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Another Romney layoff victim, this one a conservative, speaks out
Washington Post ^ | 1/6/2012 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 01/07/2012 9:10:07 AM PST by Qbert

Reuters published a blockbuster story today on GS Technologies, a steel mill in Kansas City that was acquired by Bain Capital, leading to the layoffs of some 750 workers. In this case, the workers lost promised severance pay and health insurance; their pension benefits were slashed. and a federal government insurance agency had to bail out the company’s pension plan — even as Bain raked in millions and millions of dollars in profits.

Now a man who says he worked at the plant for 34 years — a self-described conservative — is speaking out about Romney.

Glen Patrick Wells, who lives in Peculiar, Missouri, agreed to appear in a new MoveOn.org video in order to speak out about what the layoffs did to the surrounding community.

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“I spent 34 years in this steel mill,” Wells says in the video. “They walked out of here with millions. They left us with nothing.”

I reached Wells today, and unlike Box, he tells me he’s a conservative, who has switched back and forth from Republican to independent, and says he voted for George W. Bush for president in 2000 and 2004 and John McCain in 2008. (He has also supported Claire McCaskill for Senate.) Yet despite his leanings, he was willing to conspire with MoveOn to produce this video, which is a pretty good preview of the sort of thing you’ll be seeing in ads in struggling Rust Belt communities against Romney, should he become the GOP nominee.

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“Right now, if Romney gets in, I am so disgusted that I will probably vote for Obama and I detest him,” Wells says. “Anyone who is willing to put a predatory capitalist in office deserves to get Obama.”

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A preview of what's to come if the "most electable" guy wins the nomination...
1 posted on 01/07/2012 9:10:09 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Surely, Ron Paul or Newt will use it against “Mr. Conservative” and I know how to create jobs, Romney.


2 posted on 01/07/2012 9:15:30 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; randita; BillyBoy; InterceptPoint; Gator113; SJackson; ...

So perhaps this is why the MSM is pushing for Romney.


3 posted on 01/07/2012 9:20:30 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: freeangel

4 posted on 01/07/2012 9:21:28 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude (o)(o)
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To: Qbert

This is reminiscent of “A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.”
No, I’m not a liberal.
However, people will be people and I’m very concerned that, somehow, the upcoming elections will go in a direction that will be very deleterious to all of us.
I’ve been asking around for strategies w/o being too obvious since I don’t want to telegraph our punches. I haven’t seen any way to present a united front to the Marxists. Am convinced that we are in the majority. If we’re fragmented, not so much.
We need to get it together, and soon.


5 posted on 01/07/2012 9:21:57 AM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: Qbert
New term, “predatory Capitalist”. I guess “crony Capitalist” is so 2011.

Too bad Romney, who I would still vote for over Obama BTW, doesn't have the spine to call Obama a Socialist.

Then again, I look at Obama as a “predatory Communist”.

6 posted on 01/07/2012 9:27:22 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Qbert

So under Obama, the country has lost something like 5 or 6 million jobs and real incomes have dropped for those people with jobs. The economic misery inflicted by O’s failed policies is wide and deep. But the MSM won’t report heart-tugging stories of people suffering under O’s policies. But of course layoffs at the behest of Bain are to be highlighted and used to create a template against Romney. Not defending Romney in any way, just absolutely disgusted that the media won’t report how much real pain O’s policies have caused.


7 posted on 01/07/2012 9:29:03 AM PST by vekzen
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To: Qbert
Of course.
Romney will be portrayed as Gordon Gekko, Gingrich as "Chuckie's Grandpa," Perry as Dan Quayle II, and Santorum as a religious nut, as well as the person who will overturn Roe v. Wade.

The Obamamedia will never miss a chance to tear down any of the primary candidates, but will reserve the bulk of their fire until after the convention. Then they'll unleash the dogs on the GOP nominee, whoever it is, as they know the attention span of most Americans is very, very short. So yes, they are holding back the best stuff for later use.

Anyone who doesn't already know this, and isn't prepared for it, doesn't follow politics with a close enough eye.

8 posted on 01/07/2012 9:30:26 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Kickass Conservative
New term, “predatory Capitalist”. I guess “crony Capitalist” is so 2011.

