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Election 2012: South Carolina Republican Primary(Romney 27%, Santorum 24%)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 01/06/2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/06/2012 6:17:53 AM PST by Rational Thought

What a difference a caucus makes. Rick Santorum who two months ago had one percent (1%) support among likely South Carolina Republican Primary voters now is running a close second there with 24% of the vote.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Palmetto State finds former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney still in the lead, earning 27% support from likely GOP Primary Voters, up from 23% in early November. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is in third with 18% of the vote, followed by Texas Congressman Ron Paul at 11%.

Bringing up the rear are Texas Governor Rick Perry with five percent (5%) and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman at two percent (2%). Another two percent (2%) of these likely primary voters like some other candidate, and 11% remain undecided

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1 posted on 01/06/2012 6:18:03 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

good grief, we are never going to get rid of Santorum now, I am afraid Romney may have this now because of Santorum :(


2 posted on 01/06/2012 6:23:14 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Rational Thought

Don’t believe any of the polls at this point.

It is unclear to me how Mitt Romney can get more than 25% of the SC caucus vote. And for him, expanding that percentage will be next to impossible. His support is NOT Elastic and his opposition is entrenched.

I simply do not see how Mitt can get the nomination.

He will not carry the south. Won’t happen.


3 posted on 01/06/2012 6:25:16 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

Look at these polls:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2829407/posts?page=8

Polls the Gee-Oh-Pee Don’t Want You to See

Newt is frontrunning and being hacked in polls.


4 posted on 01/06/2012 6:31:14 AM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: Rational Thought

18% (Newt)+ 5% (Perry)+24% (Santorum) = 47%.

Can’t conservatives add, or is it all ego?

If two of these conservatives dropped out, Mitty would be history.


5 posted on 01/06/2012 6:31:37 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Santorum, Newt and Perry are all to the right of Romney.

If just one of them got all the votes, Romney would be history - and THAT is what we want.


6 posted on 01/06/2012 6:33:48 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

None of the candidates are worth much (you name the candidate, someone will name the problems), but Santorum seems the best of the lot.
Since I don’t expect much from the government, all I want is someone to undo some of the damage Obama has done. The Federal Government is slow moving by design, that’s probably the best we can get from anyone.


7 posted on 01/06/2012 6:34:47 AM PST by conejo99
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To: Rational Thought
Romeny is already in SC stumping with McCain which in F.A.T. However, what is disappointing is DeMint and Haley supporting Romney.

Romney and the establishment are smart. They are taking Romney's 25% and making it look strong. Iowa spin is he did well for a Mormon in an evangelical state. In New Hampshire, the Spin will be that he sacrificed a larger victory to campaign in SC. In South Carolina, the spin will be he did well in a state that is not his base.

They are going to take his 25% to each state and wear down the opposition.

I think I will send money to both Newt and Santorum.

8 posted on 01/06/2012 6:40:12 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Texas Fossil
Romney is polling right where he has been, in the 25-30% range.

As pointed out already here, should the continued attrition of candidates occur, most of those supporters would likely go to Santorum.

Right now, Santorum is in great shape and it's his race to win or lose.

9 posted on 01/06/2012 6:42:37 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

Yep, Mitt has what he is going to get. With attrition of candidates the votes will go to “other than Mitt” candidates.

Just how it is.


10 posted on 01/06/2012 6:45:19 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: conejo99

Good news for Santorum fans... He’s replaced Newt for the moment (bounces have a shelf life) as the Romney alternative.

Bad news for the Santorum fans... Romney has significantly increases his support in S.C. as well.

Will the new flavor of the month have the wherewithal to pose a serious challenges to the Mitt Machine? Or will the air of inevitability suffocate the new upstart with little money or organization? Has Iowa sealed the fate for those pining for a Not Romney?

Four more debates between now and S.C.. Will they have an impact?

Odds. Based on this news from S.C.. Romney’s chances just got a lot better.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 6:48:06 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Awe.............hurt so bad.

Santorum will have the money and the BIG MO to compete in SC.

GO RICK!


12 posted on 01/06/2012 6:52:27 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: TBBT

Odds. Based on this news from S.C.. Romney’s chances just got a lot better.

Then Perry needs to drop out. He’s going NOWHERE.


13 posted on 01/06/2012 6:59:15 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: All

Bump for Rick Santorum!


14 posted on 01/06/2012 7:03:25 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Rational Thought
I find Perry's lack of support in SC surprising:

1. He has been very successfully governing one of the largest economies in the US and the world (Texas)

2. He is the only candidate with military experience and SC is full of military - active and veterans.

3. He is very conservative as are most in SC.

4. He is the only evangelical Christian in the group and SC is full of evangelical Christians.

Agreed his debating skills are lacking but good debaters do not make good presidents.

