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Saudis worry over North American shale oil surge
financialpost.com ^ | 14-21-11 | Yadullah Hussain

Posted on 01/11/2012 10:05:38 AM PST by bayouranger

While the green movement naively harbours hopes it will be able to shut down unconventional oil and gas development, in Saudi Arabia they are already contemplating a time when North American fossil fuel will replace their oil.

Looking past the din of protesters, state-owned oil giant Saudi Aramco is resigned to the fact that its influence will wane because of the massive unconventional fossil-fuel development underway in North America. As such, Saudi Arabia has no plans to raise its production output to 15 million barrels per day from 12 million, said Khalid Al-Falih, the powerful chief executive of Aramco.

“There is a new emphasis in the industry on unconventional liquids, and shale gas technologies are also being applied to shale oil,” Al-Falih, president and CEO of Saudi Aramco, warned a domestic audience in a speech in Riyadh Monday.

“Some are even talking about an era of ‘energy independence’ for the Americas, based on the immense conventional and unconventional hydrocarbon resources located there. While that might be stretching the point, it is clear that the abundance of resources and the more ‘balanced’ geographical distribution of unconventionals have reduced the much-hyped concerns over ‘energy security’, which once served as the undercurrent driving energy policies and dominated the global energy debate.”

Aramco is the powerful state entity that manages the Kingdom’s nine-million-barrel-plus oil output. Saudi Arabia has long dominated oil markets by leveraging its spare oil capacity and, as the OPEC kingpin, striking a delicate balance between the interests of oil consumers and the exporter group.

But the oil chief’s remarks reveal Saudi fears that the market dynamics are changing and its dominance over energy markets is under threat by new unconventional finds.

OPEC estimated in a recent report that global reserves of tight oil could be as high as 300 billion barrels, above Saudi Arabia’s conventional reserves of 260-billion barrels, which are currrently seen as the second-largest in the world after Venezuela.

Global output of non-conventional oil is set to rise 3.4 million bpd by 2015, still dominated by oil sands, to 5.8 million bpd by 2025 and to 8.4 million bpd by 2035 when tight oil would be playing a much bigger role. By 2035, the United States and Canada will still be dominating unconventional oil production with 6.6 million bpd, the group forecasts.

Last year, even as the world consumed nearly 30 billion barrels of oil, not only was the industry able to replace this production but global petroleum reserves actually increased by nearly seven billion barrels, as companies increasingly turned toward higher risk areas, Al-Falih noted.

Clearly, the Kingdom is preparing for new market realities as the discussion on energy has changed from scarcity to abundance, particularly due to the new finds that can be produced ‘feasibly and economically.’

In the past, Saudi Arabia, along with its OPEC allies, could drive prices down by opening the taps to ensure unconventional fossil fuels remained firmly buried in the ground. But most analysts now expect oil prices to remain high, at least over the medium term, thanks to tight supplies and continued demand from emerging markets. That’s great news for Canadian oil sands developers, which need prices around US$60 to US$70 per barrel, to make their business models economically feasible.

Saudi Arabia’s own break-even oil price has also risen sharply in the past few years, making it less likely to pursue a strategy of lower prices. The Institute of International Finance estimates that Saudi Arabia’s break-even price has shot up US$20 over the past year to US$88, in part due to a generous spending package of US$130-billion announced this year to keep domestic unrest at bay.

The Saudis now find themselves between a shale rock and a hard place: While high crude prices mean the Saudis can maintain their excessive domestic subsidies for citizens, in the long run that means the world is developing new sources, making it less dependent on Saudi oil.

Although the Saudis have vigorously fought the Ethical Oil ads, which paint them in a negative light, they already know their oil is less welcome in the Americas — Saudi oil made up a mere 9.3% of U.S. oil imports last year, down from 11.2% five years ago, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.

But while Saudis would be cheering on the green groups with ‘No KXL’ signs, they don’t hold out much hope for renewable energies either. Calling them ‘green bubbles,’ Al-Falih says governments should stop focusing on unproven and expensive energy mix, as there is frankly no appetite for massive investments in expensive, ill-thought-out energy policies and pet projects.

“The confluence of four new realities — increasing supplies of oil and gas, the failure of alternatives to gain traction, the inability of economies to foot the bill for expensive energy agendas, and shifting environmental priorities — have turned the terms of the global energy dialogue upside down. Therefore, we must recast our discussion in light of actual conditions rather than wishful thinking,” the pragmatic chief said.

