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Family of dead robbery suspect speaks(VA)
wavy.com ^ | 9 January, 2012 | Anne McNamara

Posted on 01/09/2012 6:39:23 AM PST by marktwain

NORFOLK, Va. (WAVY) - The family of a robbery suspect, shot and killed in the act, is speaking out.

Police say Raymond Davis, 22, of Norfolk, and two other men tried to rob Rogers Sport's Pub in Chesapeake Friday Night.

Witnesses told WAVY.com one of the patrons in the bar shot and killed Davis during the attempted robbery. It's the same story detectives told his grandmother Sheila Davis.

"The man went outside and came back in with his gun and shot him down," said Davis. "It's like shooting a dog down. He is a human being."

Davis says her grandson got mixed up with the wrong crowd. While she doesn't condone his behavior, she wants the public to respect her family in this time of grief.

"I'm not trying to sweet-coat nothing," said Davis. "He went in there to rob the place, but eventually he got killed is the result of it."

Witnesses say Davis and two other men entered the bar armed, wearing masks, and demanding money.

Shelia Davis is asking police to investigate the circumstances of the shooting and what happened after her grandson fell to the floor.

"They beat him with pool sticks," said Davis. "Why would you beat a person with pool sticks when he's already laying on the floor dead?"

Davis says her grandson was in the process of turning his life around. She says he had a steady job at a nearby McDonald's, and was the father to a 2-year-old with another baby on the way.

"They sit there and talk about it like it's a joke or something," said Davis. "It's not a joke. My grandson is gone. He's never coming back."

Police won't say if the person who shot Davis could possibly face charges.

They are still looking for the two other suspects who fled, possibly in a light blue Ford Taurus.

Stay with WAVY.com for the latest on this developing story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; defense; goodriddanceperp; robber; va; virginia
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The respons has become stereotypical on freerepublic. Consider that this is a real mother, in real grief and real denial.

Yes, her son was a criminal and the shooting was justified.

Mothers, do not raise your sons to be criminals. It will not end well.

What LBJ and the Democrats have done, intentionaly or not, to the black family, has created horrific consequences.

1 posted on 01/09/2012 6:39:34 AM PST by marktwain
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Yep, he was turning his life around....


2 posted on 01/09/2012 6:41:57 AM PST by Maverick68
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"Why would you beat a person with pool sticks when he's already laying on the floor dead?"

Got to make Damned sure he is really really dead and the coroner probably can't come right away!

3 posted on 01/09/2012 6:44:11 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: marktwain

It appears the person interviewed is his grandmother, not the mother.

Yes, he is a human being, but he also chose to go into a bar and attempt to rob other human beings.

He got what he deserved and there’s one less thug criminal in the world to terrorize other, non criminal human beings.


4 posted on 01/09/2012 6:46:01 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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"I'm not trying to sweet-coat nothing," said Davis. "He went in there to rob the place, but eventually he got killed is the result of it."

Yup, that's pretty much the beginning and end of it, isn't it grandma?

While I sympathize with you in your personal loss, I am NOT sorry that yet another violent criminal has been permanently removed from circulation. If you have other grandchildren, PLEASE try to convince them that his way is not the right way.

5 posted on 01/09/2012 6:46:51 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: marktwain
Davis says her grandson was in the process of turning his life around. She says he had a steady job at a nearby McDonald's, and was the father to a 2-year-old with another baby on the way.

His father was unknown, his mother dead of crack and LBJ, upon the passage of his vaunted "Great Society" legislation, said, "We'll have these niggers voting demonRAT for the next 100 years".

That is all the demonRATs care about, they don't give fat rat's ass about the human misery that they have caused with their BS cradle to grave welfare system.

I feel bad for the grand mother who was doing her best having to raise her daughter's bastards.

6 posted on 01/09/2012 6:48:04 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: marktwain
Perp tries to break the law, perp gets capped.


7 posted on 01/09/2012 6:49:38 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: marktwain

The father of a two year old and another baby on the way...
Different mothers, no doubt.
Turning his life around. Right.


8 posted on 01/09/2012 6:50:03 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Maverick68
Yep, he was turning his life around....

Well, he has now given up a life of crime...permanently.

9 posted on 01/09/2012 6:50:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: marktwain

-——”Why would you beat a person with pool sticks when he’s already laying on the floor dead?” -——

Or in other words, when the horse beating raises pink goo, it’s time to cease whomping on the dead horse.

I have asked the question my self but the Sarah bots persist flailing away with the pool cues


10 posted on 01/09/2012 6:56:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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“”They sit there and talk about it like it’s a joke or something,” said Davis”

He WAS a stereotypical joke that grandma was at least partially responsible for raising. Lie down with dogs and you can get shot like a rabid dog. ‘Just sayin’.


