want to go hiking without my pistol. Just dumb not to be able to protect yourself from whatever and whoever.


16 posted on 01/01/2012 3:07:49 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: USNBandit

LOL OK so pot farmer has a solid alibi.


17 posted on 01/01/2012 3:09:48 PM PST by catbertz (Easter egg...I wants it.)
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To: QT3.14

What was a Forest Service ( Dept of Agriculture) ranger doing in a National Park (Dept of the interior National Park Service)?


18 posted on 01/01/2012 3:11:43 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SatinDoll; org.whodat

When I lived in Washington State, my 12 acres of land and house backed up to a 1000 acre State forest land. There was an old logging road there blocked by a locked gate. People were constantly breaking the lock on the gate and driving back into the 1000 acres. One man had a trailer back there where he kept mean dogs tethered as protection. The state DNR would do nothing to keep these intruders out.

From time to time, we’d hear gun shots back there at midnight. No Sheriff’s deputy would go back to investigate, nor did I blame them. We were moving to another state, and my husband’s tools were stolen from a detached garage the night he left. That and a can of “gas”. Nobody would investigate, even when I pointed out that the “gas” was really diesel, and a car was left disabled on the logging road a short distance from the gate. They just gave me a report number for the insurance company claim.

My house and land were beautiful and ethereal, but I was glad to move. My house eventually was sold to the State for a ranger station — the fanciest ranger station in the whole USA. I venture no other ranger station has such an elegent (or expensive) chandelier in the entry hall!


19 posted on 01/01/2012 3:18:05 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
True, Some of those western mountains still have people living off the land types. Basically what algores friend, the unabomber, was doing.
20 posted on 01/01/2012 3:32:38 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: Mmogamer; catbertz

The article indicates that other Rangers had attempted to pull the car over, but the car fled and encountered a roadblock set up a mile down the road, and it was there that the ranger was shot. Unlikely that it was anything the shot ranger had done, and probably not anything to do with the park per se, but some one who didn’t wamt to be run through a computer.


21 posted on 01/01/2012 3:40:34 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks for the story. Law and order in the western states has really slid, hasn’t it. How sad.


22 posted on 01/01/2012 3:47:28 PM PST by SatinDoll (/O FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: QT3.14

I hope to read tomorrow that he was shot and killed while trying to escape.


23 posted on 01/01/2012 3:54:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Hieronymus

Why are park rangers attempting pursuit, and setting up roadblocks? Answer, since they were armed. We even militarize Ranger Rick.


24 posted on 01/01/2012 3:58:20 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: QT3.14; Just Lori; Libertina; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; Ramius; ...
WA Ping

Lawlessness is breaking out all over.
25 posted on 01/01/2012 4:06:49 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: SatinDoll; billorites
Now this murder of a Ranger. It isn’t safe to hike anymore.

Got news, that area wasn't safe to hike when I was a green 2LT in the US Army stationed at Fort Lewis in the early 1980s. Even back then, a buddy of mine was nearly killed by an IED laid along an isolated mountain trail by a pot farmer. If the trip wire hadn't been white monofilament and the point guy a 'Nam vet SFC (E-7), the damn thing could have wiped out a section of troops, like maybe 20 guys. As it was we were all evacuated from the training area via CH47 choppers while EOD and the MP's flew in. Also, serial killers have always abounded in the area. Look at Ted Bundy and the Green River Killer to name but two. I know there have been many more. The area is simply perfect for that sub-species.

All the officers I knew in the infantry back then always carried one or two mags of live ammo just in case. Of course they were always kept carefully apart from the training blanks. Still, doing so was a clear case of the time honored infantry game we called "BET YOUR BARS" Because if you were ever caught, even if you had to use them to drive off the bad guys, you were going to get a court martial and lose your A$$. We were constantly being briefed by the FBI and BATF (before they added the "E") on biker gangs who were looking to steal arms or ordnance from the military. A working M60 LMG could bring plenty big $$$$. To them it was worth a certain amount of risk if they could get us near a road and figured we'd not be carrying live ammo. So we "O's" tended to play that game and also drew extra supplies of flares (trip & parachute) and tear gas for training... lol.

Moreover, being a Park Ranger got more dangerous in the 1990s. When the true flood of illegals really started to roll in singles and in groups from the smugglers. Back then it quickly became a shift from Ranger Rick to Ranger Rambo as they started being issued M16s and other equipment from the military, especially in the area of surveillance and weapon mounted night optics.

26 posted on 01/01/2012 4:19:24 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: SatinDoll
So, do you imagine the family in Israel may well know of SOMEBODY ELSE visiting Mt. Ranier?

Time for some questioning I'd think.

27 posted on 01/01/2012 4:21:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: bert

KING got it wrong, she was a Park Service Ranger.

http://www.odmp.org/officer/21076-park-ranger-margaret-anderson


28 posted on 01/01/2012 4:24:40 PM PST by HiJinx (I can (still) see Mexico from my back porch.)
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To: muawiyah

Yeah obviously theres a conspiracy going on. Forget the religion, just jump over there and waterboard those joos.


29 posted on 01/01/2012 4:25:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

In case of a major theft or a murder it’s usually the right thing to do ~ interrogate those who are most anxious to move on.