What's his problem?? - just asking!!

15 posted on 01/06/2012 7:03:25 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: tennmountainman

I think you meant to say..

Santorum will have the money and the BIG MO to ... split the vote enough to give Romney the win.

*sigh*


16 posted on 01/06/2012 7:14:41 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: 11th Commandment
DeMint and Haley endorsed Romney? Et tu, DeMint? I hadn't heard that DeMint went to the dark side too.

What in the hell is wrong with the Republican Party?

17 posted on 01/06/2012 7:16:06 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: ZULU
exactly! which is why the media hyped Santorum right before Iowa, to keep him in the race. That way their Mormon messiah can get the nomination.
18 posted on 01/06/2012 7:16:19 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Rational Thought

if great shape means no money, organization, or chance then yes Santorum is positioned in great shape.

*sigh*


19 posted on 01/06/2012 7:18:14 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Awe...........

First it was “wait till we get to SC”
Now it’s Santorum spliting the vote.
That’s all we have heard from u Newt Supporters
Well, well, well, We are about to get to SC.
Newt will get sliced and diced in SC, like he
got sliced and diced in Iowa.

If I were a Newt supporter, I’d want to know why
he is holding on to that war chest. He’s not doing
anything with money.

That’s why Perry needs to drop out.


20 posted on 01/06/2012 7:20:20 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

You seem happy as a clam about Romney winning.


21 posted on 01/06/2012 7:22:06 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Mase

Haley has endorsed Romney but DeMint as yet has not endorsed, and I don’t believe he’ll do so until after NH.


22 posted on 01/06/2012 7:23:30 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Awe....................

First it was “wait till Newt gets to SC”

Then it was “Santorum is splitting the vote”
(Nevermind the Fact that Perry is going nowhere)

And Now, it’s “I want Romney to win”

GO RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 01/06/2012 7:26:33 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Rational Thought

https://www.ricksantorum.com/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=1


24 posted on 01/06/2012 7:29:48 AM PST by JSDude1 (https://transaxt.com/Donate/PTWALC/RickSantorumforPresident)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“good grief, we are never going to get rid of Santorum now, I am afraid Romney may have this now because of Santorum :(”

Idiot bandwagon types.

They would have voted for Paul if he was in the same position.

I seriously hope SC isnt populated by a bunch of people that just follows Iowas stupidity.


25 posted on 01/06/2012 7:31:08 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: 11th Commandment

https://www.ricksantorum.com/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=1


26 posted on 01/06/2012 7:31:49 AM PST by JSDude1 (https://transaxt.com/Donate/PTWALC/RickSantorumforPresident)
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To: Texas Fossil

McCain did it, so can Romney.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 7:31:56 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Apparently Faux News stooge Scott Rasmussen uses the same people (if he calls anybody at all) to say Romney is winning this state or that state.

It is an absolute joke to even suggest that liberal Morman
Romney and Santorum are leading Newt Gingrich in SC.

I live in SC. Pigs will fly before liberal Morman Romney
wins the SC primary. Newt Gingrich will win, then follow up with a win in Florida.

Scott Rasmussen is on the Faux News payroll. He will never
report any poll numbers that show Romney losing. This
“lead” for Rommey in SC will be all that Faux News talks about today.

You believe in the tooth fairy is you believe this poll.
I almost chocked on my coffee when I read the headlines.


28 posted on 01/06/2012 7:32:30 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: TBBT

“Will the new flavor of the month have the wherewithal to pose a serious challenges to the Mitt Machine?”

There are no more flavors of the month. Santorum is it.

You can expect Newt and Perry to drop out after their single digit finish in SC. After NH they will sink even further.

Santorum will be the last man standing.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 7:32:30 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Rational Thought

This is GREAT news for Santorum. He has a lot of MO now. His 24% in this poll may be higher now. I think there is a lot of Bachmann, Perry and Cain supporters on his side now. And I think it is growing every day.


30 posted on 01/06/2012 7:34:47 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Maybe after NH Perry will drop out. Being from the south, maybe his numbers will go to Newt. Newt should begin to climb back up anyway once the debates begin.


