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To: emax
If obama did not need/want the law, why did he push it? There is some reason that he feels that he needs/wants it. Other than putting me in preventative detention, I do not see how it benefits me. I know that obama has no love or use for individuals such as myself.

You may believe that every word that comes from obama's mouth is gospel. I don't.

40 posted on 01/03/2012 12:29:50 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

First off, the NDAA law has been passed every year for 48 years and so passing the NDAA law in the first place was clearly not new. And, again, those provisions were not supported and pushed only by Obama-they were supported by the majority of liberal and conservative elements of Congress. I know that Obama requested that a provision specifically exempting American citizens from detention be removed, but 1. Congress also voted against that sort fo Ammendment and again, Obama was not the only one who wanted it removed 2. There are legal complications that could have prevented such a clause from showing up on the bill-what if one Section was stated to not apply to US citizens, and by default all other sections were implied as pertaining to US citizens.

I am not a fan of all parts of this bill, but Obama is not the only one who wanted it. I dont beleive every word that comes out of Obama;s mouth as gospel-that’s why I started by posting a statement of support from a Conservaitve Senator and not Obama. And do I trust him to abide by his singing statement ? Not necessarily-but it shows that even he knows that the people and US military will hold him accountable if he does what posters here often say he will do. And of course, that is another subject for discusion entirely-the assumption that the US military would be just fine with detaining Americans at random and that Obama can now brainwash/control them to do whatever he wishes. Obama’s statement is not something he can quote him on-I know this-but it might suggest that he also knows the military cant be controlled by him against their will to do whatever he wants.


42 posted on 01/03/2012 12:40:17 PM PST by emax
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To: sport

That kind of rhetoric is is a form of smear tactic, entirely inappropriate, and tends to divide conservatives entirely unnecessarily.

Before you try to puut all of this argument into partisan rants, try to consider the conswquences of what you havee to say upon our prisoners of war and their fate at the hands of America’s enemies.


44 posted on 01/03/2012 12:48:15 PM PST by WhiskeyX (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) about the language of the legislation is coming from)
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To: sport

And also note, he would not be able to veto sections 1031 and 1032-which Congress passed and sent to him-without killing the entire NDAA bill. And that would have shut millions of people, including our troops, out of work for at laast several months and cause other kinds of chaos too.


45 posted on 01/03/2012 12:52:03 PM PST by emax
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