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The Great Conservative Sell-Out
Townhall.com ^ | January 4, 2012 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/05/2012 5:41:02 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: mountainfolk

Hah! Yeah, Cain has always done something or another that kept him away from home a lot.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t as warm around the old home fires as it used to be.

Mrs. Cain may have bought the bus with her savings.


41 posted on 01/05/2012 8:17:17 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I used to buy into this cliche of "if I vote between two evils, I will still end up with evil"

A childish principle, taken to extremes. There will never be a totally good candidate so voting for some "evil" is inevitable. The appropriate guide is to vote for the best candidate available.

42 posted on 01/05/2012 9:13:16 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: altura

Well, when the choice is between somone who would destroy us intentionally, or someone who would destroy us unintentionally, as McCain would have done, as Romney is most likely to do, then we need a third choice - hoard gold, weapons, and nonperishable necessities.


43 posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:09 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: hinckley buzzard

Totally agree, not only is the dealing in reality, it’s the moral way to deal with human beings.


44 posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:22 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cato in PA

Do you really believe Romney is the same or worse as Obama? The only other option is to stay home and not vote.* If conservatives do that then still guarantees an Obama win.

*I live in NJ so my vote doesn’t count anyway!


45 posted on 01/05/2012 9:42:42 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: Daveinyork

I, too, refuse to vote for Romney. He loves government, and flip flops back and forth on issues.

He has no real conviction but one: He is convinced he should be president. All other positions are subject to modification for political gain.


46 posted on 01/05/2012 11:08:23 AM PST by ladyrustic
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To: ladyrustic

I don’t know if you are listening to Rush, but he just said that he thinks the GOP establishment is convinced that they cannot beat Obama, and are supporting Romney because they think he’ll be the best campaigner for the downticket races.


47 posted on 01/05/2012 11:38:25 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; jimmyo57

There is no “more conservative” when you’re comparing socialists. Regardless of their individual shade of gray, they still stand against individual liberty. Isn’t that enough?

The disease of socialism is what’s killing America, not a deficiency of Republicans. George Dubya squandered his majorities. Crybaby Boehner can be tossed about like a tumbleweed by a gentle political breeze. Electing Willard Romney the open socialist would convince the GOP squishes to do even less, and they’d take the blame when everything inevitably collapsed.

Big-government Democrats and Republicans have been driving America toward a cliff for years. The difference now is that we’re about to run out of road.

If you pull the Republican lever without thinking, you’re letting the GOP establishment use you as their tool. They don’t deserve that. Only God deserves your unquestioning loyalty; with everyone else, trust, but keep your wits about you.

If Romney gets nominated, give your time and money to worthy candidates in the House and (especially) Senate who can fight whichever socialist wins.


48 posted on 01/05/2012 5:29:53 PM PST by Cato in PA (Hope and pray for the Santorum surge!)
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To: Cato in PA

I’m sure as hell not going to allow the Democrats to use me as a tool.


49 posted on 01/05/2012 5:31:58 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cato in PA
Only God deserves your unquestioning loyalty

I completely agree but what does this have to do with choosing a president?

50 posted on 01/05/2012 5:33:51 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Because if you pull the Republican lever every time no matter what, you're giving the GOP your unquestioning loyalty. They don't care if you like who you're voting for; all they care is that you do vote, and you're giving them exactly what they want.
51 posted on 01/05/2012 5:37:25 PM PST by Cato in PA (Hope and pray for the Santorum surge!)
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To: Kaslin
Why, then, do so many conservatives say that Romney represents true conservatism?

If you're Ann Coulter 90% of the time you're arguing that you are the true conservative. That's your go-to argument, so it's the one that you'll use even if it doesn't entirely apply in a particular case.

You could say something similar for George Will. That's the argument he started out with, and it's what he'll go with when he's in doubt. Being highly-skilled wordsmiths, they don't have much trouble convincing themselves that they're right.

2008 also has something to do with it. For a lot of pundits that time around, Romney was the conservative alternative to McCain. Having made that committment then, they aren't going to undo it now. Judging by appearances pundits who've already made up their minds aren't likely to change their minds about Romney -- or Gingrich.

Also, the lesson of the Bush years is that nobody's a purist. Nobody electable is going to be the kind of purist that the tea party wants. If you swallowed "compassionate conservatism" you might not strain at Romney. If you didn't, you might feel that you have license to make a similar choice this time.

52 posted on 01/05/2012 5:44:10 PM PST by x
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To: Cato in PA

So am I supposed to ask you who I can vote for? I see no connection between who I vote for and if I will be going to Heaven. However, I do believe that because I am a child of God and a believer in Jesus, I want to please HIM and I think Jesus would never want me to do anything to help Obama or a Dempcrat.


53 posted on 01/05/2012 5:57:05 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Kaslin

Ben Shapiro laying down some science.


54 posted on 01/05/2012 6:03:52 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I never said you had to ask me who to vote for, and I’m not saying that you’re going to hell if you vote a certain way. It was a poor choice of words; all I’m trying to say is that the GOP establishment least of all deserves the unconditional loyalty you’re giving them.

Everybody has to compromise sometimes. I learned that as soon as I was old enough to vote because I grew up in a blue area of a blue city located in a blue state. But compromise only goes so far before it becomes caving.

If your principles play absolutely no role in deciding whether to support a candidate, that’s a mistake. That is the exact same thought process that John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and the other squishes use in deciding whether to support legislation.

Support Romney if you want. Just remember that Bush squandered his majorities, and Romney is far more liberal than he ever was.


55 posted on 01/05/2012 7:42:20 PM PST by Cato in PA (Hope and pray for the Santorum surge!)
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