31 posted on 01/06/2012 7:34:59 AM PST by Proudcongal
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To: elpadre
I find that surprising too. Perry's biggest negative is that he choked in the debates. That probably sticks in everybody’s mind. A politician that chokes in a debate is like a platoon leader that folds in an attack. I think he's made other mistakes that show he has a tin ear for hearing how his own statements sound. In his Iowa concession speech he read a letter someone sent to him saying that Rick was a great man. He may be a great man, but you don't read that out loud about yourself. Lack of humility turns people off. When the subject of adultery came up in the debates in regard to Newt, Perry wasn't very forgiving. Santorum, on the other hand, took the right line on it.
32 posted on 01/06/2012 7:35:13 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: tennmountainman
If I were a Newt supporter, I’d want to know why he is holding on to that war chest. He’s not doing anything with money.
Well that is certainly true for Newt's Super PAC. Nothing. Only an old McCain ad posted on the web. I've read that Winning the Future is still trying to raise the money to go on the air. Too little too late.

It's also partially true for Newt. Only one add, with buys in N.H. and S.C.. Newt's got a tougher row to hoe. The media spin and news headlines will not be favorable. Perception and momentum are key. Political herds will drift toward who the perceive winner is going to be. None of this is good news for Newt.

Santorum is lucky with his timing. He's riding the bounce out of Iowa, and there isn't enough time for the media and his competitors to do their dirty work. Santorum really doesn't need an ad campaign at the moment. Riding the wave, free media, and glowing headlines, are doing the work for him. Sooner or later that is going to change.
33 posted on 01/06/2012 7:36:29 AM PST by TBBT
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To: elpadre
There's little doubt that Perry's continued debate performances were strong contributors to his decline. Added to that, his defense of his in State reduced tuition's for illegal immigrants plays very poorly among many Republican voters (as, IMO, it should).

When you add those factors to his overall campaign, I think the issue many have with Perry is the same as with Romney or Gingrich, the trust factor. Most voters don't believe the candidates who are calling themselves “Conservative”.

For now (and maybe for good), Santorum is the most believable.

I've maintained all along that Perry's plunge isn't due to the media or some huge mistake by his campaign (or it's supporters). Perry did this to himself, with his weak defense of previous policy positions and his ongoing misstatements. What I don't know is if he really is this bad a campaigner or he just never truly put in the effort. Looking back at his campaigns in Texas, I don't think he needed to be a great campaigner in order to be victorious. As we all know, things are quite different in a Presidential campaign.

34 posted on 01/06/2012 7:37:32 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“You can expect Newt and Perry to drop out after their single digit finish in SC. After NH they will sink even further.

Santorum will be the last man standing.”

And he will lose because he has no fight. He’s never really confronted Romney (or anyone) and isnt even running against Obama.

All I’m hearing is that he doesn’t support abortion and he goes to church as his #1 and #2 selling points.

One hit from Romney and the Democrats, and it’s deer in the headlights.


35 posted on 01/06/2012 7:37:44 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: tennmountainman

when Gingrich was peaking, he was beating Romney by 23 in South Carolina.

Santorum is peaking now... and is losing to Romney by 3 in South Carolina, and your happy why?

If Santorum doesn’t implode soon Romney will win, it’s that simple.


36 posted on 01/06/2012 7:38:51 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Mase

DeMint has endorsed no one yet. He did endorse
Romney over McCain in 2008. If he endorses him
this time around he’ll be considered a joke exactly
the way the moron Nikki Haley is considered a joke of
a governor and is despised by her own party in SC.


37 posted on 01/06/2012 7:39:14 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Methinks Perry should have had this Poll for his...

Reassessment


38 posted on 01/06/2012 7:39:20 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: VanDeKoik

“And he will lose because he has no fight.”

Well, blame Iowa.

Nobody can say that Michele Bachmann has no fight but now she’s gone.

Good luck.


39 posted on 01/06/2012 7:43:35 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: ZULU

Santorum, Newt and Perry are all to the right of Romney.

If just one of them got all the votes, Romney would be history - and THAT is what we want.

Guess what/

South Carolina Primary is going to sort this out.


40 posted on 01/06/2012 7:44:06 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Awe............

You blames Santorum because Romney’s ahead. Yet the real fix to that is for Perry to drop out. Yet, u do not call for Perry to drop out. That is the logical solution, Right?


41 posted on 01/06/2012 7:45:15 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ZULU
18% (Newt)+ 5% (Perry)+24% (Santorum) = 47%.

Can’t conservatives add, or is it all ego?

Here on FR, where some of us just luuuuuv to devote post after post after post to trashing "Newtbots" or "Perrybots" (I suspect "Santbots" has already been coined by some freeper).....Yes. Yes, it IS all ego. All of it.

42 posted on 01/06/2012 7:46:32 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: elpadre

4 excellent points!

I suspect S Cackalaky is Gov Goodhairs last.


43 posted on 01/06/2012 7:48:56 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
You mentioned money in one of your previous posts. As per the Santorum campaign, they raised over $2 Million in just the past couple of days, and are in the process of beefing up organization.

As for poll numbers, the closer we get to the actual elections, the more accurate the poll numbers become.

