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Coronado, California, Shooting Kills 4, Including 2 Navy Pilots, Sister
abcnews.go.com ^ | 1/3/12 | COLLEEN CURRY

Posted on 01/03/2012 11:49:38 AM PST by ColdOne

A shooting in Coronado, Calif., that left four people dead, including two Navy pilots and one of their sisters, is being investigated as an apparent murder-suicide.

The New Year's Day shooting in a condo there claimed the lives of siblings David and Karen Reis, 25 and 24, respectively, as well as David's roommate, John Reeves, 25, and a fourth unknown man.

David Reis and Reeves were both pilots in the Navy, and shared the condo home in Coronado, sources told ABC affiliate KGTV. The other dead man is a 31-year-old civilian who lives in Chula Vista, according to the county Medical Examiner's Office.

The siblings and Reeves went out together in downtown San Diego to celebrate New Year's Eve Saturday night, and returned to the condo with the fourth man, whose identity has not been released, the sources said.

A retired Navy pilot who lives next door to the condo told KGTV that he heard seven shots early Sunday morning. "There were two shots, about a five-second pause, and then five more," Don Hubbard said.

Hubbard said he spoke with police after the shooting, who said they believed the crime was a murder-suicide and that they had found the murder weapon.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: coronado; murder; navair; navy; suicide; usn; usnavy; weapon
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To: Tucker39

Apparently you and I are the only ones who will admit reality.


21 posted on 01/03/2012 1:05:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: newbolt

Training squadron?


22 posted on 01/03/2012 1:06:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Seaplaner

Agreed.


23 posted on 01/03/2012 1:16:52 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: starlifter; tx_eggman
Eggman, thanks for the correction.

I should have said a leaking, oozing, fetid a$$hole. I'll try to do better next time.

24 posted on 01/03/2012 1:28:48 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Am I so for off base in the realm of possibilities?

It sounds more like you're tastelessly pushing an agenda before the blood has even dried.

25 posted on 01/03/2012 1:31:50 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I left you off my previous post. Apologies.
26 posted on 01/03/2012 1:32:03 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Drew68

I have no agenda. What happened there was a tragedy.


27 posted on 01/03/2012 1:37:50 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have no agenda. What happened there was a tragedy.

Yes, it was. But you seem to be hoping there's some gayness involved, aren't you? It was the first "conclusion" you came to.

28 posted on 01/03/2012 1:43:04 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So, we are left with two possibilities; one of the men was dating the sister and then killed everyone or one of the men was dating one of the other men and then killed everyone.

Am I so for off base in the realm of possibilities?

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I will say yes. You are off base, not for speculating as to the reasons, but being so binary in your thinking that you believe there were only 2 possibilities.


29 posted on 01/03/2012 1:47:38 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

Am I not allowed to speculate?


30 posted on 01/03/2012 2:06:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Drew68

I really don’t care. You seem awfully quick to try to deny homosexuality was involved.


31 posted on 01/03/2012 2:10:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Am I not allowed to speculate?

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You should re-read the post to which you replied. I answered that question. In the affirmative.


32 posted on 01/03/2012 2:17:35 PM PST by dmz
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To: ColdOne; Blood of Tyrants
Seems odd, this happened new years day, and they are not looking for any other suspects, yet no motive? Murder suicide seems to be what occurred but why?

I'm sure the investigators already know exactly what occurred and why, but are just not saying at this point, for whatever reasons. It seems obvious, based on this report, one of the 4 inside the condo was the shooter. Possibly more than one shooter, but I'd bet that's unlikely.

Debt, money, girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife love triangle jealousy thing?

Which one was the shooter, and what was the motive?

Would they pickup a complete stranger in a Chula Vista bar and take him home? Possible, but I doubt it.

As that would beg the question, why would a complete stranger kill them all, and then himself? Again, not likely.

My hunch is they or at 1 one of the 3 knew exactly who the unnamed stranger was.

33 posted on 01/03/2012 2:58:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Maybe details will come out in a few days. But if there is a homosexual aspect, you will have to dig deep to find the truth.


34 posted on 01/03/2012 3:56:57 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep.

My bet is they already know the motive, but are clearly holding back at this point.


35 posted on 01/03/2012 4:36:41 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This doesn’t say anything close to conclusive, but it is interesting and thought provoking.

Friend Of Coronado Shooting Victim Searches For Answers
Sources: Jealousy May Have Played Part In Fatal New Year’s Day Shooting

http://www.10news.com/news/30128712/detail.html


36 posted on 01/03/2012 9:45:32 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

“It was no surprise they rung in the New Year together. 10News learned they went out downtown with David’s roommate — friend and fellow Navy pilot Bob Reeves, who was 25 years old. The three met a Chula Vista man, who has yet to be identified, and brought him back to the condo.”

That doesn’t sound too good.


37 posted on 01/04/2012 2:28:18 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad
Latest details: John Reeves (pilot) had a self-inflicted gunshot to the head. The others David Reis (pilot), Karen Reis (sister) and guest Matthew Saturley were apparently shot by Reeves. See link.
38 posted on 01/04/2012 12:21:24 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

So much for psych evals.


39 posted on 01/04/2012 12:45:32 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad
At least he didn't go nuts in a fully armed F/A 18. It could have been worse.
40 posted on 01/04/2012 2:11:09 PM PST by Myrddin
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