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2012 Iowa Caucus Live Thread
Iowa GOP ^ | 1.3.12 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:24 AM PST by Free Vulcan

Live thread to cover today's GOP caucus. News, predictions, opinions, totals, and the like.

Will be heading out about 4 pm or so to get our site ready and do a final review with the precinct chairs. I expect it to be bigger than 2008 with very heavy turnout and we are preparing for that.

We are also ready for disruptions. They simply won't be tolerated. The state party sent us a memo saying if there's any trouble call the cops immediately. Anyone trying to cause problems is going to get a rude awakening.

My predictions of the outcome are a narrow field with about a 10 point spread for the top five with Bachmann far behind in single digits:

Santorum - 24 Romney - 22 Paul - 20 Perry - 17 Gingrich - 14 Bachmann - 4 The Rest - 1

Think things are still in flux and many won't decide till right to the wire, so I'm not terribly confident of any predictions.


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To: AFveteran

“Bible thumpers?” Buddy, you’re on the wrong site to be going after Christians.


1,151 posted on 01/03/2012 8:25:16 PM PST by Cato in PA (Hope and pray for the Santorum surge!)
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To: antceecee

I don’t think you understood my post based on your response.


1,152 posted on 01/03/2012 8:25:27 PM PST by teg_76
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To: altura

The weird thing is, Romney, Paul, Santorum and Gingrich are simply cults of personality. None of them actually run anything and excepting Paul have been out of office too long.

All armchair quarterbacks except for Perry.


1,153 posted on 01/03/2012 8:25:33 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

I know people on here complain that Santorum couldn’t beat Obama, but I disagree. What Americans want is a Conservative and an American. Santorum fits both.

I think, despite all of the gnashing of teeth about Romney, that we saw a victory for Conservatism. Think about it...the Conservative vote FAR outflanked the moderate/Democrat vote. If you take out 30% of Romney’s vote and 48% of Ron Pauls, that means that they performed POORLY among the Republican base. If we had one or 2 solid Conservatives running, not 4, we would be winning big.


1,154 posted on 01/03/2012 8:25:33 PM PST by chilepup
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To: fatima

OMG! THAT CORPORAL IS BACK SPEAKING AT A POLITICAL RALLY IN UNIFORM.

I guess that means the Army endorses Ron Paul now? I hope that kid gets walled-to-walled tomorrow.


1,155 posted on 01/03/2012 8:25:48 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: AFveteran

Bookmark.


1,156 posted on 01/03/2012 8:25:54 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Prokopton

Nice try. But Perry will endorse Newt. Stay tuned......


1,157 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:03 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: altura; All

“I don’t think Santorum is bad enough to lose to Obama but it would be close.”

Trust me, Santorum’s time is coming, this week.

The Mainstream Media ABSOLUTELY HATES THIS GUY, because of his anti-gay stances.

MARK MY WORDS, the venomous explosion of hatred you are going to see directed at him now, will make the orgy of media Palin hate PALE in comparison.


1,158 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:13 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Shortstop7

**I do NOT understand how anyone can support Ron Paul.**

But does he have Soros money behind him?


1,159 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sockmonkey
I am also, but I have one zinger. I have full blooded American Indians three or four generations back, on both sides of my family. Just waiting for La Raza to try to tell me that the country belongs to them.
1,160 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:26 PM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: All
Another good thing from tonight.

Ron Paul: “I doubt if I’ll come in third or fourth.”

1,161 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:39 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Rodm

Here’s a better idea...maybe you should take the plank out of your own eye, then wake up.


1,162 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:45 PM PST by AFveteran (Enraging liberals is simply one of the more enjoyable side effects of my wisdom. -Rush)
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To: teg_76

That’s just WRONG


1,163 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:45 PM PST by make no mistake
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To: CainConservative
Romney is a guaranteed Loss for the GOP

Romney is the Republican Dukakis.