44 posted on 01/06/2012 7:52:24 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: NKP_Vet

Thanks for your scouting report, on the ground in SC.


45 posted on 01/06/2012 7:55:37 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: elpadre
Several factors negatively impacting Perry (aside from the debate performances).

Finally, we can't overlook that awful debate moment when Perry could not remember the departments of government he wanted to eliminate as president which is supposedly a cornerstone of his platform. That would be like Herman Cain not being able to name the three components of his 9-9-9 plan or Newt not being able to remember the main points of his 1994 "Contract with America".

Unfortunately, that moment will haunt Perry for the rest of his political life. If Perry ever does make it to the nomination, the SNL people will have skits playing off that moment from the first show in September to the show right before the election. They will do to his image what Chevy Chase did to Gerald Ford during the run-up to the 1976 elections. Now realize that Gerald Ford was far from the bumbling, stumbling fool that Chevy Chase made him out to be on TV. But such is the power of the media that they can take a bad moment and turn it into national obsession. Witness what the same show did to Sarah Palin four years ago.

46 posted on 01/06/2012 7:58:10 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 34 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: tennmountainman
Because Perry has an organization and money to compete if he can just reconnect the other side of his brain during debates.

It's just too late for Santorum.

Look at it this way... Perry had his surge in September.. had millions and millions on hand and still couldn't get things together quick enough to even get on the Virginia ballot. Gingrich surged in December, and couldn't either.

Santorum is surging in January... 3 months from now he will have as much organization as Perry has now and 2 months from now as much as Gingrich.

3 months from now all the following states will have already voted:

1/3 Iowa caucuses
1/10 New Hampshire
1/21 South Carolina
1/31 Florida
2/4 Nevada
2/4 Maine
2/7 Minnesota
2/7 Colorado
2/28 Michigan
2/28 Arizona
3/3 Washington
3/6 Ohio
3/6 Alaska
3/6 Georgia
3/6 Massachusetts
3/6 north dakota
3/6 Oklahoma
3/6 Tennessee
3/6 Texas
3/6 Vermont
3/6 Virginia
3/6 Idaho
3/6 wyoming
3/10 kansas
3/10 virgin islands
3/13 Alabama
3/13 Mississippi
3/13 Hawaii
3/17 Missouri
3/20 Illinois
3/24 Louisiana
4/3 Maryland
4/3 District of Columbia
4/3 Wisconsin (moved from Feb 21st)

So how is Santorum going to win, if by the time he gets to Perry's current level of organization most of the voting has already happened?

He doesn't. Which means if Santorum doesn't implode soon Romney walks to the nomination.

47 posted on 01/06/2012 7:58:54 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Rational Thought

No more pro-Obama socialist crap.

All we get is LIES LIES AND MORE LIES.

Don’t believe what the leftist Democrats, the mainstream media, and Barbara Bush say about Santorum.

The Leftist/Progressive/Socialist axis is trying the demonize Santorum so they can pick the Republican candidate.

Here’s my analysis: 35% Leftist voters; 35% Conservative Voters and 30% Middle of the Road Swing Voters.

Obama gets the Leftists and half of the Middle = 52%.

Romney gets 25% of the Conservatives and 18% of the Middle = 43%

Santorum gets 18% of the Middle and 35% of Conservatives = 53%

They did it to us with McCain and they want to do it to us again with Romney.

You can fool me once but if we let this happen again and Obama gets re-elected, IT’S ALL OUR FAULT! EXPLAIN THAT TO YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.


48 posted on 01/06/2012 7:59:32 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: Rational Thought

"Vote Count Error? Did Rick Santorum Really Win the Iowa Caucuses?
DES MOINES, Iowa - Edward True, 28, of Moulton, said he helped count the votes
and jotted the results down on a piece of paper to post to his Facebook page.
He said when he checked to make sure the Republican Party of Iowa
got the count right, he said he was shocked to find they hadn’t.
“When Mitt Romney won Iowa by eight votes and I’ve got a
20-vote discrepancy here, that right there says Rick Santorum won Iowa,” True said. “Not Mitt Romney.”


"Several UNREPORTED news reports have it that Romney
did not win the Iowa Caucuses.
Barring any objective, verifiable proof that shows more than 12 votes mistakenly
being credited to Santorum, Romney lost."


"Could Typo Rewrite Caucus History? (Santorum may regain win)"



49 posted on 01/06/2012 8:02:27 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: CPT Clay
South Carolina Primary is going to sort this out.

Absolutely. The good folks in Palmetto country will give us a clearer view as to who the un-Romney will be, going forward.

50 posted on 01/06/2012 8:03:01 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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