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Good Girl with Gun Lives, Bad Guy with Knife Dies
Townhall.com ^ | January 8, 2012 | Doug Giles

Posted on 01/08/2012 6:26:17 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/08/2012 6:26:19 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Mega BTT


2 posted on 01/08/2012 6:31:57 AM PST by MattinNJ
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To: Kaslin

My NRA magazine has similar, under-reported stories in the Armed Citizen section each month.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 6:33:11 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals who love politics and playing the lottery are “antigun/antiwar” hypocrites... it’s only because the perp got severe demotion and handed the sword to her trigger finger that Obama liberal fascist like Obama balk... because they know they and the government filth are too much like the perp.


4 posted on 01/08/2012 6:33:11 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Kaslin

Multiply this event by 100,000 and you would have a pretty good start on a civilized society.


5 posted on 01/08/2012 6:34:16 AM PST by STYRO (Take this government and shove it.)
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 01/08/2012 6:34:43 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: JudgemAll

They want to take the guns away from law abiding citizen. Remember Rosie O’Donnell? Who had an armed guard.


7 posted on 01/08/2012 6:38:51 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: jdsteel

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/first-armed-citizen/


8 posted on 01/08/2012 6:42:39 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Kaslin
Best report on this I've found.
9 posted on 01/08/2012 6:49:03 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Kaslin

Justice is most efficiently served at the time of the incident if the intended victim can hand out the sentence to the assailant. Anything else is usually inefficient, costly or unjust.


10 posted on 01/08/2012 6:49:35 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

She is my personal hero at the moment. I have been meaning to get trained for years and keep putting it off. The premiss of this story is correct (if I am understanding it correctly). It is like the mamogram that I have been meaning to get,and keep putting off,everytime I see reminders for it, I am that much more likely to go make an appointment to do it. That is the whole point of the breast cancer awareness thing, right? This is a story that, if told repeatedly when it occurs, could save lives. It could save mine one day. I am motivated to go get my training by this one story. How many others would be if we heard more?


11 posted on 01/08/2012 6:50:48 AM PST by T.O.K.
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To: Kaslin

I’m curious as to why this incident is getting so much play in the media. I read stories about armed citizens killing POS criminals all the time on FR. Why does this particular incident grab so many people?

Also, this author’s vernacular writing style is really obnoxious.


12 posted on 01/08/2012 6:59:31 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Also, this author’s vernacular writing style is really obnoxious.

Thank you. I was about to say the same thing. Great girl, though.

13 posted on 01/08/2012 7:12:55 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: jdsteel

I have a binder containing twenty years of American Rifleman’s “The Armed Citizen”. Fun reading, especially when the perp assumed his victim lacked the nerve to shoot and shortly thereafter is either dead on the victim’s lawn or is insisting to the EMT nurse that he was at home cleaning his gun when it went off by itself, twice.

The assembled stories also demonstrate the wisdom of having enough gun. Too many perps shot with .22 pistols survive to stand trial.

Someone wrote that these evildoers attended the husband’s funeral and figured the young widow would be easy pickin’s. Gives new meaning to guarding the house during the service.


14 posted on 01/08/2012 7:12:58 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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15 posted on 01/08/2012 7:18:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
Merry Christmas from the 2nd Amendment
16 posted on 01/08/2012 7:22:41 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: TangoLimaSierra; Future Snake Eater
It doesn’t read all that well but he sounds hilarious. Listen to him on his website.

Clash Radio

17 posted on 01/08/2012 7:27:16 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: elcid1970

The assembled stories also demonstrate the wisdom of having enough gun. Too many perps shot with .22 pistols survive to stand trial.////
Priceless...


18 posted on 01/08/2012 7:30:38 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, $pend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: Kaslin
There is a difference in this story and one that in California a while back.

In this story the 911 operator told the woman, "I can't tell you to shoot, but you need to protect yourself and do what's right."

