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Hours after being robbed at work, Cumberland Farms cashier fired for having too much money
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Posted on 01/05/2012 2:18:01 PM PST by matt04

Three nights before Christmas, Douglas Moore was at his job at the Cumberland Farms on West Street when a man stuck a gun in his face and told him to empty the cash register.

The next morning, Moore’s boss called him at home to ask him to come to the store for a talk.

“I thought she was going to see how I was doing,” he said.

Hours after being surprised by a gunman, Moore, 24, of Springfield, was surprised again – he was fired.

“I didn’t think I’d be fired,” he said. “Right before Christmas doesn’t seem right.”

Moore, who worked there for about 18 months putting in 40 hours a week for just less than $9 an hour, was let go because at the time of the robbery he had more than $75 in the register drawer.

The amount of money taken in the Dec. 22 robbery was never disclosed by police, but anything more than $75 is a violation of Cumberland Farms policy, he said.

Moore said management told him they could tell from the overhead surveillance tapes that the robber made off with more than $200.

He does not deny that there was more than $75 in the register, but said it was not much more. It might have been $100, or maybe as high as $150, but he disputes it was more than $200.

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Full title: Hours after being robbed at work, Cumberland Farms cashier Douglas Moore fired for having too much money in register
1 posted on 01/05/2012 2:18:09 PM PST by matt04
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To: matt04

So the employee knows that had a significant amount of money in the drawer over the $75 maximum. They then go and whine to the press, who reports it knowing full well that Cumberland Farms legally can not comment on personnel matters.

Of course the press is happy that they have made the public hate a big evil corporation.


2 posted on 01/05/2012 2:19:45 PM PST by matt04
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If you don't have to raise money for the poor, then you'd be out of a job.

Oh please, gentlemen, don't ask me to put you out of a job. Not on Christmas!

3 posted on 01/05/2012 2:25:08 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: matt04

Cumberland Farms is a horrible store. Not only do they abuse their employees, they do the same to customers. I refuse to enter a Cumby.

I’m glad the employee opened his mouth. It’s time that the truth about Cumby’s be exposed.


4 posted on 01/05/2012 2:26:36 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: matt04

Depends if his supervisor was around to swap out drawers and if he made request earlier and also it was the holiday season they could have been busier. But the press shouldn’t be whining about it in the first place.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 2:30:02 PM PST by GraceG
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To: matt04

The $75 limit is a robbery deterrent that limits the typical “score” to $40-50 and helps drive criminals elsewhere.

Keeping more than that in the drawer needlessly puts every cashier in that store at risk.

This guy knew the policy and understood what it was for, but he took a gamble that it would never happen to him. He lost.


6 posted on 01/05/2012 2:32:23 PM PST by bornred
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To: matt04

The title should say “Fired for NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES”


7 posted on 01/05/2012 2:33:16 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
What truth???

The actual truth apparently is the employee knew he had too much cash in the drawer...and he was violating policy.

Dispute that.

8 posted on 01/05/2012 2:35:11 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: matt04

In all fairness, if it was any reasonable state, there should be a public collection made to buy the clerk a gun, so he wouldn’t be so defenseless.

In Arizona, the press usually don’t report that an armed robber robbed a store. Most of the time it is “the deceased was *attempting* to rob a store.”

Which goes along well with other crime news, such as, “the deceased drew his gun on an officer”, “the deceased was trying to carjack a vehicle”, and “the deceased was attempting a home invasion.”


9 posted on 01/05/2012 2:36:02 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: matt04

I would think there would be some accounting paperwork done before you drop the bills in the safe - how much time does that take when the line is stretching out?

Also, wouldn’t the register have kept track of how much was in the till, so the manager would know the exact amount taken, not be estimating from the surveillance tapes?

Anyway, the company policy deters robbers by only letting them have small amounts, but it also deters cashiers from colluding to give the robbers a big score.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 2:40:29 PM PST by heartwood
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To: bornred
What rock did you just crawl out from under?
I am involved with a local bar/package store and I'm curious how if somebody purchased a 6pack with a hundred dollar bill you would be able to make change without showing where the real money was? This happens all the time if you worked for me with that mentality you would also be looking for another job!
There is no difference in a threat from a would be criminal no matter how much cash is in the drawer and if your busy would you have a cashier deal with extra cash in front of customers of when they are alone?
11 posted on 01/05/2012 2:43:40 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Firing an employee for having too much money in the till is just.

It means he wasn’t minimizing the risk to himself or his fellow employees. He was also creating an environment where he increased the risk of a follow-up robbery by the robber or one of his co-patriots, because their robbery was rewarded.

