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Ron Paul picks up major evangelical endorsement heading into South Carolina
Greely Gazette ^ | 1-13-2012 | Jack Minor

Posted on 01/13/2012 6:25:26 PM PST by jmc813

Ron Paul picked up a major endorsement from an evangelical leader when Dr. James Linzey, president and founder of the Military Bible Association, endorsed the candidate.

Lizney, who served as a military chaplain for over 24 years and retired with an honorable discharge, has hosted Operation Freedom, a television program in Europe. Before founding the Military bible Association, he travelled the world as an evangelist.

In a statement to Congressman Paul declaring his endorsement, Lizney said, “Having thoroughly examined your political philosophy and finding that your platform is 100% in line with the Constitution of the United States of America, and examining your political record to find that you have consistently upheld the Constitution and thereby faithfully represented your constituency, and studying your statement of faith to find that your faith and religious experience is 100% compatible with Evangelical Christianity and Orthodox Christianity, I hereby endorse you for the Office of the President of the United States of America. I wish you Godspeed!"

He went on to say that while Texas governor, Rick Perry, was also an evangelical, the deciding factor for his endorsement was fidelity to the Constitution. “The tell-tale sign of being qualified for the presidency is not faith, but loyalty to the Constitution which defends the open expression of faith. Ron Paul seems to be the candidate most loyal to the Constitution according to the records.”

The endorsement could be a crucial one for Paul going into the South Carolina primary.

Some in the Christian community have taken issue with Paul's refusal to commit to reinstating the military’s ban on homosexuals serving openly.

Lizney says if evangelicals truly want ot make faith an issue in the campaign they should consider Paul’s personal testimony on his website where Paul says, “Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate."

Lizney said while he would support Romney if he eventually wins the nomination, he believes Paul is the better candidate because, while Romney may be an excellent debater, Paul argues from the standpoint of the Constitution.


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To: jpsb
So that is “all but” an endorsement?
51 posted on 01/13/2012 8:09:26 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Scoutmaster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loA-LQ-uPQU


52 posted on 01/13/2012 8:11:49 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: ejonesie22

Catch Hanity on the rerun, Demint is on at the very end. Then you tell me.


53 posted on 01/13/2012 8:11:49 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Fester Chugabrew

@Fester: You LOL at the Stormfront support and have written that Paul: “He’s consistently voted against, and spoken against, growing government, moreso than any representative in government I’ve ever seen or heard about in my lifetime.”

What’s the deal with his legislative record of trying to increase the power of the IRS and the department of education?

From Paul’s website: “A co-sponsor is a Member of Congress who joins with the sponsor in originally introducing the legislation, or officially supporting it after the measure has been formally introduced to the Congress.”

Resolutions co sponsored by Ron Paul

107th congress -

. H.CON.RES.263 : Expressing the sense of Congress that any Presidential candidate should be permitted to participate in debates among candidates if at least 5 percent of respondents in national public opinion polls of all eligible voters support the candidate’s election for President or if a majority of respondents in such polls support the candidate’s participation in such debates. Sponsor: Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] (introduced 11/6/2001) Cosponsors (2) (NOTE: Ron wouldn’t be allowed in the debates if he’d gotten his way on this one.........)

H.RES.233 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico. Cosponsors (5) Latest Major Action: 9/5/2001

H.J.RES.35 : Disapproving the rule of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration relating to ergonomics.
Sponsor: Rep Northup, Anne M. [KY-3] (introduced 3/7/2001) Cosponsors (32)

H.R.41 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to permanently extend the research credit and to increase the rates of the alternative incremental credit.
Sponsor: Rep Johnson, Nancy L. [CT-6] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (119)

30. H.R.84 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide tax incentives for education. Sponsor: Rep English, Phil [PA-21] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (1)

36. H.R.147 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude certain severance payment amounts from income.
Sponsor: Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (29)

H.R.154 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase to 100 percent the amount of the deduction for the health insurance costs of self-employed individuals.
Sponsor: Rep Pomeroy, Earl [ND] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (72)