11 posted on 01/09/2012 6:59:10 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: marktwain
"He went in there to rob the place, but eventually he got killed is the result of it."

Pretty much ...

Let that be a lesson to his surviving homeeez ....

12 posted on 01/09/2012 7:01:29 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: marktwain
It's like shooting a dog down

Only if that dog is committing a robbery.

13 posted on 01/09/2012 7:04:03 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: marktwain

I feel I must defend dogs here. Had this dead perp been minimally as good as a dog this whole tragic incident would never have happened.


14 posted on 01/09/2012 7:04:34 AM PST by Leep
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To: marktwain

The old “He was turning his life around.” trick. I’ve read it and heard it so many times it hardly registers anymore.


15 posted on 01/09/2012 7:06:52 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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"Why would you beat a person with pool sticks when he's already laying on the floor dead?"

Maybe because pool sticks were the only thing that was handy?

16 posted on 01/09/2012 7:07:34 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: marktwain
Witnesses told WAVY.com one of the patrons in the bar shot and killed Davis during the attempted robbery.

I bet the robber never tries that again.

17 posted on 01/09/2012 7:07:34 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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If you’ve noticed, it’s almost never the mother. It’s always the grandmother, and no mother or father ever even shows up in one of these stories.

That’s just for starters.

The response is somewhat stereotypical because the facts of these incidents have become stereotypical.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 7:07:46 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: marktwain

And too many black leaders aligned themselves with the people that created the problem.


19 posted on 01/09/2012 7:11:16 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: marktwain

I will accept the “real denial” portion of the mother’s response...

Everything else is a product of an entitlement mentality demographic that breeds this type of behavior, nurtures it, condones and publicizes it in song and editorial from the liberal side of the activity...

He also made this choice on his own...He did not ask his momma for permission to rob that facility...

All that hogwash about getting beaten after he was shot with pool cues is just that hogwash...Or we’d see those patrons up against the wall assuming the position...


20 posted on 01/09/2012 7:11:18 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Her son lost his expectations of life and liberty when he put on a ski mask and threatened the lives and liberty of his victims. HE was NOT the victim. He was a perpetrator.

But if a mother in grief wants to think he was a misunderstood angel who fluttered into the wrong crowd, far be it from me to take her opiate away.

21 posted on 01/09/2012 7:11:24 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: Scotsman will be Free

How about “got mixed up with the wrong crowd”?

Notice the perp in question never IS “the wrong crowd”.


22 posted on 01/09/2012 7:12:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Maverick68

My first thought as well.


23 posted on 01/09/2012 7:12:38 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: marktwain

”Why would you beat a person with pool sticks when he’s already laying on the floor dead?”

I agree. That is really bad for pool cues. A good one can set you back $30 or more. Hopefully they were just using those cheap generic pine ones.


24 posted on 01/09/2012 7:14:04 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: MrB

LOL! True, and a good point.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 7:14:37 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: marktwain
"The man went outside and came back in with his gun and shot him down," said Davis. "It's like shooting a dog down."

So far, I'm not seeing a problem.

26 posted on 01/09/2012 7:14:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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Shelia Davis is asking police to investigate the circumstances of the shooting and what happened after her grandson fell to the floor.

He died...................

27 posted on 01/09/2012 7:18:42 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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her grandson got mixed up with the wrong crowd

How come nobody ever admits to *being* the wrong crowd.

28 posted on 01/09/2012 7:21:29 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Vigilanteman

No barrel of axe handles sitting around like in the old days.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 7:23:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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"It appears the person interviewed is his grandmother, not the mother"

I'm not surprised that NO FATHER is mentioned.....75%+ of blacks have no "fathers". Isn't that special?

Usually, it's an "ONT" (aka, Aunt) that comes forward for black yewts.

With the mentality/culture/dependence foisted on blacks by "Progressives", ie, live in public housing, don't ever get a job, live on your EBT's, have more babies by unknown fathers and increase the payments to you, open a daycare, for all the black un-identified-father kids, and get even MORE money, etc.

What a culture.

30 posted on 01/09/2012 7:24:53 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: marktwain
Being treated like he can do no wrong was probably what got him killed Gramma.

31 posted on 01/09/2012 7:28:31 AM PST by MaxMax
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"Why would you beat a person with pool sticks when he's already laying on the floor dead?"

My guess is that he accidentally moved some of the balls on the table, and there was money on the game.

