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Tebow, a ‘horrible' quarterback ;He keeps paying for that pro-life ad
The Gazette ^ | January 09, 2012 5:35 PM | WAYNE LAUGESEN

Posted on 01/10/2012 12:23:08 PM PST by Red Steel

Tim Tebow, keep thanking Jesus for life and football. Leave it to The Gazette to thank all those embarrassing ne’er-do-wells who invested their reputations on a stupid bet that you would fail. They don’t like your faith, your lifestyle, your anti-abortion Super Bowl ad and they’d like to forget that you donate millions to help children.

Tebowed! A look at the QB's college and pro career

You have made them fools, throwing for a stunning 316 yards to beat the NFL’s top-ranked defense in a playoff game. Some are downright angry. Others should hide in their parents’ basements, in shame. Here is some of what they said:

• DJ Gallo, ESPN columnist, after Sunday’s playoff win over Pittsburgh: “Yet again, we were somehow all caught off guard by Tim Tebow... The image of your average Internet message-board troll is that of a weak, pasty basement dweller whose life is focused on getting people riled up in comments sections. Now imagine if such a troll was a muscled 6-foot-3, 236-pounder who decided to troll the entire country on national television every week? You’d have Tim Tebow. He started the season as the third-stringer, and everyone freaked out. Then he got a start and won, and everyone freaked out. Then in his second start, he played horribly and got crushed, and everyone freaked out. Then he went on a winning streak, and everyone freaked out. Then he went on a losing streak, and everyone freaked out. Then he won a playoff game, and everyone freaked out.”

• David Jacoby, on ESPN affiliate “Grantland,” Jan. 3, 2012: “Timothy Richard Tebow is an atrocious, dreadful, embarrassment of a quarterback, and Denver’s defense won games despite his performance. Either that or he has God on speed dial and is just messing with us.”

• Jordan Calfee, featured columnist, “Bleacher Report,” Dec. 21: “The Denver Broncos cannot compete with the likes of the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers come January...” “You can call him a winner and talk about his college resume and comebacks this season all you want. The fact of the matter is, Tim Tebow is a very poor passer. The folks at ESPN don’t criticize him because they are bullies, or because they are somehow anti-Christian...”

• Ryan Phillips, featured columnist, Bleacher Report, Jan. 5, 2012, on John Elway’s suggestion that Tebow “pull the trigger,” by throwing the ball more: “While I appreciate Elway’s confidence in his young signal-caller, that is terrible advice... If he is forced to be a pocket passer, there is no way he can beat a team on his own.”

• Rob Kelley, “The Pigskin Report,” Jan. 2, 2012, headline: “Tim Tebow is the worst quarterback ever to win division and reach NFL playoffs.” Samples from ensuing article: “Watching him (Tebow) play is akin to watching a peewee league game from a bunch of kids. The only difference is that peewee quarterbacks can actually throw a spiral from time to time...” “Tebow seems like a great kid who lives a clean life... But that does not mean that he is a viable starting NFL quarterback. He isn’t even close... trust me when I tell you that the Broncos are not going anywhere with Tebow under center... As much as I dislike Ben Roethlisberger and the Pittsburgh Steelers, I truly hope that they walk into Denver and absolutely annihilate the Broncos next Sunday afternoon. Tebow cannot throw the ball. Not downfield, or even across the middle for short gains.”

• Greg Couch, FoxSports.com, Nov. 3, 2011: “Tebow isn’t good enough now to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. The Broncos aren’t good enough to be a team in the NFL, either.”

• Ryan Alfieri, Bleacher Report, Jan. 8, 2012, a day before the Steelers game: “On Sunday night, the Denver Broncos’ magical season will come to an end, and they will have Tim Tebow to ‘thank’ for it... It was cute to watch the young guy squeak out wins and get his team in the playoffs, but the honeymoon is now over... Weaknesses tend to be exposed around playoff time, and few players are more flawed and vulnerable than Tebow. I don’t just expect Tebow to have a bad outing; I expect him to play himself out of the Broncos’ starting job.”

Mark Kiszla, Denver Post, Oct. 30, 2011: “So maybe we need a new definition for Tebowing. It’s a prayer for mercy. Please, in the name of heaven, bring us somebody who can actually play quarterback.”

ESPN analyst Merril Hoge, tweeting in August 2011: “It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow!!” He later tweeted: “You must possess a skill set to play!”

Tebow’s tweeted response: “ ’ppreciate that.”

Tebow-bashing is a sports-media obsession and examples are endless. No amount of success will end this. If Tebow someday wins consecutive Super Bowls and leads his profession, these hater-pundits will call it a fluke. We are embarrassed for them.

Wayne Laugesen, editorial page editor, for the editorial board. Friend Wayne on Facebook; follow him on Twitter.