H.R.168 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow individuals an exclusion from gross income for certain amounts of capital gains distributions from regulated investment companies. Sponsor: Rep Saxton, Jim [NJ-3] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (69)

H.R.189 : To repeal the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.
Sponsor: Rep Stump, Bob [AZ-3] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (22)

50. H.R.249 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to permit private educational institutions to maintain qualified tuition programs and to provide that distributions from such programs which are used to pay educational expenses shall not be includible in gross income. Sponsor: Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] (introduced 1/30/2001) Cosponsors (1)

61. H.R.342 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make higher education more affordable by providing a full tax deduction for higher education expenses and interest on student loans. Sponsor: Rep Ford, Harold E., Jr . [TN-9] (introduced 1/31/2001) Cosponsors (3)

H.R.415 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage new school construction through the creation of a new class of bond. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-46] (introduced 2/6/2001) Cosponsors (23)

: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for a nonrefundable tax credit against income tax for individuals who purchase a residential safe storage device for the safe storage of firearms. ( edging on the 2nd amendment!)
Sponsor: Rep Hilleary, Van [TN-4] (introduced 2/7/2001) Cosponsors (25)

H.R.516 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide tax relief to elementary and secondary school teachers.
Sponsor: Rep Pryce, Deborah [OH-15] (introduced 2/7/2001) Cosponsors (74)

H.R.538 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide tax incentives for education.
Sponsor: Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] (introduced 2/8/2001) Cosponsors (23)

H.R.539 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to expand the child tax credit.
Sponsor: Rep Hayworth, J. D. [AZ-6] (introduced 2/8/2001) Cosponsors (46)

H.R.636 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to permit private educational institutions to maintain qualified tuition programs which are comparable to qualified State tuition programs, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep English, Phil [PA-21] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (1)

H.R.637 : To amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to eliminate the funding limitation applicable to grants for special alternative instructional programs under subpart 1 of part A of title VII of such Act.
Sponsor: Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-1] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (7)

92. H.R.648 : To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to exempt licensed funeral directors and licensed embalmers from the minimum wage and overtime compensation requirements of that Act. Sponso r: Rep Graham, Lindsey [SC-3] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (15) (A little ‘funeral home’ payola, there?)

H.R.678 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase the amount of the student loan interest deduction and to allow more taxpayers to claim that deduction.
Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (40)

H.R.686 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 60-month limitation period on the allowance of a deduction of interest on loans for higher education expenses. Sponsor: Rep Mink, Patsy T. [HI-2] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (58)

H.R.704 : To permit the States in the Pacific time zone to temporarily adjust the standard time in response to the energy crisis.
Sponsor: Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-24] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (22)

108th congress

6. H.RES.12 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the United States Postal Service should issue a postage stamp commemorating Juan Nepomuceno Seguin.
( WHO?) : Rep Green, Gene [TX-29] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (8)

H.RES.208 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the systematic human rights violations in Cuba committed by the Castro regime and calling for the immediate removal of Cuba from the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. Sponsor: Rep Foley, Mark [FL-16] (introduced 4/30/2003) Cosponsors (24)(He wouldn’t vote for the same for Iran!)

H.RES.315 : Congratulating Rafael Palmeiro of the Texas Rangers for hitting 500 major league home runs and thanking him for being a role model for the Cuban American community, as well as for all Americans.
Sponsor: Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] (introduced 7/9/2003) Cosponsors (14)

H.RES.350 : Congratulating Lance Armstrong for winning the 2003 Tour de France.
Sponsor: Rep Davis, Tom [VA-11] (introduced 9/3/2003) Cosponsors (41)

H.RES.400 : Honoring the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s ascension to the papacy.
Sponsor: Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] (introduced 10/16/2003) Cosponsors (31)

H.RES.586 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that an Aviation Maintenance Technician Day should be established in recognition of Charles Edward Taylor’s invaluable contributions to aviation.
Sponsor: Rep Frost, Martin [TX-24] (introduced 3/30/2004) Cosponsors (7)

