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A Fine for Not Using a Biofuel That Doesn’t Exist
New York Times ^ | Jan 9, 2012 | Matthew L Wald

Posted on 01/10/2012 8:49:41 AM PST by epithermal

WASHINGTON — When the companies that supply motor fuel close the books on 2011, they will pay about $6.8 million in penalties to the Treasury because they failed to mix a special type of biofuel into their gasoline and diesel as required by law.

But there was none to be had. Outside a handful of laboratories and workshops, the ingredient, cellulosic biofuel, does not exist.

In 2012, the oil companies expect to pay even higher penalties for failing to blend in the fuel, which is made from wood chips or the inedible parts of plants like corncobs. Refiners were required to blend 6.6 million gallons into gasoline and diesel in 2011 and face a quota of 8.65 million gallons this year.

“It belies logic,” Charles T. Drevna, the president of the National Petrochemicals and Refiners Association, said of the 2011 quota. And raising the quota for 2012 when there is no production makes even less sense, he said.

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Green logic = lunacy
1 posted on 01/10/2012 8:49:45 AM PST by epithermal
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To: epithermal

Kinda like having to use unobtanium in your tank..........................


2 posted on 01/10/2012 8:57:29 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: epithermal
"“It belies logic,” Charles T. Drevna, the president of the National Petrochemicals and Refiners Association, said of the 2011 quota. And raising the quota for 2012 when there is no production makes even less sense, he said."

Herein lies the problem.

American patriots are looking for solidarity and leadership against this rebellious government

So here's a guy, "leader" of unknown (hundreds of ?) thousands, well, WELL financed ... and in the end, they will hire lawyers and pay the money.

No wonder America is tanking

3 posted on 01/10/2012 8:58:49 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Red Badger

unicorn farts and rainbows will power our green revolution.

algore told me so.


4 posted on 01/10/2012 9:04:39 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: epithermal

Does anybody wonder any more why the White House had an “Alice In Wonderland” party...?


5 posted on 01/10/2012 9:07:04 AM PST by Gritty (When you replace "law" with "regulation," equality before it is one of the first casualties-Mk Steyn)
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To: epithermal

Obviously, congress needs to make a law to force these companies to follow the law.


6 posted on 01/10/2012 9:08:21 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: epithermal

Strange the NYT would report this at all, but... Why now? The Wall Street Journal discussed this in depth about a month ago.


7 posted on 01/10/2012 9:08:25 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: epithermal

Strange the NYT would report this at all, but... Why now? The Wall Street Journal discussed this in depth about a month ago.


8 posted on 01/10/2012 9:08:34 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: epithermal

No, what they are doing is perfectly logical. It just seems insane because until you remember that their motives are evil. If you want to crush our economy and put more companies out of business, mandating fines for something they can’t possibly comply with is absolutely logical.


9 posted on 01/10/2012 9:09:37 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: epithermal
Simple solution: Tell the government you DID use the required biofuel.

Make them prove you didn't.

10 posted on 01/10/2012 9:10:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: epithermal

This is just a disguised tax. A way to raise taxes without looking like you are raising taxes.


11 posted on 01/10/2012 9:11:57 AM PST by circlecity
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To: epithermal
When you have idiots in Washington running the Country what do we expect. Brains, they have none. We are in real decline and nothing will stop it except a total overhaul. Only Newt is capable and knows how to do it.
12 posted on 01/10/2012 9:13:17 AM PST by Logical me
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To: epithermal

What belies logic about it? They want the money, they found a way to confiscate it, pretty cut and dry.


13 posted on 01/10/2012 9:13:46 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Red Badger
[Kinda like having to use unobtanium in your tank.......................... ]

Gotta mine that stuff offworld.

14 posted on 01/10/2012 9:14:06 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Lazamataz

That’s a good idea, Laz.


15 posted on 01/10/2012 9:14:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: epithermal

So, which of “Our” candidates has stated they will work to repeal this crap?
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Yea, that’s what I expected, too cowardly to state the obvious for fear of offending the “Green” fools, but still determined to claim they are the reformers we need!


16 posted on 01/10/2012 9:21:22 AM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: epithermal
Tell the gov’t to shove the fines.

Any law that is impossible to comply with is unenforceable.

Take the clowns to court and sue them for stupidity.

17 posted on 01/10/2012 9:31:22 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: epithermal

This is classic Ayn Rand.