32 posted on 01/09/2012 7:28:57 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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They should dig up Lyndon Johnson and beat him with pool sticks too. In the final calculation of a just world, he was an accessory to this crime.
33 posted on 01/09/2012 7:33:07 AM PST by Gritty (There was never a war on poverty. It was a war on poor people to keep them in poverty.-Peter Bella)
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To: Maverick68

being judgemental here,
If he really was turning it around he would not have been involved in an armed robbery.
As for the folks smacking him with pool cues after getting shot I can’t blame them. They were afraid and mad and he did it.


34 posted on 01/09/2012 7:33:52 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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"The respons has become stereotypical on freerepublic. "

Blah! Blah! Blah!

From the article you posted:

"Davis says her grandson got mixed up with the wrong crowd." {As if the family of every other thug in that crowd could not say the same thing.}

"Davis says her grandson was in the process of turning his life around." {As if that process could ever include armed robbery.}

When someone writes and someone else posts such stereotypical lies as exculpatory, they have no right to expect any better.
35 posted on 01/09/2012 7:35:26 AM PST by drpix
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"Davis says her grandson was in the process of turning his life around."

Classic. Of course he was.

36 posted on 01/09/2012 7:35:32 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

Granny’s response is stereotypical. He was a good boy who just fell in with the wrong crowd, trying to turn his life around, blah blah blah. Any one of us could have written her script.

Yes, granny, every good boy walks into a bar armed and masked during an attempted hold up.

She claims she’s not trying to make excuses, the entire time making excuses. And in the meanwhile has no doubt met with a lawyer to see if the shooter or bar owner has any financial culpability.

This story line is old and trite. I may despise the “Great Society,” but in the nearly half century since it was brought into being, there have been not only horrific consequences in the ‘hood, but also thousands of young black men who walked the straight line, did the right thing, and worked their way out of it despite the odds. It does become a matter of personal choice.


37 posted on 01/09/2012 7:36:10 AM PST by EDINVA
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CLARIFICATION:

When someone writes and someone else posts an article with such stereotypical...

38 posted on 01/09/2012 7:42:59 AM PST by drpix
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“Davis says her grandson was in the process of turning his life around.”

Can you say detached from reality?


39 posted on 01/09/2012 7:43:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: marktwain
What LBJ and the Democrats have done, intentionaly or not, to the black family, has created horrific consequences

They also did it in Johannesburg? Rio? Haiti? Sudan? Nigeria? England? Jamaica? Soweto?

40 posted on 01/09/2012 7:46:44 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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"Shelia Davis is asking police to investigate the circumstances of the shooting and what happened after her grandson fell to the floor. "They beat him with pool sticks," said Davis. "

Your boy thought he was a tough guy, and played a hard game, in a very tough gin joint, and he lost.
Got family in Chesapeake. They have an inordinate fondness for magnum revolvers, and an exceedingly low tolerance threshold for criminal mischief. Brigands would do well to ply their trade elsewhere.
41 posted on 01/09/2012 7:48:16 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: marktwain
The loss of a child is devastating.
The loss of a child due to some lesson not passed on to a child is a failure of a parent.
42 posted on 01/09/2012 7:48:19 AM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: marktwain

Here is yet another case of that no-paragraph format. What is up with that? It’s an online epidemic!


43 posted on 01/09/2012 7:52:06 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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Here is yet another case of that no-paragraph format. What is up with that? It’s an online epidemic!


44 posted on 01/09/2012 7:52:21 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Maverick68

he turned it around ,alright.


45 posted on 01/09/2012 7:52:21 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: EDINVA
Yes, granny, every good boy walks into a bar armed and masked during an attempted hold up.

She forgot to add that he needed just one more score to pay off his pusher and get him out of his life.

46 posted on 01/09/2012 7:55:49 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: marktwain
"I'm not trying to sweet-coat nothing," said Davis. "He went in there to rob the place, but eventually he got killed is the result of it."

He went looking for trouble, and he found it.
47 posted on 01/09/2012 7:57:10 AM PST by fallujah-nuker (Pat Buchanan, kryptonite to RINO's)
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To: drpix

When someone writes, someone else posts, and another person comments on such a post containing an article with such stereotypical exculpatory lies...
See, you are part of the problem.


48 posted on 01/09/2012 8:01:25 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: traditional1

Definition of chaos is Father’s Day in Harlem.


49 posted on 01/09/2012 8:03:40 AM PST by monocle
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To: marktwain

The visible grief his family bears and shows is part of the mechanism by which the criminal element is informed of the consequences of their actions. Increasing that grief amplifies the message. Raise a thug who dies in a failed hold-up attempt and the public will laugh at you. It’s a tough world.


50 posted on 01/09/2012 8:12:03 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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