30 posted on 01/01/2012 4:27:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

So you want to interrogate the family in Israel? Why am I not surprised.


31 posted on 01/01/2012 4:30:04 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mmogamer

She and another ranger were making a felony stop when the suspect started shooting. They weren’t able to get to her for 3 hours because of gunfire from the suspect.


32 posted on 01/01/2012 4:32:11 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SatinDoll

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/adventure/2011/12/14/new-york-man-brian-grobois-apparently-got-lost/ says the guy is from New Rochelle NY, was a psychiatrist who’d published various items about drug addiction and abuse, and just sat there and died of hypothermia. He was 54. Do we have the same guy?


33 posted on 01/01/2012 4:32:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: All
Washington Post reporting her husband is also a NP ranger and was on-duty elsewhere in the park at the time of the shooting.

Also Update of shooting incident

34 posted on 01/01/2012 4:33:34 PM PST by QT3.14 (Life is not a dress rehearsal - it is Showtime!!)
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To: Mmogamer

Wonder if the ranger stumbled onto some pot fields or something?

Yup. They grow all kinds of dope at 12,000 feet!


35 posted on 01/01/2012 4:37:32 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I venture no other ranger station has such an elegent (or expensive) chandelier in the entry hall!

I bet it 'got lost' and is in some gummint employee's hall now.

36 posted on 01/01/2012 4:37:54 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: driftdiver

Well why not. Brian lived in New Rochelle NY.


37 posted on 01/01/2012 4:40:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: QT3.14

RIP.


38 posted on 01/01/2012 4:41:01 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: SatinDoll

Probably Tacoma.

Mt. Rainier is in Pierce County, abt 28 miles SE of where I live, also in Pierce County.

Olympia is in Thurston County.


39 posted on 01/01/2012 4:41:01 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: driftdiver

I’d want the same for you.


40 posted on 01/01/2012 4:42:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

why thanks for trying to turn a thread about the killing of this park ranger into a flame war.

p.s. I’d leave you on the side of the road


41 posted on 01/01/2012 4:45:34 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Good luck on the chandelier. I was told by some cabinet makers who came back to retrofit some doors for us that it took the electricians 3 days to hang that chandelier (we were 3rd owners of the place). It had about 21 arms — each fitted with a volley-ball sized crackle-glass globe. It weighed a ton. There was a smaller version in the dining room.

The house had been originally built by a doctor from Bellevue whose wife found out that she didn’t like living in the woods.


42 posted on 01/01/2012 4:50:38 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ExSoldier
Moreover, being a Park Ranger got more dangerous in the 1990s. When the true flood of illegals really started to roll in singles and in groups from the smugglers.

Exactly, and a good example when the last ranger to die by gunfire took place in 2002 in AZ:

Ranger Kristopher Eggle was shot and killed while he and several U.S. Border Patrol Agents attempted to apprehended two armed, illegal aliens.

The suspects had fled from Mexican authorities into Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, Arizona at 1400 hours. The Mexican authorities called the Border Patrol and notified them of the suspects. A Border Patrol helicopter in the area located the suspects and directed Ranger Eggle and Border Patrol Agents to the area.

One of the suspects was apprehended without incident, but the second suspect opened fire with an AK-47 rifle. Ranger Eggle was struck below his vest, causing a fatal wound. The suspect then fled on foot south toward the Mexican border. He ran to approximately fifty yards from the border, where approximately 30 to 50 Mexican officers from numerous agencies opened fire from Mexico killing him. A medivac helicopter was sent to the scene, but Ranger Eggle had already succumbed to his wounds.

The suspect who was arrested during the incident was sentenced to 15.5 years in prison.

Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/16353-park-ranger-kristopher-william-eggle#ixzz1iFeGqHSG

43 posted on 01/01/2012 4:51:00 PM PST by QT3.14 (Life is not a dress rehearsal - it is Showtime!!)
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To: djf

Well, that is wicked high...


44 posted on 01/01/2012 5:05:06 PM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: driftdiver

What a strange answer. No, if you died suspiciously I’d want a full autopsy and if folks tried to get in the way I’d want them questioned. That would apply even if they lived in a foreign country, and I don’t particularly care what their religion is.


45 posted on 01/01/2012 5:08:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: org.whodat
Basically what algores friend, the unabomber, was doing.
Friends? Hell, they were twins.
46 posted on 01/01/2012 5:23:19 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I would have taken the chandelier :- )


47 posted on 01/01/2012 5:28:25 PM PST by katykelly
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To: muawiyah

I believe so.

His family said he loved to hike, and died doing what he loved. As I recall, he wasn’t from the Pacific Northwest but from somewhere back east.

His body was discovered prone, lying on the ground. The people who found him as first thought he was sleeping. The problem with “just sat there and died of hypothermia” is it doesn’t result in a body covered with bruises.


48 posted on 01/01/2012 5:36:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (/O FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: oh8eleven

ROFLOL, LOL, good one.


49 posted on 01/01/2012 5:38:33 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: SatinDoll

“The problem with “just sat there and died of hypothermia” is it doesn’t result in a body covered with bruises.”

Stumbling around in the woods after your coordination goes does.


50 posted on 01/01/2012 5:47:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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