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New Hampshire Democratic Primary: Ron Paul comes in second!
The Nation ^

Posted on 01/12/2012 11:26:28 AM PST by TIElniff

Almost one in five New Hampshire Democratic primary voters cast their ballots Tuesday for someone other than Barack Obama.

The president still won the primary with a handsome majority: 81.9 percent of the vote.

But the fact that more than 18 percent of New Hampshire voters who took Democratic primary ballots chose to write in the name of another candidate—anti-war Republican Ron Paul was the second-place finisher in the primary with 2,273 write-ins—or to vote for one of the little-known contenders whose names were on the ballot with Obama’s begs a question: What if a prominent progressive had mounted a primary challenge to the president?

(Excerpt) Read more at thenation.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barakobama; democraticparty; nhprimary; ronpaul; spotthelooney
Bet you won't hear much about this in the mainstream media!
1 posted on 01/12/2012 11:26:38 AM PST by TIElniff
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To: TIElniff

Woo hoo!! Run, Paul, run!!


2 posted on 01/12/2012 11:33:25 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Answer: Woo hoo!! Run, Paul, run!!

Question: What do you say to Ron Paul when the mob comes up his driveway with torches and pitchforks?
3 posted on 01/12/2012 11:40:32 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: Jim Robinson
Isn't ‘prominent progressive’ an oxymoron?
4 posted on 01/12/2012 11:46:03 AM PST by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: TIElniff

Folks, it is time for the Democrat Party to march into Obama’s office and tell him to resign or decline to run this year for POTUS!!! The handwriting is on the wall for Obama will not be re-elected and......he will take down the majority of the Democrat Party with him!!!


5 posted on 01/12/2012 11:46:25 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: righttackle44

LOL


6 posted on 01/12/2012 11:46:55 AM PST by annieokie
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To: TIElniff

Paul 2nd, Romney 3rd and Huntsman 4th

http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/DemSummaryPres.htm


7 posted on 01/12/2012 11:47:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
The people NOT voting for Obama are the 2008 'independents' who forgot to change back to 'undeclared' after voting four years ago. So they show up Tuesday, only to find out they are still registered as Democrats. Since they were stuck with a Democrat ballot; they wrote in Paul and Huntsman. Unfortunately; votes are tabulated SEPARATELY by party...in other words, Paul's vote do NOT get added together...LOLOL!

Idiots.

8 posted on 01/12/2012 11:54:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: TIElniff
I can't wait for the Paulitards to explain this one away...

Well he is the only one who understands the Constitution since he wrote it and gave it to the Founding Fathers. And he says it is ok...

9 posted on 01/12/2012 11:55:24 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Just wait until he gets his butt handed to him down south. He’ll eventually do an independent run thus re-electing Obama. And he won’t apologize for it either. With any luck he’ll kick from old age before it happens and save the country.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 11:57:50 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: Peter from Rutland

I am scared the SOB is going to live forever and do this crap every freaking election until he’s 100.

And he will still have idiot followers.

Hell with his supporters being either half democrat or totally nuts they will run him after he kicks the bucket...


11 posted on 01/12/2012 12:07:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: who knows what evil?

That’s an interesting point. From a statistical perspective, it didn’t change the results. Of the Democrats voting for Republicans, Romney received 1808 (31%), Paul 2273 (39%), Huntsman 1228 (21%), Gingrich 275 (5%), Santorum 300 (5%) and Perry 17 (<1%).

For those that want to use these results to prove who is or isn’t most Republican, Perry is the clear “winner.” For those looking for electability (crossover appeal) Paul wins, but Romney made a very strong showing.

Personally, I don’t think it shows anything since the election results for this group showed that Paul is a bit more popular than Romney among Democrat leaning independents. The rest fell close to where they were on the Republican side.


12 posted on 01/12/2012 12:12:35 PM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: ejonesie22

“I can’t wait for the Paulitards to explain this one away...”