H.J.RES.20 : To repeal the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002. Sponsor: Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] (introduced 2/5/2003) Cosponsors (37)
Committees: House International Relations

36. H.R.120 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against income tax for contributions for scholarships to attend elementary and secondary schools, for upgrading elementary and secondary school facilities, and for expenses related to technology for elementary and secondary schools.
Sponsor: Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (14)

H.R.198 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a deduction for amounts paid for health insurance and prescription drug costs of individuals. Sponsor: Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (12)

H.R.217 : To ensure that a Federal employee who takes leave without pay in order to perform service as a member of the uniformed services or member of the National Guard shall continue to receive pay in an amount which, when taken together with the pay and allowances such individual is receiving for such service, will be no less than the basic pay such individual would then be receiving if no interruption in employment had occurred. Sponsor: Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (97) (Only federal employees deserve this bonus????)

49. H.R.282 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit for contributions for the benefit of elementary and secondary schools. Sponsor: Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] (introduced 1/8/2003) Cosponsors (24)

H.R.294 : To amend title 38, United States Code, to improve the automobile assistance program for disabled veterans. Sponsor: Rep Kelly, Sue W. [NY-19] (introduced 1/8/2003) Cosponsors (11)

H.R.314 : To amend the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act to exempt mortgage servicers from certain requirements of the Act with respect to federally related mortgage loans secured by a first lien, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] (introduced 1/8/2003) Cosponsors (8)

H.R.336 : To repeal the sunset of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 with respect to the expansion of the adoption credit and adoption assistance programs. Sponsor: Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] (introduced 1/27/2003) Cosponsors (9)

71. H.R.494 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a full deduction for meals and lodging in connection with medical care. Sponsor: Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] (introduced 1/29/2003) Cosponsors (2)

H.R.574 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to treat gold, silver, and platinum, in either coin or bar form, in the same manner as stocks and bonds for purposes of the maximum capital gains rate for individuals.
Sponsor: Rep Hayworth, J. D. [AZ-5] (introduced 2/5/2003) Cosponsors (10)

H.R.645 : To amend title 36, United States Code, to designate the square dance as the national folk dance. Sponsor: Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] (introduced 2/5/2003) Cosponsors (29) ( Is that in the commerce clause? LOL!)

H.R.714 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to expand S corporation eligibility for banks, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep McInnis, Scott [CO-3] (introduced 2/12/2003) Cosponsors (37)

H.R.731 : To render all enrolled members of the Tohono O’odham Nation citizens of the United States as of the date of their enrollment and to recognize the valid membership credential of the Tohono O’odham Nation as the legal equivalent of a certificate of citizenship or a State-issued birth certificate for all Federal purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] (introduced 2/12/2003) Cosponsors (119)

H.R.740 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage new school construction through the creation of a new class of bond. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-47] (introduced 2/12/2003) Cosponsors (17)

100. H.R.741 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow the deduction for health insurance costs of self-employed individuals to be allowed in computing self-employment taxes. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-47] (introduced 2/12/2003) Cosponsors (12)

109th

3. H.CON.RES.42 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued to promote public awareness of Down syndrome. ( I’m sure that’s in the constitution!) Sponsor: Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] (introduced 2/1/2005) Cosponsors (56) Committees: House Government Reform

4. H.CON.RES.45 : Recognizing the benefits and importance of school-based music education, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Cooper, Jim [TN-5] (intro 2/2/2005) Cosponsors (32)

H.CON.RES.160 : Recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth Independence Day, and expressing the sense of Congress that history should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and solving the challenges of the future. Sponsor: Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] (introduced 5/19/2005) Cosponsors (69) (You gotta be kidding me....)