I'm already hearing "creative destruction" every five minutes, spoken with the obligatory sneer.

9 posted on 01/07/2012 9:32:17 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Qbert
Now I would like to hear from one of the 100,000 jobs that was created by Staples corporation after it was acquired by Bain.

I expect the candidates to mix it up and testing them with a little dirt and controversy is part of the test.
10 posted on 01/07/2012 9:32:55 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Qbert
This is the same crap they pulled on Carly Fiorina in CA when she ran for Senate. It worked brilliantly considering she lost against our dumb as a rock Senator Barbara Boxer.

Former HP Employees whining about being laid off when HP would have gone Bankrupt without the staff reductions.

That's just the way it is. You won't see any ads showing Obama and Jon Corzine who made millions on the backs of the investors he screwed while walking away with $100 Million.

11 posted on 01/07/2012 9:34:21 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: truthkeeper

The astonishing thing to me is that the Republican establishment does little to nothing to fight MSM bias. They just allow the MSN to frame debates and create the templates to use against Republicans in general and individual Republican candidates. Not sure a media boycott is the best idea. . . but clearly RNC needs to be more aggressive in fighting the MSM. Rince Princess?? Where’s Rince Princess????


12 posted on 01/07/2012 9:37:42 AM PST by vekzen
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To: vekzen

LOL. (I still don’t know how to say it.)


13 posted on 01/07/2012 9:39:25 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: truthkeeper

"The Obamamedia will never miss a chance to tear down any of the primary candidates, but will reserve the bulk of their fire until after the convention. Then they'll unleash the dogs on the GOP nominee, whoever it is, as they know the attention span of most Americans is very, very short. So yes, they are holding back the best stuff for later use."

Yep. McCain part 2.

14 posted on 01/07/2012 9:41:04 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
"(He has also supported Claire McCaskill for Senate.)

This tells me everything I need to know about this guy. What a tool.

15 posted on 01/07/2012 9:42:42 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Qbert

We should pass a law that there should not be any layoffs anytime, that way companies can completely crash and burn so everybody loses their job from the janitor to the CEO. This thinking reminds me of the old Russian parable. Boris and Ivan are peasants and Ivan has a cow, while Boris does not. A Genie comes to Boris and grants him one wish. Boris wishes for Ivan’s cow to die. Our doom is not in any policy choices made by our politicians but in the spreading peasant attitudes of the masses.


16 posted on 01/07/2012 9:42:42 AM PST by gusty
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To: Qbert

There is a downside to leveraged buyout firms like Bain and others.

It values the highest use of the dollar in the short-term over the highest value of the dollar in the long-term. I’ve witnessed it first hand.

It will be a legitimate discussion about RINOmney’s history and source of wealth.


17 posted on 01/07/2012 9:47:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Qbert; All

Another hit-job slam article VERY SHORT ON FACTS...

GS was an AGING, money-losing Steel Mill facing imminent closure because they couldn’t pay for the upgrades required under the Clean Air Act. And they were just like dozens of other small steel mills in America.

Romney& Co. bought it, paid for upgrading it, then SOLD IT. The pensions were lost in the LATER 2001 BANKRUPTCY, the mill went out of business when it filed Chapter 11 again in 2007, YEARS AFTER BAIN SOLD IT!

These people bought ALREADY TROUBLED COMPANIES, and tried to fix them.


18 posted on 01/07/2012 9:48:14 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf
Of course, but don't expect the media to point that out.
That will be the candidate's job.
19 posted on 01/07/2012 9:50:06 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Qbert

He’s not winning the nomination


20 posted on 01/07/2012 9:51:23 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Qbert

This is a two-fer for the socialist establishment. They get folks riled up against Romney and get conservatives defending Romney.

Win-win, for them.


21 posted on 01/07/2012 9:52:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Romney is Obama.)
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To: vekzen

"The astonishing thing to me is that the Republican establishment does little to nothing to fight MSM bias."

That's because at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter whether we win, or not, to them. Karl Rove will still make big bucks being a pundit- no matter how wrong he turned out being; George Will will still have his, (resting on his laurels), McCain will still be blaming Conservatives for all of Obama's failures. What matters in the end is their jobs.