What’s to be “explained away”? I see this as a “cloud the size of a man’s hand” portending greater things to come.


13 posted on 01/12/2012 12:22:59 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff

Ok, that is interesting. In what way?


14 posted on 01/12/2012 12:28:29 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: TIElniff

Really? Huntsman must be deeply disappointed.


15 posted on 01/12/2012 12:30:30 PM PST by McGruff (Ron Paul. Your 15 mins. are about up.)
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To: ejonesie22

“Ok, that is interesting. In what way?”

Well, first of all, we don’t know for sure who these “Democrats” were who voted for the Republicans. One previous poster suggested that they were independents who had forgotten to change their registration, and so voted for their favorites by writing in their votes. That may be.

But what if it’s not? Maybe they are just Democrats who are fed up with Obama or like Ron Paul’s anti-war stance.

But who’s to know for sure? Obama should find it unsettling that 20 percent of his own party voted for someone other than him. It will be interesting to see whether similar results are achieved in South Carolina and in Florida.


16 posted on 01/12/2012 12:40:25 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff
But the fact that more than 18 percent of New Hampshire voters who took Democratic primary ballots

Paul - D Texas...RonPaul is a looney as the DEMONMARXISTS

17 posted on 01/12/2012 12:51:28 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: TIElniff
Ok. But that means squat for us in the general, and risks giving us Paul to run against Obama.

Really, do we need that. Does Paul really need anymore attention?

18 posted on 01/12/2012 1:09:07 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

I Kings 18:44: “Then it came to pass the seventh time, that he said, “There is a cloud, as small as a man’s hand, rising out of the sea!”

“So he said, “Go up, say to Ahab, ‘Prepare your chariot and go down before the rain stops you.’”

“Now it happened in the meantime that the sky became black with clouds and wind, and there was a heavy rain.”

My point is that Ron Paul doesn’t need any more attention, as if it were ours to give him, but that he is going to get it whether we want him to get it or not. His is an idea whose time has come. When the paradigm begins to shift, it becomes self-sustaining. I think Obama has so frightened this nation that the countervailing forces are setting in, and that explains more than anything else the growth of Ron Paul’s influence and following. There is going to be a heavy rain, and there is nothing that is going to stop it, if not this election, then the next, if not Elijah (Ron Paul), then Elisha (his successor).


19 posted on 01/12/2012 1:54:14 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff

Elijah (Ron Paul)

Wow...

Not sure what to even say on that one...

20 posted on 01/12/2012 2:36:24 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Elijah (Ron Paul)

Wow...

Not sure what to even say on that one...

Just a figurative way of making the point, not a spiritual or theological assertion! No, I don’t believe that Ron Paul is Elijah!


21 posted on 01/12/2012 2:46:31 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff

If you want to insewrt Ron Paul into your fictional arrangement, you would have to take George Soros as Elijah and Ron Paul as Elisha. Stop while you’re not too far exposed, dude.


22 posted on 01/12/2012 2:51:15 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: TIElniff

No?


23 posted on 01/12/2012 2:51:15 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TIElniff

Okey Dokey...


24 posted on 01/12/2012 2:52:13 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: TIElniff

You are insane. I can say because I have a psych degree.


25 posted on 01/12/2012 3:08:39 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: ejonesie22

I have said it before and I will say it again.
Ron Paul knows the Constitution in the same way Fred Phelps knows the Bible.


26 posted on 01/12/2012 3:12:10 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: TIElniff

are you serious???

No, Really, are you SERIOUS???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAH


27 posted on 01/12/2012 3:12:43 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: svcw; TIElniff; ejonesie22; RaceBannon; All

With all due respect..I don’t think it requires a psych degree to spot that kind of crazy.


28 posted on 01/12/2012 3:15:56 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: svcw

was it you I got my tagline from? I forgot


29 posted on 01/12/2012 3:21:06 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Probably/maybe, however I borrowed (about two weeks ago) it from a friend and am now using (in various forms to fit the situation) when ever I can.
It is a perfect description of Paul.