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KEYWORDS: prolife; tebow; tebowhaters; timtebow
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1 posted on 01/10/2012 12:23:09 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I live in colorado Springs and the gazette is a complete piece of trash. they cant give it away and its slowly going out of business.


2 posted on 01/10/2012 12:27:33 PM PST by airplaneguy
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To: Red Steel

316 yards and John 3:16

Those pesky coincidences...


3 posted on 01/10/2012 12:28:31 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Red Steel

Kind of makes me think of quarterbacks like Billy Kilmer, Bobby Lane, Joe Capp and some others who were not great passers. They did nothing much but win. They were leaders who got the most out of their talent and than players around them.


4 posted on 01/10/2012 12:30:13 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: Red Steel
Interesting.

Most of the folks quoted in this article are on the fringes of the sports media. Heck, anyone can write for Bleacher Report.

Most of the "top shelf" pundits are behind Tebow--Dilfer, Deon Sanders, Michael Irvin, Berman, Eisen, etc. Even Hoge seems to be coming around. It was also nice to see Stephen A. Smith eat crow, although he still doubts if TT can become a consistent performer.

5 posted on 01/10/2012 12:32:39 PM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: Red Steel

To be honest, I don’t think all of the Tebow bashing is because he’s a Christian. I think a lot of the people are just sick of hearing about him (you can’t listen to ESPN for 10 minutes without hearing his name). AND, on some days, he’s awful, and looks like he has no idea how to throw the ball.

That being said, he can also be fantastic. He made some great throws in the Pittsburgh game, and quite frankly its fun to watch him. And it is nice watching a lot of loudmouth sportswriters chew on crow.


6 posted on 01/10/2012 12:32:52 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Red Steel
These people don't have a Tebow problem, since he has been a winner all his life, they have a Christianity problem. For some odd reason, Christians are now persecuted throughout the world, and this will only end badly for the Christian haters, once we decide to defend ourselves.
7 posted on 01/10/2012 12:34:11 PM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out, find a way further in.)
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To: Red Steel

In the case of Mr. D.J. Gallo, “ESPN columnist”, hiding in his mom’s basement for a while won’t do him any good.

He needs to find a different line of work. He is a TERRIBLE writer.


8 posted on 01/10/2012 12:34:14 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Red Steel
Pro athletes who batter their significant others, commit rape, get arrested for DUI, or drugs, or firing handguns in public places, or father multiple children from multiple women, or murder someone, or raise fighting dogs and then cruelly kill the injured ones, or commit assault during games . . . .

And then there is Tim Tebow - the most controversial NFL player ever! Wow, there really are no journalist left in the world.

9 posted on 01/10/2012 12:35:30 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Red Steel
...and yet as the starting quarterback for the Broncos he did, defying all expectations, get them to the playoffs.

...and yet, as starting quarterback for the Broncos, he did, defying all expectations, throw for 316 yards, including the 80 yard game winner, and did beat the best defense in pro-football, the Pittburg Steelers in overtime.

Whatever else happens, Tebow has proven his worth to the Denver Broncos.

10 posted on 01/10/2012 12:36:32 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GourmetDan

I believe that coincidence is God’s unseen hand moving in people’s lives.


11 posted on 01/10/2012 12:38:11 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Red Steel

Tebow should have shut these jokers up with his performance against Pittsburgh. His positive, hard-working, and cheerful attitude have produced a body which is strong and athletic and a mind which inspires his teammates. You can teach passing, but you can’t turn a Matt Leinart into a hulk like Tebow.


12 posted on 01/10/2012 12:38:45 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Red Steel

This same squad of geniuses all said that Drew Brees (while he was with the Chargers) lacked the skill set to be an NFL quarterback.

While watching the game on Sunday, I actually turned to Mrs. kevkrom at one point and said, “you know, except for the designed running plays, this guy reminds me a lot of Ben Rothlesburger during his rookie season”. There are a lot of difference, for sure, but both of them just carried this supreme confidence and drive despite a lack of pro experience or perfected skills, and more importantly, both were capable of extending plays long enough to find open receivers.


13 posted on 01/10/2012 12:38:45 PM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Red Steel

Great guy?

Absolutely.

Great winning streak?

Absolutely.

NFL level quarterback skills?

I still can’t see them.


14 posted on 01/10/2012 12:39:04 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: SoldierDad

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19707827

Field of dreams: Young Tebow fan from Loveland huddles with Broncos QB at playoff game


15 posted on 01/10/2012 12:39:22 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Red Steel

yet he plays on


16 posted on 01/10/2012 12:40:20 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: GourmetDan
316 yards and John 3:16 Those pesky coincidences...

that was NOTHING next to Praeter's opening kick hitting the crossbar and landing EXACTLY on the 20 yard line...

...

all with some freaky smoke "halo" over the stadium...


