Posted on 01/05/2012 4:44:11 AM PST by BunnySlippers
This is the teenager shot dead by police for brandishing a pellet gun in the hallway of his school - posing with a friend holding the 'weapon'.
Jaime Gonzalez, 15, was gunned down because he would not lower the gun which officers believed was a loaded pistol.
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He said he heard police run down the hallway and yell 'put the gun down,' before several shots were fired.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
I had to truncate that title to make it fit. It should read:
Pictured: The teenager shot dead after taking pellet gun to school... posing with friend holding the ‘lethal weapon’
Looks like the real thing. How tragic for everyone involved.
Looks like he had some kind of back problem. Maybe that drove him to it.
He won’t do that anymore.
Both mother and grandmother said “he wasn’t perfect” but was a “very giving boy”.
The not perfect part gives pause.
Good riddance.
Less perfect now with that hole in him.
“Shortly before the confrontation, Jaime had walked into a classroom and punched a boy in the nose for no apparent reason, Rodriguez said.”
Sounds like he brought the gun to scool to intimidate others.
He was very giving..He gave his classmate a punch in the face before he started with the gangsta with a pellet gun routine.
Glad to see that this possible drug dealer/laraza soldier/rapist/murderer was taken out EARLY in his career.
flame away.
He looks like a wannabe gang member. I suspect an investigation will show this to be more of the same old Hispanic gang related violence.
If not an actual gang member, then at least a kid that wanted to grow up to be one.
SO the kid was 15 and in the 8th grade? That right there tells me the kid was an idiot.
Play stupid games ya win stupid prizes.
Given the photo of the cop at the source webpage, I doubt that lack of bilingual officers was an issue here.
I’m thinking maybe it isn’t a good idea to point ANY sort of weapon at a cop?
Uh-huh. What did the father say?
Oh. Right. Who knows where (or who) the father is.
And the stupid girl in the picture is most likely going to make a few fatherless children herself.
My mom taught me to put my hands on the steering wheel if the police pull you over. They want to know where your hands are.
I was pulled over by the LAPD for not having a front license plate last year. I notice the policeman insisted on stand way behind the driver’s side window. It was uncomfortable to talk to him.
I’ll bet they stand there so it is difficult to turn around and attack or surprise them.
yup....and when you have a regular 8th grader having to go to school with these “older” kids - it’s a recipe for disaster.
As if the middle school years aren’t hard enough as it is.
There is a father who made a statement too. Sounds like both parents knew he had problems ... but want to know why lethal force was used.
Yet both acknowledge that this was the logical outcome.
The cop must be going through hell knowing he had to kill a 15 year old kid, but to find out the kid only had a pellet pistol must really add to the sorrow.
Prayers to this poor cop.
Daisy BB gun on left, Beretta Cougar 9mm on right. Almost identical...
How long will it be before the plastic water pistol is banned—es verdad a boy was penalized for eating a piece of pizza in the shape of a pistol and then waving it about. IT is not the guns that are what ails our society —it is the fact we have turned form God— we have chosen as our leaders men who who donot rule in fear of God—we have heaped to ourselves teachers-having itching ears to hear their pleasant talk of a better world if only we follow -the weak Prince- the wicked leader fears an armed populace. A people turned from God are ruled by the strong arm of man -by laws-and by fear.
Awright, awright. You got me on that one. The odds were in my favor, though.
He posed as a wannabe gang banger. He wanted people to think he was an armed bad guy. He succeeded.
Picture tells the story. Probably just finished watching “American Me” or “Juice”. Thought he was a badass. Now he’s a badass with a leak.
So true.
A child that is introduced to guns, gun safety and marksmanship skills as part of the normal maturation process would never do something so stupid.
Every Boy Scout knows (or at least used to know):
Guns (neither pellet guns nor firearms) are not toys.
You don’t brandish a gun just to appear tough.
You don’t bring a pellet gun to a gun fight.
Once again, the lack of proper upbringing results in tragedy. It’s probably safe to assume this child had no consistent, responsible, law-abiding male role model in his life. It’s also a safe bet that this child never received structured and appropriate training in the responsible use of firearms.