30 posted on 01/12/2012 3:24:34 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw

“You are insane. I can say because I have a psych degree.”

Congratulations on your psych degree. So, I throw myself down on your couch. Please explain your psychological analysis, doctor.

I only have a minor in English literature, but I do understand the nature of literary allusion,metaphor, and simile, and hope that you will take them into consideration in making your analysis.


31 posted on 01/12/2012 3:27:24 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff

I’ll throw the couch down here myself.

If you go through this and STILL support Ron paul..YOU ARE CRAZY!

Ron Paul supports legal dope and prostitution
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/05/06/Ron_Paul_on_Prostitution_Gay_

Marriage/
Starts half way in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mz9pDGHBTo&feature=related

Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/nevada-prostitutes-endorse-ron-paul/

White supremecist David Duke endorses Ron Paul;
http://patdollard.com/2011/12/former-kkk-grand-wizard-david-duke-says-he

%E2%80%99s-voting-for-ron-paul/

Ron Paul refuses to disavow STORMFRONT associations
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/45537/ron-paul-refuses-to-disavow-stormfront-

other-anti-semitic-racist-groups-openly-campaigning-for-him/

Ron Paul SUPPORTS NAMBLA
http://videosift.com/video/Does-Ron-Paul-Support-NAMBLA-Well-yes-and-no
http://www.dailypaul.com/70100/age-of-consent?page=1

Why do the Ron Paul guys support gay marriage?
http://www.queerty.com/ron-paul-on-gay-marriage-20071210/

the 2008 RONULAN economic advisor to Ron paul saying that libertarians need to

infiltrate the GOP
Libertarians need to infiltrate the GOP

VIDEO of Schiff saying just that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncLTFoTFa8

An organization called Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth video taped an inpromtu

appearance with Ron Paul and recorded some of his comments. They can be found

here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/05/19/trutheriness-and-ron-paul/

While Ron Paul has said on TV shows such as Glen Beck that he dismisses the

major theories, he openly says there is a coverup of what went on yet refuses to

elaborate on just what is covered up. The 9/11 Comission clearly showed that

intelligence failures happened because of Clinton era laws that prevented our

inteligence agancies from communicating with each other.

On the website CONSPIRACY PLANET, information about Ron Paul and issues similar

to this can be found:
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=90

Ron Paul has publically said that the CIA has accomplished a coup against

America and needs to be taken out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM

A direct quote from this conference is as such:
(January 20, 2010) House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a

“coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken

out.”

Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty

regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said:

“There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs

everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing

missiles and bombs on countries...”

Additional video proof of him saying this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SZKLvEOp9c

And here is one prominant website that supports the 9/11 conspiracy theories,

calling for a RON PAUL PROVISIONAL ARMY to take over after we investigate the

9/11 events:
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/

Among the other kooky connections to Ron Paul, is a UFO COnnection. I have yet

to find the original article, but numerous articles repeat the belief of Ron

Paul’s that UFO’s are real. Some of the Ron Paul sites have soeone trying to

mock this belief, but the Ron Paul site, DailyPaul.com says this:
http://dailypaul.com/node/125999

This has been repeated again in San Francisco, not known to support

conservatives or Libertarians anyways, but associated with Ron Paul out there

were UFO enthusiasts mentioned in this article:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2007/08/ron_pauls_ufo_sighter_friends.php

How is it that the kookiest ideas are surrounding Ron Paul?
Ron Paul, UFO disclosure, etc... simply nothing more than a pacifier — a

distraction!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462483/pg1

Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/rep-paul-codepink-camp-israel-aid-

opposition/

Ron Paul and his acolytes are following George Soros on the defense of our nation, and connections between the two have been proved
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/

Tehran TV LOVES Ron Paul!

