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Hours after being robbed at work, Cumberland Farms cashier fired for having too much money
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Posted on 01/05/2012 2:18:01 PM PST by matt04

Three nights before Christmas, Douglas Moore was at his job at the Cumberland Farms on West Street when a man stuck a gun in his face and told him to empty the cash register.

The next morning, Moore’s boss called him at home to ask him to come to the store for a talk.

“I thought she was going to see how I was doing,” he said.

Hours after being surprised by a gunman, Moore, 24, of Springfield, was surprised again – he was fired.

“I didn’t think I’d be fired,” he said. “Right before Christmas doesn’t seem right.”

Moore, who worked there for about 18 months putting in 40 hours a week for just less than $9 an hour, was let go because at the time of the robbery he had more than $75 in the register drawer.

The amount of money taken in the Dec. 22 robbery was never disclosed by police, but anything more than $75 is a violation of Cumberland Farms policy, he said.

Moore said management told him they could tell from the overhead surveillance tapes that the robber made off with more than $200.

He does not deny that there was more than $75 in the register, but said it was not much more. It might have been $100, or maybe as high as $150, but he disputes it was more than $200.

(Excerpt) Read more at masslive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cumberlandfarms; ludlow
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To: Hot Tabasco
...you don't think that his claim...

No, because I don't automatically infer the worst possible motive from a person's actions under stress. Given your unwarranted snark it may be time to review that policy.

51 posted on 01/05/2012 4:43:57 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: org.whodat
Really?

Important how?

It's not my profession...but enlighten me.

52 posted on 01/05/2012 4:46:29 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
The sole employee. CF has only one employee at night who has to do the work of two. Can you do that without messing up?

Hard to say, never tried it. But having in excess of the money demanded by the store in the cash register and then being robbed, that leads me to believe he may be an accomplice.........

That's my opinion, go ahead and shoot me if you want but I'm sticking to it.......

There is a positive side to this, it now gives him full time to pursue his on-line degree in accounting rather than just the hours at home when he wasn't working..............

Oh wait, he had to discontinue the program so he could look for work.

Yea, that really makes sense too........

53 posted on 01/05/2012 4:48:10 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: Osage Orange

Over reaction, is over reaction, suspend the man for a couple of days. No one in their right mind should work for a company that is that harsh.


54 posted on 01/05/2012 4:54:09 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: org.whodat

No way I’d ever work again for these sleeze balls.

Sticking a gun in someones face, threatening to blow their brains out, can and does cause significant mental/stress issues.

Seems the company was only concerned with their profits than employee safety, since they did not provide any degree of safety for their employees, who are clearly subject to armed robbery and possibly murder.

Sue them into next year!


55 posted on 01/05/2012 5:02:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
"Sue them into next year!"

You're too kind.

Sue them out of business!

56 posted on 01/05/2012 5:13:43 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

You bet!


57 posted on 01/05/2012 5:14:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: org.whodat
Their policy was stated.

I work for an outfit...that is just as "harsh". But when you know the rules, policies...you follow them or you suffer the consequences. You have basic "rights"....but they employ you at their pleasure.

My company has a no smoking rule at work...In fact the whole facility has the same rule. If you are on their property and smoking in your vehicle and caught doing so...you are subject to being fired. Everyone knows this....But I've seen folks fired for it.

I don't agree with it. But they can dictate what they want..on their property and on their "time".

BTW, I work 3 days a week in a very large hospital.....

And...fwiw- I enjoy a premium cigar about once a fortnight...but not at work.

58 posted on 01/05/2012 5:16:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange
Good people that show up for work are a dime a dozen in the cumberland farms world. Loyalty is what keeps people honest, not harsh rules.
59 posted on 01/05/2012 5:20:16 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: Osage Orange
Don't matter a whit what their stinking policies regarding their profits or hiding their cash are.

The question is, why did they fail to provide their employees with adequate safety and security?

Would the CEO's of this corporation put their sons and daughters behind a counter where cash, safes and other valuables are located, with zero safety and or security from armed robbery?

Hell no they wouldn't.

They'd laugh in your face, and tell ya to get lost.

60 posted on 01/05/2012 5:23:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: org.whodat
Good people that show up for work are a dime a dozen in the cumberland farms world.

Ya know what? It's the same with 95 percent off all companies. Trust me.

These greedymart chains are all the same. They do not care if their help gets their brains splattered all over the big gulp cups...At that point, it's all about PR and paying off the dead clerks family, hoping they go away quietly, after they pay for a 3rd rate funeral.

You've got to be really desperate or stupid to work at the robbery level in todays America.

I could show you pics of clerks with half their heads gone...But I won't.

The fatcorps could simply care less.

61 posted on 01/05/2012 5:37:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
What else would you have Cumby's do? Have armed security personnel on the night shift? Be open only 9-5?


62 posted on 01/05/2012 5:37:57 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: org.whodat
Loyalty means nothing anymore....from the employer and employee standpoint. And it hasn't for at least 20-30 years in many, many companies.

I'd blame lawyers for much of the mess...that we are in these days.

Companies have combated that litigation fever with H.R. rules and regs. With retained legal chihuahuas...to do battle with other legal chihuahuas.......

63 posted on 01/05/2012 5:38:26 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Daffynition
Ya think that camera will protect ya do ya?

What about protective plexiglass like all the banksters have?

What about armed security? Ya think other retailers do not have armed security?

Have ya been to a big city lately bub?

Does this and other companies have an employee no weapon policies?