Our society is broken and our future is assured (it’s not a pretty picture). This incident is just one tiny snippet of what is to come.
I am a former Chicago P D. That is exactly the way we were trained.
In both pictures, he has that thuggish smirk on his face. Yes, 15 and in 8th grade, combined with weapon, history, visible attitude... I feel sorry for the cop, because if that had been a real gun and he’d hurt or killed another student, you know what the outcry would have been. And even a pellet gun, if placed to someone’s temple, can cause serious injury or death.
“I am a former Chicago P D. That is exactly the way we were trained.”
yeah, agree, no argument here. Readers should keep in mind that the average uniformed police officer will spend his entire career without having to draw his weapon in a high threat situation. So, unless a situation is dealt with by those trained for high stress situations such as the SWAT dudes this is the outcome to be expected.
15 yr old 8th grader????
What bothers me it the grandmother mentioned the stepmom raised him and was “very strict” with him.
How many of us know kids with strict parents who are totally wild away from home/rebellious? I knew plenty of them growing up. Being to strict almost always has the opposite affect of what a parent intends.
I thought the grandmother reacted better than most people do in these situations. She accepted that the police were doing their jobs and that the boy had put himself in this situation. She admitted he wasn’t perfect. Her grandson just died, I wouldn’t expect her to trash him.
This kid did something very stupid with fatal results.
“SO the kid was 15 and in the 8th grade? That right there tells me the kid was an idiot.”
Yup, what I was going to post. My son @ 15 was in 10th grade! Not 8th. How many times did this boy fail? Mommy said he was a “good student’. Well, probably by now since he’d taking the class several times it seems!!!!
Guarantee he admired the cartels and if wasn't already employed by them, aspired to be.
Also so that if there is anyone in the back seat they cannot get the drop on you.
“Toy guns now have the orange tips on them to give police a visual cue as to the mature of the gun. Trained to look for the orange tip, an officer would, having not seen such, move on the the determination that it was a real gun.”
I think that’s a bad idea...orange tips. How long before someone paints an orange tip on a REAL 9MM and the cops hesitate...to their own demise??? If you point anything other than your finger at a cop..IMO that cop can shoot your ass. Period.
Depends on where you work. Years ago we were told that only 10% of us would fire our weapons in defense of ourselves or another. That seemed to be a little high, but many times the weapons came out in response to threats.
Along the border the drug cartels are recruiting the young 13 and up kids to do their bidding for selling drugs and in many cases just up the river, are hit men for the gangs. There is no room for second guessing when someone is waving a weapon or pointing it at individuals, especially along the border where drug cartels and killing is becoming commonplace. This is one less Democrat that will be voting.
I would shoot someone who pointed that at me. Especially if I was LE and I had ordered him to put it down.
This may be a “suicide by cop” situation. It happens. Easiest way to die is brandish a gun at LE and refuse to put it down when ordered.
Appears this was suicide by cop. Check out what someone claims this wannabe thug posted on their facebook:
“This was suicide by cop read his posts on his fb months back this kid had issues he made his decision. I feel sorry for his family friends. Just don’t blame the officers for his choice. Of all his friends in FB not one noticed his issues July 7 2011 FB POST “ vali verga medejaron entonse are k me maten eso es verdad” translation I’m screwed they left me I’m going to make them kill me that’s right. Kids if you see any post like that something is wrong. Someone needed to talk to him sadly no one did.”
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/articles/police-135447-gonzalez-gun.html
I have no problem with what this cop did. A pellet gun CAN be a lethal weapon, so the headline is insulting.
This kid will be martyred by the left. But, as someone pointed out, play stupid games win stupid prizes. He was 15 & should’ve known better.
The officers still have to be careful. As with all these well-meaning "safety" approaches, the thugs find a way to negate them rather than be deterred. Now they are using black felt-tip markers to bypass that warning sign.
Sounds more like suicide by cop. Get them to respond, present an apparent threat.
What should this and a non-PC media tell us about the family and or community this teenager was living in?
What would the PC media be saying if he was from a Tea Party family (not that it would ever happen) and they found such photos?
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