http://www.aim.org/special-report/tehran-tv-loves-ron-paul/

Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition

Glenn Beck exposes Ron Paul’s ties to Soros. Does it shock you, or does it do much to explain why Ron Paul is friendly with “Bawney” Frank and almost as bad as Obama is when it comes to illegal aliens and Islam? Listen to video please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM

Dennis Prager point sout Ron Paul’s lunacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qqHAoXRVk4g

Ron Paul says he is against the NDAA bill, so why didn’t he VOTE AGAINST it??
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/ron-paul-supporters-claim-he-opposes-the-ndaa-so-why-didnt-he-vote-on-it/


32 posted on 01/12/2012 3:35:12 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

“are you serious???
No, Really, are you SERIOUS???”

Please see my response (no. 31 below) to the guy with the psych degree.

Which part of what I have written do you think is “unserious,” given the use of literary devices? (A serious response will get you a serious answer.)


33 posted on 01/12/2012 3:36:00 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff

Several GOP canidates got writes ins in the Democratic balloting......
Huntsman got 1228
Romney got 1808

Obama got 283 write ins in the GOP balloting process.

Click the following for results:

Democratic: http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/DemSummaryPres.htm

Republican: http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/RepSummaryPres.htm


34 posted on 01/12/2012 3:37:20 PM PST by deport
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To: TIElniff

One of the greatest things about a psych degree is you don’t have to anything, just guild the couchee to their own conclusions.
(Ok seriously, my psych degree is in industrial psych. You know that degree where we do what we can to make the employee think they are loved and valued by the company whether they are or not.)
You should try over on the allusion, metaphor, and simile dealy, the one you used was a huge fail.


35 posted on 01/12/2012 3:40:17 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: RaceBannon; carenot

Do you mind Race if I ping carenot to this post?


36 posted on 01/12/2012 3:46:33 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: TIElniff

Bump!


37 posted on 01/12/2012 4:18:18 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: TIElniff; ejonesie22; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
I think Obama has so frightened this nation that the countervailing forces are setting in, and that explains more than anything else the growth of Ron Paul’s influence and following. There is going to be a heavy rain, and there is nothing that is going to stop it, if not this election, then the next, if not Elijah (Ron Paul), then Elisha (his successor).

If EVER there was a post to prove that Ron Paul and his followers/minions were all batsh!t crazy, THIS is the post!

It's deranged lunatics like Nazis, Islamofascists and communists that start comparing their leaders to Biblical prophets.

38 posted on 01/12/2012 4:19:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TIElniff

typical trained RONULAN response, ignore the fact, repeat the manta as trained to do in your RONULAN seminar on disrupting threads


39 posted on 01/12/2012 7:04:02 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Race:

This is pretty good stuff. I read/watched/listened to it all, and made notes. I’m going to go through your list and add my comments in bold italics, for your consideration. (I’m hoping my word processor copy will import into Free Republic!)

All-in-all, I thought most of the stuff was positive for Ron Paul, not negative. It made me wonder if you really read the stuff yourself.

Someone once said that “All is yellow to the jaundiced eye.” I think people only see what they want to see, not what is really there, or what the fine distinctions are. The benefit of reading slowly and carefully is that of picking up nuances of meaning and condition. It helps wonderfully in making judgments.

To work!

_______________________________________________________________________

If you go through this and STILL support Ron paul..YOU ARE CRAZY!

Ron Paul supports legal dope and prostitution
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/05/06/Ron_Paul_on_Prostitution_Gay_

I got an HTTP 404: The resource cannot be found.

Marriage/
Starts half way in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mz9pDGHBTo&feature=related

There was nothing about marriage in this clip. It was, in fact, a very positive Ron Paul commercial.

Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul
Http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/nevada-prostitutes-endorse-ron-paul/

So what? There was no reason given while the Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul. I’ll bet that prostitutes have the same concerns as everybody else about inflation and the value of the dollars that get stuffed in their panties (or worse!). The soundness of the economy and the money supply is of concern to everyone, prostitutes and pimps included. True, the prostitutes didn’t say that, but they didn’t say anything else either, especially whether Ron Paul was a favorite client.