H.CON.RES.206 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that the President should temporarily suspend restrictions on remittances, gift parcels, and family travel to Cuba to allow Cuban-Americans to assist their relatives in Cuba in the aftermath of Hurricane Dennis.
Sponsor: Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] (introduced 7/12/2005) Cosponsors (70)

H.CON.RES.355 : Recognizing the benefits and importance of school-based music education, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Cooper, Jim [TN-5] (intro3/9/2006) Cosponsors (29)

H.CON.RES.465 : Expressing the sense of the Congress regarding the need for additional research into the chronic neurological condition hydrocephalus, and for other purposes. (special illnesses?)
Sponsor: Rep Thompson, Mike [CA-1] (introduced 7/28/2006) Cosponsors (27)

18. H.RES.79 : Recognizing the public service of Archbishop Patrick Flores.
Sponsor: Rep Gonzalez, Charles A. [TX-20] (introduced 2/9/2005) Cosponsors (53)

H.RES.730 : Recognizing the efforts and contributions of The Women’s Museum: An Institute for the Future.
Sponsor: Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] (introduced 3/16/2006) Cosponsors (16)

H.RES.760 : Supporting the goals and ideals of National Clean Beaches Week and recognizing the considerable value of American beaches and their role in American culture.
Sponsor: Rep Pallone, Frank, Jr. [NJ-6] (introduced 4/4/2006) Cosponsors (59)

H.RES.1049 : Recognizing Ann Richards’ extraordinary contributions to Texas and American public life and offering condolences on her passing. (Fan of Ann Richards????)
Sponsor: Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] (introduced 9/27/2006) Cosponsors (12)

H.J.RES.55 : Requiring the President to develop and implement a plan for the withdrawal of United States Armed Forces from Iraq, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] (introduced 6/16/2005) Cosponsors (69)

H.R.154 : To authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security to make grants to reimburse State and local governments and Indian tribes for certain costs relating to the mobilization of Reserves who are first responder personnel of such governments or tribes.
Sponsor: Rep Menendez, Robert [NJ-13] (introduced 1/4/2005) Cosponsors (7)

H.R.442 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to change the deadline for income tax returns for calendar year taxpayers from the 15th of April to the first Monday in November.
Sponsor: Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] (introduced 2/1/2005) Cosponsors (18)

82. H.R.577 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a credit to businesses whose employees teach at community colleges. Sponsor: Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] (introduced 2/2/2005) Cosponsors (35)

90. H.R.652 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against income tax for taxpayers owning certain commercial power takeoff vehicles.
Sponsor: Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] (introduced 2/8/2005) Cosponsors (56)

H.R.713 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a credit to certain agriculture-related businesses for the cost of protecting certain chemicals.
Sponsor: Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] (introduced 2/9/2005) Cosponsors (35)

H.R.717 : To amend title 38, United States Code, to expand the scope of programs of education for which accelerated payments of educational assistance under the Montgomery GI Bill may be used, and for other purposes.( That’ll cut the costs! LOL)
Sponsor: Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] (introduced 2/9/2005) Cosponsors (11)

99. H.R.727 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow the deduction for health insurance costs of self-employed individuals to be allowed in computing self-employment taxes. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-47] (introduced 2/9/2005) Cosponsors (2)

110th

H.CON.RES.125 : Recognizing the health benefits of eating seafood as part of a balanced diet, and supporting the goals and ideals of National Seafood Month. (Remember all that earmarked Shrimp ‘pork’ from Paul?)
Sponsor: Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] (introduced 4/23/2007) Cosponsors (29)

H.RES.186 : Supporting the goals and ideals of National Clean Beaches Week and recognizing the considerable value of American beaches and their role in American culture.
Sponsor: Rep Pallone, Frank, Jr. [NJ-6] (introduced 2/16/2007) Cosponsors (86)

46. H.R.60 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make permanent the deduction of State and local general sales taxes.
Sponsor: Rep Baird, Brian [WA-3] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (59)

H.R.77 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to change the deadline for income tax returns for calendar year taxpayers from the 15th of April to the first Monday in November. ( This is important?) Spon: Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] (intro 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (8)

49. H.R.87 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to improve and expand education savings accounts. Sponsor: Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (27)

51. H.R.139 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit for the purchase of idling reduction systems for diesel-powered on-highways vehicles. ( Lots of amending going on to something he wants to do away with)
Sponsor: Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] (introduced 1/4/2007) Cosponsors (8)

