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MSNBC Puts Two and Two Together and Comes Up with Zilch
thetruthaboutguns.com ^ | 6 January, 2012 | Bruce W. Krafft

Posted on 01/07/2012 5:39:04 AM PST by marktwain

A comforting report from msnbc.com highlights what they see as an incongruous silver lining in the country’s persistent economic doldrums: “Americans, take solace: While your chances of landing a job these days might not be great, you’re also less likely to be murdered, or robbed or to have your car stolen. The rate of major crimes in the U.S. continues to drop – even during the recent recession and its aftermath – and crime experts aren’t sure why.” Their “experts” explain that in every recession since WWII, there’s been an increase in crime rates. Criminologist and UC Berkeley law professor Franklin Zimring provides an appetizing visual by pointing out that, “What’s pushing it down is the mystery meat in the recipe of recent years.” But when he says “recent years,” what, precisely, does he mean?

According to recently released FBI crime statistics, the number of violent crimes — murder and non-negligent homicide, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault — reported in the first six months of 2011 declined 6.4 percent compared with the first six months of 2010. The number of property crimes (burglary, larceny-theft and motor vehicle theft) decreased 3.7 percent for the same time frame.

The report is based on information from more than 12,500 law enforcement agencies and shows the continuation of a downward trend in crime that began in 2008.

Hmmm, I wonder. Is there anything else that’s happened? Something that started in 2008 that might explain the drop in crime rates? Well, according to an October, 2008 story from the New York Times:

Sales of handguns, rifles and ammunition have surged in the past week, according to gun store owners around the United States who describe a wave of buyers concerned that an Obama administration will curtail their right to bear arms.

But is that just an anecdote or was that part of a bigger trend? According to the FBI, NICS checks (which are indicative of firearm sales) have been steadily rising since 2007. Looking at the 60 months of NICS checks from January 2007 through December 2011, there have only been eight months where sales didn’t rise over the previous year’s sales. In layman’s terms, people have been buying more guns each year than they did the year before. And the media have been all over this story for years.

So how does a non-credentialed, non-professorial, non-criminologist, non-journalist with no experts to call on connect these dots when a senior editor at msnbc.com can’t? It’s almost as if he’s wearing ideological blinkers or something. Perish the thought.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; gun; recession
You would think that these results have never been predicted by a scientist, or that there has never been a contentious debate about what would happen when the number of guns in a society are increased.

I guess MSNBC has completely forgotten about John Lott's seminal work, "More Guns, Less Crime".

1 posted on 01/07/2012 5:39:12 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I have never seen MSNBC...Is that what FR calls “PMSNBC”?

There are so many joys in no longer living there.


2 posted on 01/07/2012 5:50:35 AM PST by AlexW
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To: marktwain

MSNBC and Penn State share the same motto-—LEAN FORWARD—————————AND SPREAD YOUR CHEEKS


3 posted on 01/07/2012 5:59:53 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: marktwain

Boom Boom..


4 posted on 01/07/2012 6:03:38 AM PST by Track9 (There IS revolution brewing..)
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To: marktwain

Propagandists (formerly called “journalists”) purposefully ignore scientific facts and the truth. It appears they believe they will be eaten last by the socialism monster.


5 posted on 01/07/2012 6:08:00 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: marktwain

“”The rate of major crimes in the U.S. continues to drop – even during the recent recession and its aftermath – and crime experts aren’t sure why”””

Why bother steal when the head mob boss in the White House just hands you everything you need.


6 posted on 01/07/2012 6:22:14 AM PST by shelterguy
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7 posted on 01/07/2012 6:29:07 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: AlexW

I have never seen MSNBC...Is that what FR calls “PMSNBC”?

Yes, It is a propagandist arm of the liberal progressive movement fronting as a news outlet.

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/general-electric-parent-of-pro-obama-msnbc-received-24-9-million-in-economic-stimulus-money


8 posted on 01/07/2012 6:30:21 AM PST by Leep
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To: marktwain
More guns less crime works, but the major reason for the drop in reported crimes is that the police simply do not report all the crimes.

Nothing to make a politician look good like a drop in crime.

Stop compiling crime stats, change a few definitions, and soon you have lower crime stats.

9 posted on 01/07/2012 6:30:21 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: marktwain

A Leftist’s logic is about as useless as rubber lips on a woodpecker.


10 posted on 01/07/2012 6:33:45 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain
Something similar to this happened in 1993.

Suddenly the crime rate started dropping in January of 1993.

The MSM claimed crime was dropping because of Bill Clinton being elected president.

In reality crime wasn't going down, the dem controlled city and Co. govt were just reporting differently to make it appear crime was going down to make Bill Clinton look good.

Creating phony statistics to make it appear as if crime is going down is how you get gun control legislation passed.

See how it works. Since crime is down, you don't need a gun.

Be very cautious of crime statics when you have a dem as president.

11 posted on 01/07/2012 6:39:51 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: AlexW

I have a leftist friend that cannot stand PMSNBC, shows how bad it truly is.


12 posted on 01/07/2012 7:22:55 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: marktwain

Ideological blinkers?????

How about blinders?


13 posted on 01/07/2012 4:30:07 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: texas booster

You nailed it.

We had a home invasion last year. Never made the newspaper or the Tv news.


14 posted on 01/07/2012 4:33:44 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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