Now, imo, it also depends how much he had in the register. If it was only $25, than the boss should have given him a warning, but if it was over $200 above float, as the store claimed than it means the clerk was not paying attention to what was in the till at all.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 2:46:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: CowboyConservative

What rock did you crawl out from under?

Ever see the sign “No $100’s” in a small store.

I see plenty of them around here.


13 posted on 01/05/2012 2:49:25 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Jonty30
$9/hr?

He's better off looking for a better job.

14 posted on 01/05/2012 2:51:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: bornred
You are correct (along with a couple more reasons). My job/company has a similar policy for similar reasons. The policy is in place for a reason not just to add more pages to the employee handbook.
15 posted on 01/05/2012 2:51:51 PM PST by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Paladin2
In some parts of the country....$9 an hour for a cashier's job is decent money.

I know....people with degree's making just a bit more.

16 posted on 01/05/2012 2:53:42 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange

Sometimes a swift kick to the butt is good motivation. ;-)


17 posted on 01/05/2012 2:55:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: matt04
Hours after being robbed at work, Cumberland Farms cashier fired for having too much money in regsiter not following company policy.
18 posted on 01/05/2012 2:56:09 PM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: Paladin2

I agree. Cashier jobs like that are entry-level jobs. It’s what you do to pay the bills and start your life-long employment.

You basically start looking for work elsewhere the moment you get the job.


19 posted on 01/05/2012 2:56:46 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Paladin2

Sometimes people are stupid...: )


20 posted on 01/05/2012 2:57:06 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Jonty30
Why would they expect that a $9/hr employee would even be able to learn all of the company policies?

The gov't has more laws than any one individual can know well.

21 posted on 01/05/2012 3:03:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Osage Orange

The truth about how CF abuses their employees and customers.

LOL, that there is a $75 max for cash drawer explains why the cashiers are ALWAYS counting money, holding up the line. Anyway, I’d say the employee did not have a chance to count the money because maybe the place was busy. If you have ever been in a CF, or known someone who works there, you’d side with the employee.

Have you read about another CF that had a gas leak recently? Took half an hour for the manager to arrive to turn off the pump. Why was the key not on site?


22 posted on 01/05/2012 3:09:30 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Paladin2

I think it’s reasonable for a company to expect its employees to know about how to handle cash immediately.

I don’t Cummings particular policy, but how hard can it be to remember to drop every 50 bucks or so?

Aside from the money itself, it also reduces the risk of robbery, because if a robber only gets 100 bucks, it’s not quite the same incentive than if he scores 400 bucks.


23 posted on 01/05/2012 3:12:24 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

If you know that you have too much money, but don’t know how much, immediately drop $50 without counting.


24 posted on 01/05/2012 3:15:16 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Osage Orange

Here on the mountain top, CF pays $8/hr. At night there is only one person working the night shift.


25 posted on 01/05/2012 3:16:24 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: matt04

Most folks don’t understand that keeping too much money in the till is one of the leading causes of impulse robberies. Crooks do watch the drawer, often they will use a large bill to pay for something minimal in cost, just to gauge if it’s worth robbing you or not.

Robberies kill people. I might not have fired him, depending on his history, but I sure would have penalized him.


26 posted on 01/05/2012 3:19:40 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Maybe you have an axe to grind...I dunno.

I doubt the fired employee....had lot's of customer's in line...when he got robbed.

Sounds like...you have personal experience with the company. Do you, or have you worked there?

27 posted on 01/05/2012 3:20:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange

You’re right, when he was robbed he was probably alone. I doubt very much that he was sitting behind the counter reading a magazine when the robber walked in. CF does not allow chairs and they expect the employees to be doing something all the time, they always have to be moving. The employee may have been busy replenishing the coffee before he got a chance to count the money, mark it,label it and then deposit it into the floor.

Money is counted at the counter. In the past I had walked in many times at night while the cashier was counting her money. If I was a robber,LOL, all I’d have to say is “hand it over”. I’d hang around till she was finished because I didn’t want her to be held up.

Yes, I do know people who have worked for that company. They were hard workers. Smiles returned to their faces when they found another job.

CF is brutal to their workers. They do not care about their safety.


28 posted on 01/05/2012 3:47:46 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
It's pretty clear to me...you have a personal axe to grind here.

So be it.....

Good luck!!

29 posted on 01/05/2012 3:50:59 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: GraceG
Depends if his supervisor was around to swap out drawers and if he made request earlier and also it was the holiday season they could have been busier.

It depends on the store. While I've never been to one of these stores, every convenience store (and some small grocery stores) have individual "money drops" where the cashier simply puts cash in an envelope, writes up a receipt for the till, and drops it in. No management involvement at all.

Mark

30 posted on 01/05/2012 3:53:07 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: matt04

Good luck getting anyone to work at this store now, lol. Hopefully this kid will find a job paying way more than $9 bucks an hour.