58. H.R.318 : To amend the Impact Aid program under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to improve the distribution of school construction payments to better meet the needs of military and Indian land school districts.
Sponsor: Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] (introduced 1/5/2007) Cosponsors (7)
Committees: House Education and Labor

63. H.R.381 : To amend title II of the Higher Education Act of 1965 to increase teacher familiarity with the educational needs of gifted and talented students, and for other purposes. ( More special classes of citizens??)
Sponsor: Rep Gillmor, Paul E. [OH-5] (introduced 1/10/2007) Cosponsors (9)

66. H.R.437 : To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 500 West Eisenhower Street in Rio Grande City, Texas, as the “Lino Perez, Jr. Post Office”. (Who? The Hispanic caucus wants it, so it must be okay!)
Sponsor: Rep Cuellar, Henry [TX-28] (introduced 1/12/2007) Cosponsors (31)

69. H.R.460 : To amend the Controlled Substances Act and the Controlled Substances Import and Export Act to eliminate certain mandatory minimum penalties relating to crack cocaine offenses. Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/12/2007) Cosponsors (20) (Whatever!)

73. H.R.538 : To provide for the health care needs of veterans in far South Texas.
Sponsor: Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] (introduced 1/17/2007) Cosponsors (14) (How about the rest of the veterans?)

75. H.R.549 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase, extend, and make permanent the above-the-line deduction for certain expenses of elementary and secondary school teachers. Sponsor: Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] (introduced 1/18/2007) Cosponsors (126) (Special taxing for certain groups? Yeah, THAT is constitutional...)

H.R.577 : To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 3903 South Congress Avenue in Austin, Texas, as the “Sergeant Henry Ybarra III Post Office Building”.
Sponsor: Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] (introduced 1/19/2007) Cosponsors (31)

83. H.R.643 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for collegiate housing and infrastructure grants.
Sponsor: Rep Jones, Stephanie Tubbs [OH-11] (introduced 1/23/2007) Cosponsors (168)

84. H.R.654 : To allow travel between the United States and Cuba.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/24/2007) Cosponsors (119)

86. H.R.685 : To amend the Social Security Act to eliminate the 5-month waiting period for Social Security disability and the 24-month waiting period for Medicare benefits in the cases of individuals with disabling burn injuries.( Again, a special class of tax payer...)
Sponsor: Rep Neal, Richard E. [MA-2] (introduced 1/24/2007) Cosponsors (22)

H.R.757 : To allow United States nationals and permanent residents to visit family members in Cuba, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] (introduced 1/31/2007) Cosponsors (28)


54 posted on 01/13/2012 8:14:32 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: jpsb

I cannot believe the RNC wants this scorched earth, but they have done everything in their power to prove just that.

Fine. We’ll deny you your Mittens AND take the Senate.

I can’t believe it’s come to this.


55 posted on 01/13/2012 8:22:48 PM PST by txhurl (EVERYONE is losing their virginity in this election. -Marty60)
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To: Scoutmaster

Is that all you can find? Looks like he had an axe to grind WRT tax codes 1986. You forgot the meme: He has been totally ineffective. Remember? But, he’s a real threat now, with 320 Stormfronters on his side. LOL.


56 posted on 01/13/2012 8:27:19 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: VicVega
*laughing*

I've seen the video, Vic. I still know he's nuts. And at least twenty-two of the slices on the chart above comes from his newsletters - which is a problem, since Paul said on December 29 that there were only eight or ten bad sentences in all of his newsletters, ever. And there were more than eight or ten sentences on MLK, Jr. Not blacks. Or gays. Or Jews. Just on MLK.

Enjoy those slices, Vic. They ARE Ron Paul.

57 posted on 01/13/2012 8:29:28 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
Thanks Scout. Now if you would spend more time on the candidate you want everyone to support, maybe RP wouldn't be beating them.

It appears every time there is a negative piece on him, his poll numbers go up.

Weird!

58 posted on 01/13/2012 8:33:00 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew; VicVega

Keep laughing and look under your bed for Trilateralists, guys.