18 posted on 01/10/2012 9:31:55 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: Loyal Sedition

The ethanol industry is targeting Texas governor and Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry in the run-up to the Iowa caucuses for arguing government should not subsidize ethanol production or mandate a market share for ethanol. Despite the attacks, Perry is holding firm in arguing government should not be picking winners and losers in the energy marketplace.

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/10/28/iowa-ethanol-group-losing-patience-with-rick-perry/


19 posted on 01/10/2012 9:31:55 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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“Outside a handful of laboratories and workshops, the ingredient, cellulosic biofuel, does not exist. “

And what kind of damage will this garbage do to the equipment out there when it does become available?


20 posted on 01/10/2012 9:34:26 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: epithermal

Don’t pay the fine and file a federal lawsuit. Dare the fedgov to shut them down. The time has come to take the fedgov to the woodshed, much like the stupid EPA lawsuit about a citizen wanting to build on his property, but the EPA claiming it COULD be a wetland. Sue them into oblivion. Of course, that will only give the Executive branch more reason to hire more lawyers and other bureaucrats.


21 posted on 01/10/2012 9:34:30 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Lazamataz

“Simple solution: Tell the government you DID use the required biofuel. Make them prove you didn’t.”

I would think that would be pretty easy to prove. Like I said above, just ignore the fedgov and/or file a lawsuit.


22 posted on 01/10/2012 9:37:09 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: epithermal

It’s a fedgov rule.
Logic is optional.


23 posted on 01/10/2012 9:43:26 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: A Navy Vet
I would think that would be pretty easy to prove.

Not really! Make up an imaginary company that sold this imaginary product to you. When they go to find the company, tell them they JUST went out of business, SO sorry!

24 posted on 01/10/2012 9:44:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (Every single decision Obama makes is to harm America.)
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To: steelyourfaith

ping


25 posted on 01/10/2012 9:51:21 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Logical me

” When you have idiots in Washington running the Country what do we expect. “

When you have idiots who elect criminals to go to Washington to line their own pockets and ruin the Country what do we expect.

Fixed it for ya - no charge... ;)


26 posted on 01/10/2012 10:08:19 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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27 posted on 01/10/2012 10:31:54 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Fractal Trader; ApplegateRanch; Berlin_Freeper; SolitaryMan; golux; SteamShovel; Bockscar; ...
Washington DC - the highest concentration of idiots per square mile in America.

Thanx for the ping Fractal Trader !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

28 posted on 01/10/2012 10:59:25 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
unicorn farts and rainbows

Merle Haggard said it this way, Free BubbleUp and Rainbow Stew

29 posted on 01/10/2012 1:07:11 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: G Larry
Take the clowns to court and sue them for stupidity.

The only ones to make money in these situations are the lawyers, and they will still have to comply with the law. We have for too long accepted that an idiot bureaucrat or Judge can make law, and Congress has been more than willing to let them.

The Nazi party had about 10% of the population and yet managed to kill 11 million of their own people. We let 541 Congressmen, 100 Senators, 1 President and 9 Supreme Court Justices control a population of 300,000,000, a large portion of which will soon be expendable under health care restructuring.

Will we stand silent as they decide who lives and who dies? We stand silent as they kill 390,000 unborn this year so I suspect we will.

30 posted on 01/10/2012 1:17:26 PM PST by itsahoot (You are no longer a person, you are a Unit when you need health care.)
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To: knarf
“It belies logic,” Charles T. Drevna, the president of the National Petrochemicals and Refiners Association, said of the 2011 quota. And raising the quota for 2012 when there is no production makes even less sense, he said.”

Why just the other day Charlie T. Drevna saw a business man walking down the street when a group of thugs attacked him, rifled thru his wallet,stole his money and watch, then kicked him in the face and said,” See you next year moron!”
Charlie said,”It belies logic.”. Then went about his business.

31 posted on 01/10/2012 1:29:02 PM PST by RavenLooneyToon
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To: A Navy Vet

The USDA is instrumental behind the push for cellulosic biofuels. Years ago in an effort to prove “relevance” and worthy of increased funding it began lobbying to be in the forefront of this effort.

Cellulosic ethanol programs in the USDA have had dramatic (taxpayer) funding increases, with NOTHING to show for them.

Its been a dirty little secret that the ability to convert cellulose to ethanol is light years from being economically feasible. No matter. New taxes are collected every year to keep the keep the money flowing.


32 posted on 01/10/2012 5:57:58 PM PST by rusty millet
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