In an identical situation in California, the 911 operator told the woman to put the gun away so she didn't provoke the intruder or harm someone.

19 posted on 01/08/2012 7:33:50 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“... I’m curious as to why this incident is getting so much play in the media”.

I have wondered that myself. I figure this incident has all the “drama” of a made for t.v. movie. Young, beautiful widow.... three month old infant, living alone in an isolated area and two ruffian, burly males. IMHO, this story has captured people’s interest because they know if she wasn’t armed... this incident would more than likely turned out horrible for the woman and her child.


20 posted on 01/08/2012 7:36:45 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Baynative
In an identical situation in California, the 911 operator told the woman to put the gun away so she didn't provoke the intruder or harm someone.

I didn’t see that one. Got a link?

21 posted on 01/08/2012 7:45:13 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Travis McGee

Education/freedom/history BUMP!


22 posted on 01/08/2012 7:54:11 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Pontiac

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818359/posts


23 posted on 01/08/2012 7:58:25 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I think one reason it is getting so much play is the race of the dirtbags. No one is coming forward to say they were misunderstood yutes. Reporters don’t have to worry about getting certain people upset.


24 posted on 01/08/2012 7:58:37 AM PST by ozaukeemom (No to Romney, no how, no way, no money, no vote)
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To: Kaslin
Just bear in mind this important point:

If the Gun Grabbers and the rest of the Socialists in the Nation had their way,

That young woman would have been DISARMED and at the mercy of the knife wielding thugs.

25 posted on 01/08/2012 8:00:46 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Just off the top of my head, I recall two errors as I quickly read over this: They referred to her baby, Justin, as being a 3 yr. old, and they quoted her as saying “Get a dispatcher out here quickly” not “get a dispatch out here quickly”, as it showed from the tape. Either these errors were just sloppy writing/editing or they were trying to subtly make her out to be questionable.


26 posted on 01/08/2012 8:02:16 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Bump


27 posted on 01/08/2012 8:02:56 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I was about to say that, his style of writing is very grating.
28 posted on 01/08/2012 8:06:29 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: Pontiac
No link - it was years ago. The incident got lots of publicity when they played the 911 call repeatedly on Bay Area radio.

The woman was getting her daughter ready for school when an intruder entered the house. She called 911 and said she was upstairs with her daughter and had a gun. The operator told he to put the gun away and she said, NO.

The next thing heard was the woman yelling that she had a gun and knew how to use it, followed by two or three shots.

Then she told the operator, "he's gone."

She had fired warning shots down the stair well and the guy took off. I think they caught him down the road.

29 posted on 01/08/2012 8:07:31 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Kaslin

She did what she had to do, end of story.


30 posted on 01/08/2012 8:08:49 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: ASA Vet
From the article in your link

Ms McKinley's 58-year-old husband Kenneth had died from lung cancer on Christmas Day, leaving behind their three-year-old son Justin, and an arsenal of cancer medications.

That's the first time I heard or read how old her husband was. Also, their son was 3 month old, not 3 years

31 posted on 01/08/2012 8:09:36 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ASA Vet
From the article in the Daily Mail:

The Oklahoma Castle Doctrine, otherwise known as the Make My Day law

LOL. Haven't heard it called that before.

32 posted on 01/08/2012 8:12:56 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Future Snake Eater; TangoLimaSierra

Doug Giles is very pro 2nd amendments rights!!! Are you against those?


33 posted on 01/08/2012 8:14:53 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ASA Vet
Best report on this I've found.

Thanks for posting. Agree it is the most in depth, something our US papers should be doing and yet another reason I monitor the foreign press.

I particularly like their description about the surviving perp:

LEFTOVERS

34 posted on 01/08/2012 8:16:32 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m talking about the style of writing not the substance. Thought that was pretty clear.


35 posted on 01/08/2012 8:21:08 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Kaslin

The lesson in this story is that if you are dumb enough to rely on a 911 call to save you, you are harboring a death wish.


