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Pictured: The teenager shot dead after taking pellet gun to school... posing with 'lethal weapon'
Daily Mail ^ | 01/05/12 | Staff

Posted on 01/05/2012 4:44:11 AM PST by BunnySlippers

This is the teenager shot dead by police for brandishing a pellet gun in the hallway of his school - posing with a friend holding the 'weapon'.

Jaime Gonzalez, 15, was gunned down because he would not lower the gun which officers believed was a loaded pistol.

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He said he heard police run down the hallway and yell 'put the gun down,' before several shots were fired.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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To: BunnySlippers

Also so that if there is anyone in the back seat they cannot get the drop on you.


41 posted on 01/05/2012 5:42:13 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: dblshot

“Toy guns now have the orange tips on them to give police a visual cue as to the mature of the gun. Trained to look for the orange tip, an officer would, having not seen such, move on the the determination that it was a real gun.”

I think that’s a bad idea...orange tips. How long before someone paints an orange tip on a REAL 9MM and the cops hesitate...to their own demise??? If you point anything other than your finger at a cop..IMO that cop can shoot your ass. Period.


42 posted on 01/05/2012 5:42:51 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: snoringbear

Depends on where you work. Years ago we were told that only 10% of us would fire our weapons in defense of ourselves or another. That seemed to be a little high, but many times the weapons came out in response to threats.


43 posted on 01/05/2012 5:43:23 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: BunnySlippers

Along the border the drug cartels are recruiting the young 13 and up kids to do their bidding for selling drugs and in many cases just up the river, are hit men for the gangs. There is no room for second guessing when someone is waving a weapon or pointing it at individuals, especially along the border where drug cartels and killing is becoming commonplace. This is one less Democrat that will be voting.


44 posted on 01/05/2012 5:43:45 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Londo Molari

I would shoot someone who pointed that at me. Especially if I was LE and I had ordered him to put it down.

This may be a “suicide by cop” situation. It happens. Easiest way to die is brandish a gun at LE and refuse to put it down when ordered.


45 posted on 01/05/2012 5:45:49 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Appears this was suicide by cop. Check out what someone claims this wannabe thug posted on their facebook:

“This was suicide by cop read his posts on his fb months back this kid had issues he made his decision. I feel sorry for his family friends. Just don’t blame the officers for his choice. Of all his friends in FB not one noticed his issues July 7 2011 FB POST “ vali verga medejaron entonse are k me maten eso es verdad” translation I’m screwed they left me I’m going to make them kill me that’s right. Kids if you see any post like that something is wrong. Someone needed to talk to him sadly no one did.”

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/articles/police-135447-gonzalez-gun.html


46 posted on 01/05/2012 5:46:32 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: BunnySlippers

I have no problem with what this cop did. A pellet gun CAN be a lethal weapon, so the headline is insulting.

This kid will be martyred by the left. But, as someone pointed out, play stupid games win stupid prizes. He was 15 & should’ve known better.


47 posted on 01/05/2012 5:49:55 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: dblshot
Toy guns now have the orange tips on them to give police a visual cue as to the mature of the gun. Trained to look for the orange tip, an officer would, having not seen such, move on the the determination that it was a real gun.

The officers still have to be careful. As with all these well-meaning "safety" approaches, the thugs find a way to negate them rather than be deterred. Now they are using black felt-tip markers to bypass that warning sign.

48 posted on 01/05/2012 5:50:41 AM PST by Oatka (ex-navy/army/marine)
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To: nuconvert

Sounds more like suicide by cop. Get them to respond, present an apparent threat.


49 posted on 01/05/2012 5:50:52 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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To: BunnySlippers
Traditional American male teenagers pose with a girlfriend in formal gown holding flowers - not a gun! (Even when raised with guns.)

What should this and a non-PC media tell us about the family and or community this teenager was living in?

What would the PC media be saying if he was from a Tea Party family (not that it would ever happen) and they found such photos?

50 posted on 01/05/2012 5:57:05 AM PST by drpix
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To: PapaBear3625

“He posed as a wannabe gang banger. He wanted people to think he was an armed bad guy. He succeeded.”

I came out of my morning shell just to respond to your post.. post of the day winner. Speaks volumes.


51 posted on 01/05/2012 6:05:30 AM PST by Kratos
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To: sevinufnine
How long before someone paints an orange tip
Not to give any felonious freepers any ideas, all you'd have to do is stick a bright orange foam earplug into the barrel. I doubt it would effect muzzle pressure at all at the bullet goes through it.
52 posted on 01/05/2012 6:06:50 AM PST by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: DainBramage

Now that’s funny right there.


53 posted on 01/05/2012 6:10:15 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“This kid did something very stupid with fatal results.”

Darwin Award winner.

Sad


54 posted on 01/05/2012 6:10:55 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Londo Molari

Yeah - it does look real and it is tragic. A bad case of teen hubris and a tough call by police. Is it an airsoft gun? They usually have the orange ring at the end of the barrel.


55 posted on 01/05/2012 6:11:15 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: G Larry

“15 yr old 8th grader????”

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Would seem to support the idea that the kid was an idiot.


56 posted on 01/05/2012 6:13:56 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“many times the weapons came out in response to threats.”

Thanks, I should have made the distinction, should have stated “fire” instead of “draw”. Obviously, weapons are drawn more often than fired. Still working on my morning coffee. My point, while perhaps not made clearly, was that the uniformed police officers who shot the kid should not be faulted for doing so as had it been a real hand gun they perhaps had only a second or two to get off the first shot(s). Anyway, glad that no one other than the dumb kid will killed or injured.


57 posted on 01/05/2012 6:14:44 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: ZX12R

There was a thread around Christmas time of children holding semi-automatic weapons having their pictures taken with Santa. The children in that news story were all white children. I think the “gun thing” crosses ethnic boundaries.


58 posted on 01/05/2012 6:15:18 AM PST by elvis-lives
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To: G Larry

“15 yr old 8th grader????”

IIRC kids are about 12 in 6th grade, so normally would be 14 in 8th grade. If your birthday is in January you can be 15 in 8th without having been left back.


59 posted on 01/05/2012 6:17:51 AM PST by Hacklehead (Winchester 52, because everyone needs a 22 rimfire that weighs 12 pounds.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Read and study on what exactly is a “pellet gun”...It is REAL...not a toy...A .17cal pellet gun can kill if a person is hit in the “right” place...

Pellet guns have been used for years by some kids in the south for squirrel hunting...


60 posted on 01/05/2012 6:24:54 AM PST by Boonie
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