White supremecist David Duke endorses Ron Paul;
http://patdollard.com/2011/12/former-kkk-grand-wizard-david-duke-says-he
%E2%80%99s-voting-for-ron-paul/

David Duke said that he favored Ron Paul because he (Paul) was opposed to the use of government power in banking, the media, in government influence, in campaign finance.
Now Duke attributed that abuse of power to Jews. But Ron Paul opposes that abuse of power to anyone. Those two differing views of things may overlap, but they are not identical.

Ron Paul refuses to disavow STORMFRONT associations
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/45537/ron-paul-refuses-to-disavow-stormfront-
other-anti-semitic-racist-groups-openly-campaigning-for-him/

It is true that Ron Paul doesn’t disavow or denounce the StormFront associations, but neither does he endorse them. The article even indicates that Ron Paul said that he “would not be happy with” their positions. And the author notes that their views “have not exactly been warmly received.” Again, the presence of overlapping views does not equal identity of views.

And further: The anti-semetic groups favor Ron Paul because he is opposed to the Federal Reserve Board. They like that because they consider that the Fed is run by Jews. Ron Paul opposes the Fed for economic reasons, not racial or religious reasons. He would oppose the Fed even if it were run by Episcopalians, Catholics, Baptists, or Presbyterians, or Germans, Englishmen, Chinese, or Africans.

Ron Paul SUPPORTS NAMBLA
http://videosift.com/video/Does-Ron-Paul-Support-NAMBLA-Well-yes-and-no
http://www.dailypaul.com/70100/age-of-consent?page=1

This video was marked “private.” (Probably with good reason.)

Why do the Ron Paul guys support gay marriage?
Http://www.queerty.com/ron-paul-on-gay-marriage-20071210/

Ron Paul’s position on this issue is that the Federal Government should have no jurisdiction or standing on this issue. If any institution has standing to rule, it should be the States. And marriage should be left up to the churches, not to the state (government). It does not indicate moral approval of gay marriage to observe that the matter is beyond the scope of state power.

Question for you: Why is approval of gay marriage bad when Ron Paul approves it, but is good when Barak Obama (or some other liberal) approves it?

the 2008 RONULAN economic advisor to Ron paul saying that libertarians need to
infiltrate the GOP. Libertarians need to infiltrate the GOP. VIDEO of Schiff saying just that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncLTFoTFa8

What’s wrong with that? Do you remember Barry Goldwater at the 1960 Republican Convention telling conservatives: “Conservatives, let’s grow up and take over this party!” Schiff, in this video, is suggesting a strategy for the Libertarian Party: Let’s turn the Republican Party into the Libertarian Party by pressing our issues there. Nothing wrong with that unless one is so wedded to the traditional Republican Party that its fuzziness on the issues is considered sacrosanct.

An organization called Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth video taped an inpromtu
appearance with Ron Paul and recorded some of his comments. They can be found
Here: http://michellemalkin.com/2007/05/19/trutheriness-and-ron-paul/

First: Loaded words and terms are always a distraction and not worthy of an accomplished journalist. She needs to edit out a good number of loaded adjectives.

Second: The imbedded video has been removed by the user, whoever that is.

Third: It appears from the written description that Ron Paul was carefully hedging his comments and trying not to commit himself to their (the Student Scholars) conspiracy view, and then his comments were distorted by the Student Scholars.

But even I would like to ee an investigation of 9/11 as a coverup of something. I’d also like to see an official report on Building No. 7. I understand that one has never been produced.

While Ron Paul has said on TV shows such as Glen Beck that he dismisses the
major theories, he openly says there is a coverup of what went on yet refuses to
elaborate on just what is covered up. The 9/11 Comission clearly showed that
intelligence failures happened because of Clinton era laws that prevented our
intelligence agencies from communicating with each other.