1,164 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:50 PM PST by MissMagnolia (ObamaCare side effects: headache,delayed treatment, 0 choice,sky-rocketing taxes & premature death)
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To: AFveteran

Bible Thumpers?? Are you on the right site to be a Christian hater?

Pray for America


1,165 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:02 PM PST by bray (Romney is the Establishment)
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To: AFveteran

That he did. I won’t make excuses for that. Who do you make excuses for?


1,166 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Windflier
Yes, it was your recommendation (given, but not forwarded to the powers that be) which prompted my post.

Thanks for pointing it out!

1,167 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mozilla

Good point. I was a bit put off by some of Santorums debate performances, but take what I didn’t like and turn it on Romney and Obama, and he would be formidable.

I think my reaction may have been because I liked Cain a lot, and Santorum may just have been a little aggressive because he wasn’t being given much attention.


1,168 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:11 PM PST by bigbob
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To: parksstp
Rep. Ron Paul has Corporal Jesse Thorsen in uniform speaking at the Paul Iowa campaign headquarters endorsing Paul for president. (He's the soldier who spoke earlier on CNN, also in uniform supporting Paul and speaking out on military policy.)

A clear violation of the UCMJ.

Paul should also be investigated by the House for this.

1,169 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:17 PM PST by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: BenKenobi

Are you crazy?

Rick Perry is not out. He’s just getting started.

Bachmann may be out. Huntsman was never really in.

Iowa is not God. It’s a small state that went temporarily insane.

I’m not saying Santorum isn’t a decent guy but I never had much use for him because he just seems like someone Obama could kick sand on at the beach.

And Obama is the world’s biggest sissy.


1,170 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:17 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: pollywog

Who is ahead?


1,171 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: tennmountainman

It depends on what u call money!
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9 million dollars going into NH and SC— That’s what I call money.

So, is his money drying up as you indicated? That was your point. Or, are you now conceding your were wrong on the facts, and were merely being vitriolic?


1,172 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:37 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: fatima

“OBAMA would love to blow Santorum’s nose for him”No your just reliably. “ <<

No your just reliably? bly, bley, re, relia. LOL. Don’t get so flustered.


1,173 posted on 01/03/2012 8:27:42 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: jwalsh07

So well put. Lol.


1,174 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:24 PM PST by CSI007
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To: JosephMama

Santorum is NOT pathetic. He is a Christian who is willing to stand dup and speak his mind.

God bless him and his family of eight.


1,175 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cato in PA

Santorum down 13 - 92 percent in.

Still anybody’s show.


1,176 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:49 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: AFveteran
These bible thumpers who think abortion and gay marriage are the most important things right now need to get real.

Welcome to FR, douchebag.

1,177 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:49 PM PST by montag813
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To: AFveteran
If Santorum is the nominee, Obama doesn’t even need to campaign. These bible thumpers who think abortion and gay marriage are the most important things right now need to get real.

Moderates who think bible bashing, baby-killing and sodomony are winning issues need to get real.

1,178 posted on 01/03/2012 8:29:02 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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To: shoedog
Romney’s to lose, unfortunately, and I think tonight’s results are a win.

A total of 28 delegates were at stake tonight.

With 25% of the vote, Mitt got seven of them.

It takes 1,150 to make a majority at the convention.

This thing is far from settled.

1,179 posted on 01/03/2012 8:29:06 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: JosephMama

Bookmark.


1,180 posted on 01/03/2012 8:29:06 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: txhurl

Give it up! He spent by far the most money in IA and only got about 10%. He’ll do no better in SC and at this point is only dividing up the non-Romney vote.


1,181 posted on 01/03/2012 8:29:26 PM PST by teg_76
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To: Rodm

thanks for posting that to AFveteran. now i don’t have to


1,182 posted on 01/03/2012 8:29:41 PM PST by wwcj
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To: Salvation
But does he have Soros money behind him?

Good point.. Newt isn't looking too happy. I don't know why in the world Fox News is carrying on about 13 votes like this caucus is the end all...be all. Sheesh.