36 posted on 01/08/2012 8:21:23 AM PST by iontheball
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To: STYRO
Multiply this event by 100,000 and you would have a pretty good start on a civilized society.

Most crime is committed by a relatively small number of chronic criminals. How many robberies, burglaries, and muggings does a criminal need to do to get enough cash to supply himself with food and drugs? At least one per day. This girl probably made a significant dent in the crime statistics for her area for the upcoming year.

37 posted on 01/08/2012 8:23:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Baynative

The 911 operator was exactly right and knows the law in OK which is that in Oklahoma you have the right to protect yourself during a home invasion, which in Kalifornia you don’t have


38 posted on 01/08/2012 8:24:46 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Why does this particular incident grab so many people?

It has sellable drama—her husband died on Christmas day of cancer and, like a prairie wife with wolves at the door, she grabs the shotgun to protect her baby. They can sell that by attempting to jerk a few tears.

What I find interesting is how unsympathetic to this cause the young lady is. Listening to her you don't feel sorry for her since she doesn't act like a pathetic victim. I hope she and her baby will now have a blessed life.

39 posted on 01/08/2012 8:28:52 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: ozaukeemom
I think one reason it is getting so much play is the race of the dirtbags.

First of all let the horses think as they have larger heads. Second the dirt bags where white not black

40 posted on 01/08/2012 8:32:30 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Exactly


41 posted on 01/08/2012 8:36:11 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Future Snake Eater

***I’m curious as to why this incident is getting so much play in the media.***

The media went on an anti-gun tirade back in 1963 when Kennedy got shot. From that day, we saw lots of anti-gun newspaper articles and anti-gun themes were worked into all TV shows, even the western and detective and comedies had their anti-gun lines. Some western movies of the early 1970s had anti-gun themes.

Any good use of a gun was played down or turned into a “vigilante” discussion.

When an armed civilian helped a policeman stop the Texas Tower shooter, his role was downplayed When a TV movie was made of it, the writers managed to sneak in a very anti-gun line, and, at the end of the movie, a voice over advertizement for another show was used to cover up a statement that the shooter had a brain tumor which may or may not caused his rampage.

Why is it that I remember all these details after 41 years when the TV movie was broadcast?

And don’t get me started on the only Archie Bunker, or Heck (Richard Boone) Ramsey, or Dennis Weaver spouting anti-gun lines.

It was hoped by politicians that all handguns would be permanently banned by 1979.


42 posted on 01/08/2012 8:48:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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43 posted on 01/08/2012 8:58:38 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I had my little .22 Browning lady gun. My son got a beautiful .357 magnum S&W revolver and came over to show it off. Mama promptly confiscated it. “If Mama ain’t happy, nobodies happy” is the working philosphy here.


44 posted on 01/08/2012 9:00:22 AM PST by Himyar
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To: Himyar

Didn’t see it mentioned where it took the cops 20 minutes to arrive at her house.


45 posted on 01/08/2012 9:03:14 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: FrdmLvr
Here is the video and her husband does not look like he was 58 years old like the article in The Mail claims

Oklahoma Mother, 18, Kills Intruder Breaking Into Her Home While on Phone With 911

Also

Shepard Smith Speaks with Mother Who Killed Intruder to Protect Infant Son

46 posted on 01/08/2012 9:05:32 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: FrdmLvr

I love the part where they explain that it took the perp 20 minutes to break in the house. Nowhere does it explain why in 20 minuts the cops couldn’t get there.


47 posted on 01/08/2012 9:11:15 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin

Some of the comments are ridiculous.. wound the robber indeed.
And that pic of her hubby (with the beard) looks like it’s about 30 years old heh.


48 posted on 01/08/2012 9:12:01 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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"called 911 to get a green light from dispatch"

???
Wait... what?

49 posted on 01/08/2012 9:14:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Click on the first link in my post#46 and watch the video


50 posted on 01/08/2012 9:22:36 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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