Somebody should explain this wishful thinking to the green movement.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; bhoislamism; drillheredrillnow; energy; energyjihad; envirofascism; filthykoranimals; gasprices; islam; obama; oil; oilsands; opec; saudioil; saudis
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To: bayouranger
The question is NOT whether Saudi oil money gets back to those elected officials in DC, the question is how fungible their oil money is to those elected officials in DC.
22 posted on 01/11/2012 10:47:28 AM PST by drypowder
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To: bayouranger
LPG Direct Injection....

It stays a liquid until it is the cylinder. Change of state from a liquid to gas, drop in temperature. So you can dial up the Turbo-boost or Compression Ratio. I think their are 3 Euro Conversion firms already for Direct Injection...

So many win wins with this fuel in this configuration.


23 posted on 01/11/2012 10:47:36 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: rhombus

ignorant,well-meaning soccer moms and rich Hollyweirdos,too.


24 posted on 01/11/2012 10:47:54 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: bayouranger
"...and I promise to stop all new drilling in the US and I
promise to slow down shale oil production, so help me Allah"


25 posted on 01/11/2012 10:49:25 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: thackney

Energy/Oil Ping


26 posted on 01/11/2012 10:52:29 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: meatloaf

good idea.

start with government fleet vehicles and if it’s successful there, expand from there.

I , for one, don’t want to be mandated to convert my vehicle.


27 posted on 01/11/2012 10:59:58 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: meatloaf
What we really need to do is start converting autos to run on natural gas.

You're exactly right. I lived in Japan in the late 1990's when they started doing exactly that with buses and taxicabs. It is a little expensive up front, but ever since the Japanese pay less for a liter of gasoline than most of their European counterparts. They produce maybe 2% of their crude oil needs domestically, roughly 1/10th of what they are able to do in Europe.

All it takes is a political will to do so. We could start by funding the U.S. Postal Service fleet into natural gas conversion, then let them sell their NG fueling supplies to the public. Employ some of the surplus postal workers as NG station attendants, then spin off the NG retail facilities and privatize. That's the quickest way I see to get bipartisan support.

You could start by turning some of the surplus post offices slated for closure into NG refueling stations. Initially, they would serve only postal vehicles, then public transportation and finally the public.

28 posted on 01/11/2012 11:03:16 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pallis

Much? Wahhabism and Salafism are terrorist philosophies.


29 posted on 01/11/2012 11:11:11 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Vigilanteman
ever since the Japanese pay less for a liter of gasoline than most of their European counterparts

They don't pay much different any more.

http://www.iea.org/stats/surveys/mps.pdf
(Price per litre, November 2011)

Japan: 143 Yen ~ 1.47 Euro

France: 1.488
Germany: 1.505
Italy: 1.588
Spain: 1.299
UK: 1.338
Japan pays less percentage as tax. But in today's high prices for the base product, they are around the same as Europe.

30 posted on 01/11/2012 11:33:49 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: EdReform


31 posted on 01/11/2012 11:36:44 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Vigilanteman

An LNG refueling station takes up a bit more space than the vacuums at car washes. For home use you can buy a unit that hangs on a wall.


32 posted on 01/11/2012 11:36:47 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

You mean CNG, not LNG.

CNG needs just a compressor.

LNG requires a refrigeration unit to drop the temperature down to -260°F and a system to keep it there while it sets in the tank or continuously use/vent it.


33 posted on 01/11/2012 11:40:28 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: bayouranger

The Saudis are Worried,

GOOD!


34 posted on 01/11/2012 11:40:39 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Vigilanteman

Fleet service, like buses, UPS and garbage trucks have been using Natural Gas for a while. Not everywhere, but it continuous to grow.

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/progs/fleet_exp_fuel.php/NG


35 posted on 01/11/2012 11:42:57 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Will Texas ever see the levels of the 80s again?


36 posted on 01/11/2012 11:52:49 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes... we certainly do.

LLS


37 posted on 01/11/2012 11:53:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ( MOOchelle obama is PISSED OFF that people say that she is an angry woman!)
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To: bayouranger

Good... Let ‘em worry!


38 posted on 01/11/2012 11:59:21 AM PST by folkquest (Nothing is fool-proof because fools are so ingenious!)
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To: rhombus

I figure they get a lot of indirect funding from states and entities with a vested interest in keeping the US from doing anything adversarial to their interests, such as oil exploration.


39 posted on 01/11/2012 11:59:47 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: drypowder

Sleeping with the devil
~Robert Baer


40 posted on 01/11/2012 12:05:45 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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