Well?

Ya want your daughter or son working at greedymart at 2:30 a.m.??

Well?

64 posted on 01/05/2012 5:49:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Regardless of a company policy, you do realize that the *biggest* losses a retail employer faces is from employee theft?

If that Cumby's has gas pumps, it's from drive-offs.

Often, the quicki-mart is the only available place that inner city people have to grab a gallon of milk, or pack of smokes. Many of these denizens do not have a car, and cannot take bus, late at night to Whole Foods, in the 'burbs, where you live, to stock up on the necessities. They provide a valuable service to the 'hood.

You obviously have a hard-on for Cumby's. Don't work there. Work in a place that has no policies/rules. Don't shop there. Don't own their stock. Write to corporate: http://www.cumberlandfarms.com/StayInTouch/default.aspx. Grow up!


65 posted on 01/05/2012 6:01:46 PM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

I couldn’t help but notice you evaded all the questions above.

See the tag line below.


66 posted on 01/05/2012 10:08:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Daffynition

You’re talking out your rump Daffy!

Bullet proof glass saves life of store clerk in NW Houston

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=5691763

Bullet-Proof Glass Saves Clerks From Shooter

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/bullet-proof-glass-saves-clerks-from-shooter/vCDmw/

Suspect fires at gas station clerk who is behind
bullet-proof glass- Clerk was hurt incident by gunfire

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-20111212-bp-robbery,0,5453070.story

Bullet barrier saves Texaco clerk
Prichard police seek trio of men, one of whom fired at gas station cashier during attempted robbery Sunday

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/index.ssf?/base/news/1216113322209370.xml&coll=3

There are hundreds more incidents where bullet resistant glass saved the clerk etc.


67 posted on 01/05/2012 10:55:55 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
>>I couldn’t help but notice you evaded all the questions above.<<

As have you, not answered any of my questions. I presumed that since *you* set up the *style* of this argument, ignoring your questions was merely another way saying *musta been rhetorical*.

So far, you've managed to punch holes in all your own arguments. Swiss cheese is in the reefer case at the end of aisle #4. Self-immolation has a long history and does make a point. You live up to your tagline well. Congrats.


68 posted on 01/06/2012 7:09:44 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: Daffynition

Ya think that camera will protect ya do ya?

What about protective plexiglass like all the banksters have?

What about armed security? Ya think other retailers do not have armed security?

Have ya been to a big city lately bub?

Does this and other companies have an employee no weapon policies?

Well?

Ya want your daughter or son working at greedymart at 2:30 a.m.??

Well?

Bullet proof glass saves life of store clerk in NW Houston

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=5691763

Bullet-Proof Glass Saves Clerks From Shooter

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/bullet-proof-glass-saves-clerks-from-shooter/vCDmw/

Suspect fires at gas station clerk who is behind
bullet-proof glass- Clerk was hurt incident by gunfire

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-20111212-bp-robbery,0,5453070.story

Bullet barrier saves Texaco clerk
Prichard police seek trio of men, one of whom fired at gas station cashier during attempted robbery Sunday

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/index.ssf?/base/news/1216113322209370.xml&coll=3

There are hundreds more incidents where bullet resistant glass saved the clerk etc.


69 posted on 01/06/2012 8:54:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Daffynition

You’re way out of your league here Daffy. But I’ll play.

List your specific questions by number, and I’ll do the same.

Lets see who is up to it.


70 posted on 01/06/2012 8:57:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CowboyConservative

He didn’t crawl out from under a rock. He knows something about retail money handling.

The money should be put through the slot in the drop safe. The store wouldn’t accept a $100 dollar bill. That customer would have to buy elsewhere or use a credit card.

The employee has no access to the drop safe and in many locations, the manager doesn’t either. The manager has one key and the armored car company that picks up the money has the other.

I ran a gas station during the last gas crisis (Jimmy Carter). The armored car company would often pick up more than $20,000 daily from the safe. Every $50, I or my employee on duty would put the money in an envelope and push it through a slot in a floor safe that we couldn’t open without the armored car company.


71 posted on 01/06/2012 9:41:03 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Poser

Not every buisness has a drop safe and not everybody in Wyoming accepts plastic.


72 posted on 01/06/2012 12:47:25 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: CowboyConservative

Cumberland farms does.


73 posted on 01/06/2012 1:11:42 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: CowboyConservative
You're a fairly stupid person, the kind I used to unapologetically tell to shop somewhere else.

You can set any policy you wish for any operation you run or own. The same is true of anyone else.

The facts:

---The more money in the till, the more likely a store will be robbed.

---The more robberies, the greater possibility that someone will be hurt or killed.

---Stores with this policy post it clearly for all to see.

---Funds in excess of the limit are dropped into a drop safe, the contents of which are not available to the clerk...that's where the "real" money is.

---The policy of limited cash didn't have the effect of increasing store sales, obviously, but of increasing clerk safety.

--To be effective, any policy has to be enforced. It appears that management was lax in this case.

As I told one indignant would-be customer many years ago, yes, sir, it is inconvenient for you. But I have no interest in calling Maggie's husband to tell him his wife won't be coming home.

You put a lesser value on your employee's lives. That is your choice...but it is hardly something to brag about.

74 posted on 01/07/2012 10:07:38 AM PST by gogeo
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
CF is brutal to their workers. They do not care about their safety...

The story contradicts that statement.

75 posted on 01/07/2012 10:10:57 AM PST by gogeo
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