On the website CONSPIRACY PLANET, information about Ron Paul and issues similar
to this can be found: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=90

Ron Paul asserts that “there is a definite connection” between the intelligence failures and the events of 9/11, and that his views of the issue has been misconstrued. This video was a replay of an interview with Bob Schieffer on “Face the Nation” where Schieffer brought up all the controversial questions that have been generated by Ron Paul. I thought he gave acceptable and rational answers to the questions, and I especially interested in Schieffer’s response to each: “Let me move on. . . .” That’s typical of the liberal press: They never respond to a good argument; they just “move on.”

And even the headline writer noticed it: The headline was “Ron Paul Bitch Slaps Media Whore Bob Schieffer.”

Ron Paul has publically said that the CIA has accomplished a coup against
America and needs to be taken out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM

A direct quote from this conference is as such:
(January 20, 2010) House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a
“coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken
out.”

Ron Paul asserts that the CIA runs the military, is like a government unto themselves, and are even engaged in the drug trade. I can’t speak to those charges, but I do know that he is not the only one who is concerned about the excessive-influence of the CIA in international and military affairs. To be concerned and to express such concerns is not irresponsible. His reminder that sacrificing liberty for security in the short run usually means losing both in the longer run is very much in order.

Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty
regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said:
“There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs
everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing
missiles and bombs on countries...”
Additional video proof of him saying this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SZKLvEOp9c

See the comment immediately above.

And here is one prominant website that supports the 9/11 conspiracy theories,
calling for a RON PAUL PROVISIONAL ARMY to take over after we investigate the
9/11 events:
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/

Did you even read this website? It does not appear to be irresponsible babbling, but a care consideration of the alternatives to the official report.

Among the other kooky connections to Ron Paul, is a UFO COnnection. I have yet
to find the original article, but numerous articles repeat the belief of Ron
Paul’s that UFO’s are real. Some of the Ron Paul sites have soeone trying to
mock this belief, but the Ron Paul site, DailyPaul.com says this:
http://dailypaul.com/node/125999

Apparently the British government does believe that there is something going on there.
But the links do not work.

This has been repeated again in San Francisco, not known to support

conservatives or Libertarians anyways, but associated with Ron Paul out there
were UFO enthusiasts mentioned in this article:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2007/08/ron_pauls_ufo_sighter_friends.php

So what? Maybe the UFO kooks are like the Nevada prostitutes: they, too, would like sound money and a stable economy. Just because kooks and whores like Ron Paul doesn’t tell us why they like him. It may have nothing to do with UFOs and prostitution; it have something to do with economics and freedom.

How is it that the kookiest ideas are surrounding Ron Paul?
Ron Paul, UFO disclosure, etc... simply nothing more than a pacifier — a
distraction!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462483/pg1

Here’s the telling quote from the article: “The global powers that be will be damned if they are not going to place their pieces exactly how they want to . . . .” That Ron Paul’s real offense, the one that over-shadows everything else: he threatens the established and vested interests.

Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition

This is a case of who is moving toward whom? The telling quote: “ The anti-war group is getting closer to his views. That’s one thing, but he’s certainly not looking to them for policy information.” Ron Paul’s views are issue specific. Other may agree with him whereas he may not agree with them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/rep-paul-codepink-camp-israel-aid-
opposition/

Page not found.

Ron Paul and his acolytes are following George Soros on the defense of our nation, and connections between the two have been proved
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/

Ron Paul will join anyone who shares his position. Francis Schaeffer, Christian theologian and apologist, used to speak of the cooperation between Catholics and Protestants on the issue of abortion that they were “co-belligerents, not allies.” That seems to me to be a good description of Ron Paul in relation to all these other groups that are considered to be negatives and embarrassments.

