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To: Don W
"The very restrictions you applaud have had NO effect on the actual production of the poisons you rightfully abhor, but they HAVE made your getting the medications YOU require/desire subject to government approval, under color of law, (the pharmacist has to approve your purchase). Isn’t it wonderful, living under the ever watchful eye of our beloved BIG BROTHER? Surely you cannot be ignorant of the fascism of which you seem to approve?"

I was waiting for your response DonW and I feel like a hypocrite considering my response to this issue.

I don't by any means think that Big Bro overseeing our purchases of anything is the answer. I'm only conceding that the restrictions currently in place have had a direct, timely effect in the reduction of meth labs in my area.

Now, I have no idea if the supply of poison from Mexico or the restrictions on the cold pills resulted in the reduction of labs in Minnesota. Something resulted in moving the meth lab jobs out of here and I guess I'm glad for it.

I don't like Big Bro subjecting me to any approval of anything, I just don't like junkies rights to produce poison to overtake my property rights,

If you have ever had land located in the vicinity of a meth lab you could understand the loss of value in your investment that goes along with it.

Let the neighbors grow pot as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't cost me anything and as long as they don't bother my family ... I know nothing about it.

Meth is totally different

34 posted on 01/04/2012 11:27:55 PM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

I’m glad that meth is totally different. I guess it’s OK to ban anything that might be used to make meth or anything else that you don’t like just so long as nobody touches your guns. Very pro-freedom that.


37 posted on 01/04/2012 11:33:36 PM PST by Mycroft Holmes (Returned for regrooving...)
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To: voteNRA

I must respectfully disagree. The legal restrictions you seem to approve of have merely caused the producers of the poison to move laterally. In order to eliminate the producers of the filth, you must remove their CUSTOMER BASE.

Education is the answer to this plague. To try and “legislate away” the poison is to ENCOURAGE those who would pollute us with this utter plague. Prohibition CANNOT work, yet here we are again!

Destroying the producers by ostracizing and shaming the users is the only way to deal with this.

SHAME may be out of vogue, but it is still useful among those of us who still value family. Those who resist the reality of their choices WILL die of their own hand, with we who TRIED valiantly to show them the error of their ways wholly absolved of the responsibility of their poor choices.

It may sound harsh, but reality is not exactly the most gentle of mind-states.

You can only try to help someone for so long. After a while, you realize that they are bound and determined to destroy themselves, and all you can do is watch.

I recently had a very close friend self-immolate with booze. It was far slower than what meth does, so don’t lecture me. I also happen to work at a large hospital. I have seen things that you would never sleep again had you been there. Ask anyone you know that works in an ER about dopers. Heck, ask anyone in the HOUSEKEEPING department of any hospital about what they have to deal with.

Much as I’d like to see “thoughtfulness and love” cure these people, the only thing that MIGHT work is good, old-fashioned tough love. Anything less insults them, and they know it. They care about NOTHING but their drug.

It’s the “Love all” ideal that has created this monster, and only the REALITY A**H**E stands a remote chance of slowing it down. Stopping it is yet another dragon.


48 posted on 01/05/2012 12:28:27 AM PST by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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