17 posted on 01/10/2012 12:40:57 PM PST by montag813
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To: Roy Baty
...this will only end badly for the Christian haters, once we decide to defend ourselves.

The Book of Revelations indicates that it will be handled by Someone Else.

18 posted on 01/10/2012 12:41:02 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: GourmetDan

Did you see the halo about Mile High? Look it up. Amazing. Not saying T is Jesus reincarnated but just to many signs that someone is looking out for Tim..Go Tim and God bless the Broncos..


19 posted on 01/10/2012 12:42:36 PM PST by crazydad
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To: InvisibleChurch

Tebow is the face of the company’s “staycool” underwear collection. Jockey spokesman Mo Moorman said Tuesday that the line is the fastest-selling collection in the company’s 135-year-old history.

http://ht.ly/8oBc5


20 posted on 01/10/2012 12:43:26 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Roy Baty

Some of the Tebow-bashing is because he is a Christian, but certainly not all. I don’t know if you’re a football fan... but on occasions he can be horrifically bad. Almost painful to watch. That’s the genesis for the bulk of criticism from sportswriters IMHO. They expect every NFL quarterback to fall in a specific mold, and will tear down anyone who plays the game differently.

But.... sometimes... he’s fantastic. Especially in the clutch. If the Broncos somehow manage to upend the Patriots, prepare for heads exploding like you’ve never seen.


21 posted on 01/10/2012 12:45:06 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: zeestephen

Yet there are a bunch of QB’s with NFL level skills who won’t be taking the field this weekend.


22 posted on 01/10/2012 12:45:54 PM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: Jukeman

Joe Kapp is a fighter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrkEROiQsa8


23 posted on 01/10/2012 12:46:49 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Red Steel

Never was much of a football fan. Guess I need to change and start supporting this guy.

People of faith need to stick together.


24 posted on 01/10/2012 12:47:26 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: GSWarrior
Interesting that you mention Trent Dilfer. I remember how, in the Super Bowl won by Baltimore, he lofted a beautiful pass, nicely leading his receiver, producing a touchdown. It looked a lot like the winning OT pass by Tebow. Yet Dilfer was considered "not good enough," and dumped by the Ravens after that achievement. I think Dilfer was a Christian too.

Some QBs come out of college and immediately master the pro game, like Dan Marino. Others, like John Elway, did not look that great in his early years.

25 posted on 01/10/2012 12:47:46 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Roy Baty

Christ and His people vs everything and everyone else.

Those are the only two sides in the grand scheme of things.

Now, I do think the pro-life ad was what engendered the most hatred, because it reminds people of their murderous tendencies. Those that are “pro-choice” know, deep down inside, that it’s killing a baby human, and they know it’s wrong, and they HATE any reminders of that.


26 posted on 01/10/2012 12:48:09 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Red Steel
"ESPN analyst Merril Hoge, tweeting in August 2011: “It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow!!” He later tweeted: “You must possess a skill set to play!”

LOL. Tebow already plays better than Hoge ever did. Hey Merrill, in 8 years how many playoff games did you win as starting QB?

27 posted on 01/10/2012 12:48:10 PM PST by circlecity
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To: zeestephen
NFL level quarterback skills? I still can’t see them.

Like a guy that consistently hits the 1,000 yd bull, but just isn't a very good shot, right?

TT might keep up this lucky streak for 10 years or so, but eventually he's certain to show everyone that he just doesn't have what it takes. They really ought to cut him right now, before more wins just confuse the issue. Because once he wins a few Super Bowls its going to be really tough to make a new transition to a 'real' NFL QB.

28 posted on 01/10/2012 12:49:24 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: GourmetDan; Red Steel
316 yards and John 3:16

Those pesky coincidences...

Plus he was 10 of 21 passing, so he had 31.6 yards per completion, and the TV rating was 31.6.

29 posted on 01/10/2012 12:49:55 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Red Steel

Leaving his religion aside, Tebow is clearly not a horrible QB. He is also not a pro-bowl caliber QB.

Yet.


30 posted on 01/10/2012 12:50:19 PM PST by Grunthor (At least he is better than Obama! Is NOT a rallying cry!)
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To: Red Steel

This is what happens to reporters when they accept the conventional wisdom instead of thinking for themselves. Tebow doesn’t suck, he’s just different. Tebow might not be the prototypical QB, but neither was Kenny Stabler, Doug Flutie, or Michael Vick. They all won, though.


31 posted on 01/10/2012 12:50:28 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: SoldierDad

Thank your son for me for his service. May God keep him free from harm. I have a nephew serving in the Navy based in Afganistan with Navy Seal support.
Regarding pro athletes committing criminal acts: I remember Michael Irvin as a Dallas Cowboy being involved with cocaine and associated bad behavior. Some Cowboy fans cared not what he did off the field as long as he performed well on the field. There is a different standard for Tebow. Some people will not applaud his ability to help his team win because he is a Christian on and off the field.