Qiestion for you: Why is it OK for Soros to fund all kinds of liberal groups and activists, but not OK for him to be funding conservative groups and activists, or for conservative groups and activists to take advantage of the organizations he has funded?

Tehran TV LOVES Ron Paul!
http://www.aim.org/special-report/tehran-tv-loves-ron-paul/

So? Maybe that’s a good sign. That Ron Paul will be able to negotiate and cooperate with the Iranians, turning them from enemies into friends. Free trade and non-intervention in internal affairs may enhance the chances of peaceful relations. Nations, said Frederic Bastiat, must either trade or fight.

Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition

This is a duplicate of an item above. See the answer there.

Glenn Beck exposes Ron Paul’s ties to Soros. Does it shock you, or does it do much to explain why Ron Paul is friendly with “Bawney” Frank and almost as bad as Obama is when it comes to illegal aliens and Islam? Listen to video please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM

Same answer as the question above. It appears that Soros gave money to everybody and every cause he favored. It should not surprise us that there will be overlap in interests. That there is overlap does not indicate agreement except in those areas where the interests overlap.

Dennis Prager points out Ron Paul’s lunacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qqHAoXRVk4g

The relevant quote from this piece: “I don’t understand, but I will still comment. . . .” Need I say more? And you guys think the “Paultards” are hateful? This guy is not doing your cause any good.

Prager says that Ron Paul is lying when he talks about the statistics of black / white incarcerations and capital punishment. The actual statistics are mentioned in the comment section under Prager’s vituperative speech: Whites make up 64 percent of the population and 48 percent of the capital executions. Blacks make up 12 percent of the population but 41 percent of the capital executions. I can’t vouch for these statistics, but there they were, in the footnotes.

Ron Paul says he is against the NDAA bill, so why didn’t he VOTE AGAINST it??
Http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/ron-paul-supporters-claim-he-opposes-the-ndaa-so-why-didnt-he-vote-on-it/

Yeah, I don’t understand that myself. I would have thought that he would want to be on the record against the NDAA bill. But I do note that it wouldn’t have made any difference (except for the record). The vote was 283 for, 136 against, and 14 not voting.


Well, Race, that’s it. I’ll be interested in your responses. But, please, no ad hominem arguments. It doesn’t further the debate to just keep yelling “You’re Crazy.” I promised you serious answers if you would ask serious questions. I think you did, and I tried to. If I failed, then I’ll try again. If I got it wrong, I’ll try to get it right. But unsupported assertions don’t help.

And another question you need to consider: Is there any amount of evidence or rational argument that will change your mind about Ron Paul? If not there is not much use in further discussion. “The open mind,” said Whittaker Chambers, “is always closed on one end.”


40 posted on 01/12/2012 10:25:59 PM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff

I think it is horribly sad, and quite indicative of the lack of morals in our nation, that a fairly intelligent person such as yourself, can be so immoral as to call this information a positive thing for anyone

By the way, here is the google link which you either are deliberately ignoring or aren’t so smart to search for yourself
http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=toolbar-instant&hl=en&ion=1&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4RNTN_enUS381US381#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4RNTN_enUS381US381&site=webhp&source=hp&q=ron%20paul%20prostitution&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&fp=9705fe8106a73ef6&ion=1&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=9705fe8106a73ef6&ion=1&biw=1326&bih=577


41 posted on 01/13/2012 4:33:40 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: TIElniff
It is not a closed primary, in which votes can be cast in a party primary only by people registered with that party. Undeclared voters — those not registered with any party — can vote in either party primary.

And Romney beats Paul.

Why am I so unimpressed?(don't answer - it's rhetorical)

42 posted on 01/13/2012 4:38:18 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for the link. I agree with you that I’m not smart enough to search it out for myself.

In fact, how did you do that? or, how do you do that?

As to the content of the linked article, I think I’ve already addressed the issues involved, even though I didn’t read the actual article. If not, let me know.


43 posted on 01/13/2012 6:02:20 AM PST by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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