1,183 posted on 01/03/2012 8:29:41 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: altura

Newt’s points went up after each debate, thats where he did his best...they need to have more debates...


1,184 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:11 PM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: txhurl

Soo true that all are arm-chair quarterbacks except for Perry. He is the only candidate with impressive executive experience, job creation ability and down home values. Watch him take South Carolina. That’s his territory.

Iowa is not representative of the whole nation.


1,185 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:22 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: BenKenobi

I’m running out of nails to bite.


1,186 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:24 PM PST by Cato in PA (Hope and pray for the Santorum surge!)
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To: Signalman
" Santorum will insure an Obama victory. A social conservative is not what we need right now. "

Then vote for Romney or Obama... this is a Conservative Website All things God and Country.... go ask Jim Robinson...
1,187 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:32 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: tcrlaf

They also hate him for his unwavering pro-life beliefs. This is an example of why they fear and loathe him:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-1998-09-17/pdf/CREC-1998-09-17-pt1-PgS10545-2.pdf#page=2

A young pregnant woman was listening to these remarks on CSPAN late one night in 1998 and decided against an abortion. Google “Santorum CSPAN miracle”.


1,188 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:38 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“Well ... I’m gonna go drown my sorrows in a glass or ten of Hershey’s chocolate milk.” <<<

LOL! Love it. And chocolate!


1,189 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:42 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: parksstp

Missed it.Watching Fox news just to piss everyone off:)


1,190 posted on 01/03/2012 8:30:42 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: make no mistake

You die hard Perry supports are guaranteeing a Romney victory. You lost! You lost! You spent the most money and you lost! Drop out!


1,191 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:07 PM PST by teg_76
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To: BenKenobi

“Santorum/Newt. Delegate wise, Rick’s in the driver seat.”

No doubt, TONIGHT my friend.

But what a team Newt & Rick will be in NH, SC, and FL ganging up on Wilard the Lib : )


1,192 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:07 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: CainConservative

The real decision for conservatives, like it has been for me is between the candidates other than RINO Romney and nutcase Paul so as the lower vote total conservatives drop out, most supporters should consolidate to Santorum and Gingrich. The totals for the RINO and the nutcase will not change much.


1,193 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:18 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: teg_76

Candidates just don’t wake up one day and decide they’ll stop running for President, they drop out when the money runs out. As long as Perry’s got the money, he’ll be in the race.


1,194 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:23 PM PST by bigbob
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To: BenKenobi

“Santorum/Newt. Delegate wise, Rick’s in the driver seat.”

No doubt, TONIGHT my friend.

But what a team Newt & Rick will be in NH, SC, and FL ganging up on Wilard the Lib : )


1,195 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:28 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: AFveteran

Abortion isn’t an important thing? There are 3,500 babies killed EVERY DAY in this country. What could be more important?


1,196 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:31 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Salvation

Romney by 13 votes.

Very hard to see how this turns out. Still precints in East Iowa to report. Some favorable counties left for Santorum, but most of the small counties are in except for Monona and Madison.


1,197 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:31 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: AFveteran
" If Santorum is the nominee, Obama doesn’t even need to campaign.

These bible thumpers who think abortion and gay marriage are the most important things right now need to get real."

Then vote for Romney or Obama... this is a Conservative Website All things God and Country.... go ask Jim Robinson...
1,198 posted on 01/03/2012 8:31:49 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: montag813

He’s no longer with us. ZOT


1,199 posted on 01/03/2012 8:32:01 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: AFveteran; grey_whiskers; Windflier; 50mm; darkwing104; Old Sarge; TheOldLady; Jim Robinson
"You Bible Thumpers".

Woot! Another IBTZ for me!

I want my cookie for defending Christ, Our Country, Our Constitution, and our Conservatism! (or a pat on the head from Jim Rob would suffice) ;)

1,200 posted on 01/03/2012 8:32:20 PM PST by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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