And the Establishment Republicans will just churn out another self-funding, hapless candidate (Fiorina, Meg Whitman, Romney, etc.) the next time around that nobody really wants.

22 posted on 01/07/2012 9:53:23 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Also, the article also doesn’t mention that this mill had a RADICAL UNION, that went on strike, rather than accept paycuts and technology upgrades that meant fewer jobs, at an already nearly bankrupt company that S&P was already downgrading the credit of, in 1997.

I’ve seen this same story, repeated over, and over, and over, over the years.


23 posted on 01/07/2012 9:53:42 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: vekzen

“The economic misery inflicted by O’s failed policies is wide and deep. But the MSM won’t report heart-tugging stories of people suffering under O’s policies.”

I was just talking about this with a friend. If a Republican was president, there would have been non-stop stories in the MSM about the “Hoovervilles” as a result of their policies.

BTW, the floodgates have opened. Jimmy Kimmel did a set in his monologue last night about Romney’s Mormon roots, including his grandpa practicing polygamy.


24 posted on 01/07/2012 9:58:09 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Kickass Conservative
Too bad Romney, who I would still vote for over Obama BTW, doesn't have the spine to call Obama a Socialist.

And "socialist" is merely the polite word for "communist".
No, don't look for anything ballsy from Mittens.

25 posted on 01/07/2012 10:00:01 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: tcrlaf

"Another hit-job slam article VERY SHORT ON FACTS... GS was an AGING, money-losing Steel Mill facing imminent closure because they couldn’t pay for the upgrades required under the Clean Air Act. And they were just like dozens of other small steel mills in America..."

He's going to have to communicate all of that the public in a convincing way if he's the nominee, because nobody in the MSM will. The last thing we want is another Fiorina, completely speechless whenever the MSM and Dems bashed her for "cutting thousands of jobs at HP and sending them overseas".

26 posted on 01/07/2012 10:08:38 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

My question is why NO ONE has asked Romnuts about BAIN Capitals donation to the Foundation Cordray ran and donated ONLY to DEMOCRATS?

But hey it was only $5000.


27 posted on 01/07/2012 10:15:48 AM PST by marty60
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To: tcrlaf

Also, it should be noted that Bain paid $75Mil for the company, invested something like $20 Mil in new equipment, and only made $4 mil selling it.

Not including expenses.

As I said, this is a MEDIA HIT JOB.


28 posted on 01/07/2012 10:19:18 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Qbert

Well i expect the left to do this! This is class warfare which I don’t buy into!


29 posted on 01/07/2012 10:29:46 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Kickass Conservative

“You won’t see any ads showing Obama and Jon Corzine who made millions on the backs of the investors he screwed while walking away with $100 Million.”

At this point, you probably will not see it, either. Any person or group who does put out such information may very well find themselves rotting in a prison cell somewhere, labeled an enemy of the state.


30 posted on 01/07/2012 10:44:31 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Fu-fu2

The pundits are not allowed to talk negatively about Obama. So, they leap on the Republicans.

This is why we need a Republican candidate who can hit back just as well as the MSM dishes it out. I want a pit bull nominee, not a dish rag!


31 posted on 01/07/2012 10:48:29 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Qbert; All

My opinion: the layoffs from Romney are NOTHING compared to the lost jobs under Hussein.

Romney isn’t the most popular guy here on FR, and he isn’t the embraced by our household...but he sure as HELL isn’t the same as Hussein.

Hussein is worse than Romney by quantum leaps. Right now I am concentrated on firing Hussein in November, and I don’t care which of our Republican candidates takes the office.

I know that isn’t a popular position here; but it is my honest opinion.

I think four more years of Hussein—who has already shown he will defy federal courts and Congress—will be worse for this nation than four years of PAUL/HUNTSMAN/NEWT/PERRY/SANTORUM/ROMNEY.

My theory, which I feel obliged to repeat again, is that Hussein HATES America. He wants to bring the nation DOWN. But NONE of the Republicans hate America—even if they are wrong about certain issues, they at least care about the well being of this country. That fact alone makes it important that they defeat Hussein in November.


