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Report: Iran Tells Departed US Carrier To 'Stay Out Of Persian Gulf'
YNet ^ | 3 Jan 2012 | News Agencies

Posted on 01/03/2012 4:15:20 AM PST by edpc

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To: Boomer One
There's always that. However, they're in charge and have their fingers on the trigger. Modern warfare has attempted to be a bit to fine and surgical. A direct conflict with Iran would likely follow the same path as Iraq in many respects. The Basijj would blend in with the types of people you mentioned and wage guerrilla warfare, not caring who gets killed in the process. Naturally, it would all be blamed on the US and its allies.
41 posted on 01/03/2012 7:35:29 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yassur, sho’ don’t wan’ ta cause no trouble round here Mr. Chineeman, eye’s be goin’ now. “feets do yo’ stuff.’’


42 posted on 01/03/2012 7:39:05 AM PST by jmacusa
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To: rllngrk33
"If our president had any gonads, he'd park a carrier right in the middleof the straits and dare them to try something. Any attack would be met with the total destruction of their military and infrastructure. But then, I'm just dreaming aren't I?"

Yeah, OK.

Jeez.

43 posted on 01/03/2012 7:40:23 AM PST by misanthrope ("...Everybody look what's goin' down.")
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To: panaxanax

I remember a state-run, lame-stream media report broadcast many years ago in which Momar Khaddaffy was shown riding in what looked like a PT Boat out to sea. The state-run media reported that Khaddaffy was “chasing away the U.S. Fleet”.


44 posted on 01/03/2012 7:45:17 AM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Boomer One
I worked with Iranians who fled Iran during my 25 years in the DC area. From what I hear, we should not confuse what Iran's leaders say with what the people want.

AMEN! I too worked with some of those guys, and even to this day they still tell me there is a huge liking for the U.S. that never gets past their leaders. Anyone who thinks Iranians en masse are like their leaders is off base.

The "carriers" remark by their leaders reminds me of some dogs in our area. We walk by them on a daily basis and they never bark - until we are past them. Then they sound like the Hound of the Baskervilles.

45 posted on 01/03/2012 7:49:57 AM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: DJ Taylor
At least half of Iran's population joyfully achieves Martyrdom and enters Paradise.

They lost about a million people in their war with Iraq. I think most Iranians have absolutely no taste for war with anyone, least of all, the U.S. They saw how the U.S. military buzz-sawed through the Iraqi Army they had fought to a standstill after ten years. My bet is that most Persian mothers want to see their children grow up in freedom and peace, things that do not appear to be on offer in their corner of the world.

46 posted on 01/03/2012 10:18:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: X-spurt
Obama is no leader. I am not saying this out of rancor, it is a simple true observation. His handling of the Gulf oil spill was symptomatic of his lack of leadership. He made high handed demands = “Just plug the damned hole!” - rather than understanding issues and alternatives, taking responsibility for results and communicating goals and priorities. Same on healthcare. He gave a wave of his hand and left the heavy lifting to Pelosi and Reid, two supremely ill-equipped individuals.

I seriously fear that Obama could actually lose a military confrontation with Iraq. In 1940, France had a larger and better equipped army than Germany, and unlike Germany, had a world class navy, was defending a single front, had powerful allies on the ground, including the British Army and RAF, the tacit support of her neighbors and other neutrals. The Maginot Line *successfully* narrowed the front that needed to be defended, forcing the invaders to go through well armed neutrals, Belgium and Holland.

How could they lose?

They had appallingly bad leadership.

47 posted on 01/03/2012 10:30:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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48 posted on 01/03/2012 11:44:14 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: edpc

If Ronald Reagan was President, or even George Bush, either of them, that carrier would be transiting the straits inbound to the Persian Gulf as we type.

With F/A-18s armed for ground and surface attack, as well as air defense, spotted on deck. And a big sign on the Island saying “Up Yours”.


49 posted on 01/03/2012 7:24:13 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: edpc
I'll never forgive them.

That's nothing. My mother-in-law's 12th birthday was 7 Dec 1941.

She still hasn't forgiven the Japanese.

50 posted on 01/03/2012 7:51:08 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Sicon
Maybe we should park a second carrier group in the neighborhood...

Pretty sure there is at least one more already there. The region is sucking up the majority of the available CV's. We only have 11. Right now 3 are deployed, 4 counting the Washington, which is home-ported in Japan, 1, the Reagan is "surge ready". The Enterprise is "post-deployed", and 5 are in various "down" states for maintenance. One of those, "Ike", might be good to go on fairly short notice. Might.

Where are the Carriers

In FY13, (which starts in October) the Enterprise will be retired and it will be two years before the Ford is commissioned, but she won't be ready for a few years after that, so we'll be down to 10 for a number of years.

Enterprise is the second oldest ship in the fleet, only the USS Constitution is older, much much older.

It's also possible that the Lincoln won't be refueled in FY14 as planned. (presumably to account for some of that Trillion dollar cumulative cut to defense spending.) We could end up with only 9 carriers for several years.

51 posted on 01/03/2012 8:42:57 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Voter#537
He will apologize before he sends any MOABS. . .

He'll probably apologize, but I doubt he'll use MOABS. But we have few MOABS to send, they were never put into regular production. We have around 15. Course that's 15 targets that we could, but won't, blow all to hell and back. I wonder if they could put on in that well near OOM, to see what the 12 Imam thinks of that. although perhaps a MOP(Massive Ordnance Penetrator) would be a better choice for that target.


52 posted on 01/03/2012 9:18:25 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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