32 posted on 01/10/2012 12:51:16 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: montag813
"that was NOTHING next to Praeter's opening kick hitting the crossbar and landing EXACTLY on the 20 yard line..."

What is the biblical signifcance of a ball landing on the 20?

33 posted on 01/10/2012 12:53:28 PM PST by mlo
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To: Grunthor

Tebow, at this stage in his career, reminds me of Steve Young, who developed into a top-notch quarterback. Barring a serious injury, and finding the right system, Tebow has that potential.


34 posted on 01/10/2012 12:55:38 PM PST by magritte
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To: Red Steel
This past New Years eve my wife and I boarded the Amtrak train in Grand Junction, CO for Denver, CO. We've driven this route, back & forth, many times over the years on I-70 ... taking the train is a whole different experience. Anyway, we are seated with another couple in the dining car for lunch. Turns out this guy is a professor at a very well known mid-west university, a university that has turned out many NFL greats. This guy was everything you would expect of a college professor, he was a dweebie liberal in every sense. The conversation turned to football, as the reason for our train trip to Denver was to attend the Bronco/KC Chiefs game ... this guy went off on Tebow big time. Thought it was all hype ... told him he should check with players he claimed to know (from his school) currently playing with the Broncos. They would, without doubt, confirm Tebow's sincerity.
In fairness to this individual he said he would keep an open mind ... he just wasn't buying the hype.
35 posted on 01/10/2012 12:56:09 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: SampleMan
And He is our best--and ONLY--Defense!

But--sure gotta love Tebow "leading the offense" (and often NOT intentionally!) down here on this "playing field".

36 posted on 01/10/2012 12:56:41 PM PST by milagro
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To: magritte

Interesting article by a sports writer who finally caves in and declares, “It’s Tebow Time”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers-tim-tebow-20120110,0,2685821.column?page=1&utm_medium=twitter&track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&dlvrit=104530


37 posted on 01/10/2012 12:57:33 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Red Steel

I have not heard so much talk about a white Bronco since the OJ trial....


38 posted on 01/10/2012 12:57:56 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: brownsfan

LOL. You’re right. I thought Joe spelled his last name Capp. Yeah, he may be better with a cane than he was with a football.


39 posted on 01/10/2012 12:58:15 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: magritte

Very interesting observation.


40 posted on 01/10/2012 1:00:24 PM PST by day10 (Integrity has no need of rules.)
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To: Jeff Head

Am I wrong? Did it not take Elway several season to get the Broncos to the playoffs?


41 posted on 01/10/2012 1:00:57 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: mlo

I don’t think it’s biblical. But one has to wonder if there was some type of disturbance in the space-time continuum.


42 posted on 01/10/2012 1:01:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: montag813

Beat me by two post..


43 posted on 01/10/2012 1:05:18 PM PST by crazydad
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To: Jeff Head

Once he gets in rythem with his receivers as he did at Florida. Look out folks. Time is on his side. Each day makes him better.


44 posted on 01/10/2012 1:07:26 PM PST by papageo
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To: Jukeman

In his day, Joe Kapp was at one time the highest paid player in the NFL...plus, he was hilarious in “The Longest Yard”...


45 posted on 01/10/2012 1:08:09 PM PST by magritte
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To: Red Steel

Religion aside Tebow is clearly a winner. He brings a positive attitude and can do spirit that filters down to the entire team. THAT’S what a quarterback is supposed to be.


46 posted on 01/10/2012 1:08:52 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Paleo Conservative

I have written here before about the movie “Oh God Book 2” with George Burns and the little girl who he talks to as god. She is tasked with getting people to realize god is real and she gets nothing but grief. And in the end she gets the last laugh as the DRs who are trying to put her away as being delusional are proven wrong by God. I feel the same way with Tim. In the end the Haters will be the ones that are wrong. Go Tebow and Go Broncos..


47 posted on 01/10/2012 1:09:32 PM PST by crazydad
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To: zeestephen
NFL level quarterback skills?

I don't think you can definitely judge a first year starting QB one way or the other. But you didn't see any skills in the playoff game? He made some genuinely nice passes. It remains to be seen whether that will continute, but some great quarterbacks started off pretty poorly. Heck, Elway had 7 TDs and 14 picks, with a 47% completion % his first year. He turned out to be a good quarteback, despite that.

48 posted on 01/10/2012 1:10:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Red Steel

John Elway first season:
47.5 % completion rate
7 TD
14 INT
54% QB rating


49 posted on 01/10/2012 1:11:01 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: Jukeman
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. End of discussion.
50 posted on 01/10/2012 1:11:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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