32 posted on 01/07/2012 10:53:17 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Qbert
"At its peak in 1970, the Kansas City plant, then owned by Armco Steel Corp, employed 4,500 people. Poor market conditions forced a wave of layoffs in the early 1980s and led the company to prune its product line. By the early 1990s, the plant focused on two items: wire for products such as mattress springs and tires; and high-carbon balls and rods used by the mining industry to pulverize rocks."

ARMCO's fault.

33 posted on 01/07/2012 10:58:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Qbert

Everybody likes money. Some make it, some take it-that’s the difference.


34 posted on 01/07/2012 11:01:12 AM PST by Spok (Who is Sam Zemurray?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Well, I’m in that foxhole with you, FRiend.


35 posted on 01/07/2012 11:01:46 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Qbert

i don’t like Mitt

but this sorta stuff reeks of populist resentment

you own or manage business

folks get laid off or fired when you need to

or you go broke


36 posted on 01/07/2012 11:04:00 AM PST by wardaddy (I fear we cannot beat Roger Ailes and beltway GOP)
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To: wardaddy

How many Americans has Obama laid off? I don’t think Bambi wants to have this discussion in an open debate.


37 posted on 01/07/2012 11:19:38 AM PST by Herodes
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To: Qbert

How many GM and Chrysler dealerships were shut down by Obama, and how many private sector jobs were lost? How many jobs are being blocked by his refusal to allow the oil pipeline from Canada? Drilling in the gulf?

Romney is a piker compared to the Kenyan on killing jobs.


38 posted on 01/07/2012 11:20:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: truthkeeper

Thanks, truthkeeper. The die may be cast for this primary fight, and I’m willing to work to defeat Hussein. The stakes are too high.


39 posted on 01/07/2012 11:23:20 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: leapfrog0202

40 posted on 01/07/2012 11:36:51 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: wardaddy

"i don’t like Mitt

but this sorta stuff reeks of populist resentment

I understand that, and I'm sure most Conservatives do, as well. But he hasn't effectively addressed this. And if Romney thinks he can just sit back if he gets the nomination and let the MSM and Obama punch him in the face like McCain did, and not fight back, there's going to be trouble. (And it wouldn't hurt to whip up a little of his own populist frenzy in the process, IMO).

41 posted on 01/07/2012 11:49:40 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Paladin2

One customer outforced overseas by Democrat policies, the other forced to CLOSE due to Democrat environmental policies, so it must be - - ROMNEY’S FAULT!


42 posted on 01/07/2012 12:15:27 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

Looks like Bain managed the eventual death of one steel plant (out of 100’s - see Youngtown and Pittsburgh).


43 posted on 01/07/2012 12:41:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: tcrlaf
Thanks for interjecting some facts about the GS buyout. Almost as disturbing to me as the MSM’s willful distortion of the truth is that some people on FR will drink the “LBOs are evil” Kool-Aid as well.
44 posted on 01/07/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

In the long run, we’re all dead....;-)


45 posted on 01/07/2012 12:43:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: vekzen

The MSM knows that Democrats don’t hurt people, Republicans do.


46 posted on 01/07/2012 1:18:49 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Qbert
Anyone who is willing to put a predatory capitalist in office deserves to get Obama.- Glen Patrick Wells

Obama's stuffed his pockets with money from 'predatory capitalists'. I doubt this will stick. 750 jobs lost that very well might have been lost anyway v. millions of jobs lost unnecessarily due to Obama's policies.

Mr. Wells is ignorant.

47 posted on 01/07/2012 1:23:00 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Great points.


48 posted on 01/07/2012 1:24:02 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Qbert

Why the conservative candidates are not using this against Mitt is beyond me.


49 posted on 01/07/2012 1:34:30 PM PST by Grunthor (Not Romney 2012.)
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To: freeangel; 1rudeboy

Let’s not let the Left get away with a condemnation of capitalism via Romney. Here’s a great article by Jim Pethokoukis:

http://blog.american.com/2012/01/why-is-romney-doing-such-a-lousy-job-defending-his-record-at-bain-capital/

Whether Romney wins or loses, Newt, Santorum, FReepers, the TEA Party, and the GOP better defend capitalism because Obama’s putting it on trial. If we lose you get Cook County, IL on a national scale.


50 posted on 01/07/2012 1:41:23 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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