31 posted on 01/05/2012 3:55:49 PM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: matt04
....they then go and whine to the press...

LOL. Yeah, the guy went $25 over the limit during a Christmas rush. Then, had a gun stuck in his face. Then, got fired.

That'll learn him.

32 posted on 01/05/2012 3:55:51 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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33 posted on 01/05/2012 3:57:47 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I’m glad the employee opened his mouth. It’s time that the truth about Cumby’s be exposed.

The one employee in the store who had more money in his register than allowed, (which was a violation of store policy), was robbed........Bad things just happen I guess.

34 posted on 01/05/2012 4:01:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: matt04

Cumby’s have a *night drop box*, usually right near the register; only the manager has a key/combination to this safe. All employees, as part of their training, know this. So sad, too bad.


35 posted on 01/05/2012 4:03:20 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: matt04
Moore said he was forced to put on hold pursuit of his bachelor’s degree in accounting that he is taking through the online program at Colorado Technical University while he looks for work.

Time to pull out the violins as this story gets sadder and sadder.......


36 posted on 01/05/2012 4:09:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
...time to pull out the violins as this story gets sadder and sadder.......

Haw haw. If the guy had been shot that would have been a real laff riot for you.

37 posted on 01/05/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

>>They do not care about their safety.<<

That’s why there is a *drop* policy; they also won’t allow you to chase the perp outside the store and try to stop them.

I’m pretty sure you cannot concealed carry, even if you work at night, and can legally do so, as a private citizen.


38 posted on 01/05/2012 4:14:27 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"The one employee in the store who had more money in his register than allowed, (which was a violation of store policy), was robbed........Bad things just happen I guess."

The sole employee. CF has only one employee at night who has to do the work of two.

Can you do that without messing up?

oh,and don't robbers usually attack places where there is just one employee? no doubt this robber would have been happy with just $75.

39 posted on 01/05/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: matt04

Hey Mr. matt, this guy needs to sue this F’d up company for total mental stress, for failing to provide adequate security and safety of their employees.

He needs to hire the very best attorney possible.


40 posted on 01/05/2012 4:19:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Osage Orange

What is important here is, do not go to work for the cumberland farms company.


41 posted on 01/05/2012 4:20:25 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: Daffynition

You too....This guy needs to sue this F’d up company for total mental stress, for failing to provide adequate security and safety of their employees.

He needs to hire the very best attorney possible.


42 posted on 01/05/2012 4:20:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Daffynition

Safety does not have to be a gun.
Two employees is safety. Safety in numbers.
Either that or do not keep the store open overnight.


43 posted on 01/05/2012 4:24:47 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: dragnet2
It's not the employee who needs training...it's the customer...they need to show their *Miss Manners* course completion certificate, three personal references and have the precisely correct change at all times. In some cases, their parole officer, therapist, court appointed attorney, social worker should be present.


44 posted on 01/05/2012 4:26:56 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Bad things just happen I guess.

They aint seen nothing...Sticking a gun in someones face, threatening to blow their brains out, can and does cause significant mental/stress issues.

Seems the company was only concerned with their profits than employee safety, since they did not provide any degree of safety for their employees, who are clearly subject to armed robbery and possibly murder.

45 posted on 01/05/2012 4:28:05 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Haw haw. If the guy had been shot that would have been a real laff riot for you.

Actually it wouldn't Brian but since that wasn't the case, I'm calling this guy an accomplice to a crime......

As P.T. Barnum once said "There's a sucker born every minute..."... Happy Birthday Byron!

You don't think that his claim that he had to discontinue his on-line education because he had to look for another job wasn't another red flag? Gosh, one would think that he's hiking the street 16 hours a day looking........

46 posted on 01/05/2012 4:28:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

>>Safety does not have to be a gun.<<

For me it is. Hands down. B/c I can’t carry a cop, or a Navy Seal.


47 posted on 01/05/2012 4:31:06 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: matt04

Sounds like this place is run by complete numbskulls


48 posted on 01/05/2012 4:31:24 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Hot Tabasco

you are a jerk


49 posted on 01/05/2012 4:32:27 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Hot Tabasco; Byron_the_Aussie
You don't think that his claim that he had to discontinue his on-line education because he had to look for another job wasn't bla bla bla...

That has zip to do with nothing and this f'd up company's attorneys know that too well.

Sticking a gun in someones face, threatening to blow their brains out, can and does cause significant mental/stress issues.

Seems the company was only concerned with their profits than employee safety, since they did not provide any degree of safety for their employees, who are clearly subject to armed robbery and possibly murder.

Sue them into next year!

50 posted on 01/05/2012 4:35:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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