59 posted on 01/13/2012 8:36:57 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: jpsb
The video is posted:

DeMint previews Palmetto State primary

60 posted on 01/13/2012 8:37:45 PM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: txhurl

The GOP is using this village idiot as a live target for dems, libertarians, and other whack-offs to vote for Paul and not conservatives like Perry, Santorum, Gingrich and others.

Who benefits? Mittens, of course.


61 posted on 01/13/2012 8:46:45 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Scoutmaster

Sorry Scout, I’m not afraid of any boogie man.


62 posted on 01/13/2012 8:47:33 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: zzeeman

Reading between DeMint’s lines, you can see his point that with gaining the Senate and holding the House, ANY POTUS is thus bound by the legislative and not the other way around.

FURNC.


63 posted on 01/13/2012 8:49:44 PM PST by txhurl (EVERYONE is losing their virginity in this election. -Marty60)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The GOP is betting conservatives will tuck tail and vote for Mittens over Paul.


64 posted on 01/13/2012 8:57:46 PM PST by txhurl (EVERYONE is losing their virginity in this election. -Marty60)
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To: txhurl; All
"The GOP is betting conservatives will tuck tail and vote for Mittens over Paul."


65 posted on 01/13/2012 9:02:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: VicVega
It appears every time there is a negative piece on him, his poll numbers go up.

What's even weirder... every time Ron's numbers go up, Mitt Romney's go up even more.

Weirder still... Ron Paul hasn't taken a single shot at the frontrunner in this race. Cain, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum? Check, check, check and check.

But not Mitt. When it comes to Romney, Mr. Constitution has been as sweet as a pussy cat. The first man in American history to require the purchase of a service as a condition of citizenship in a state, the most egregious assault on individual liberty the country had ever seen prior to Obama... and Ron Paul has the perp in his sights, standing next to him on the stage (14 times!) with the whole country looking on and... and... nothing. Nothing in the debates, not a single ad against him, not a word against him at his rallies. He couldn't even bring himself to take a shot at Mittens on Leno (he called him a "nice guy"). Nada. Even when he's polling in second place, Ron Paul targets the people behind him and ignores the frontrunner. How weird is that?!?

It's almost like he's part of some sort of... conspiracy. Alex Jones should look into this. The Bilderbergs may have gotten to him.

66 posted on 01/13/2012 9:15:49 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Scoutmaster

“Did you hear about that recent . . . uh . . . Bilderberg Group meeting in . . . what was it?

just thought you might want to know

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43325286/Rich_Famous_and_Powerful_Converge_at_Bilderberg


67 posted on 01/13/2012 9:18:30 PM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
You should youtube. He and Newt have a very similar ad about flip flopping. Both are good.

As far as Sweater Vest, he's hoping for a spot in Romney's cabinet.

The strategy seems to be take out the weaker guys first.

If I have limited resources, I'd do the same. Let the other guys spend their money attacking the top guy while I knock off the weaker guy.

68 posted on 01/13/2012 9:23:15 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: Scoutmaster
They ARE Ron Paul.

Yeah. Sure. Just like 320 Stormfronters. I don't think I'm the one susceptible to conspiracy theories.

69 posted on 01/13/2012 9:39:30 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: Charles Martel

Yup turns out he has been a ron Paul-bot since at least 2007


70 posted on 01/13/2012 9:40:31 PM PST by Nifster
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To: VicVega
The strategy seems to be take out the weaker guys first.

That's precisely the strategy. It's the strategy of a wingman. That's what Ron is. He's working for the establishment in plain sight. And his followers are so emotionally invested in him, they'll never see it.

Brilliant, really. Not so much on Ron's part, but whoever's pulling his strings. We're definitely being taken down by some smart cookies. Of course, it doesn't hurt that we've gone brain dead.

71 posted on 01/13/2012 9:41:09 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: standing man

Speaking of the Bilderbergs, Alex Jones was screaming from every rooftop that could support his weight that Rick Perry was their man. What the hell happened? These people are superhuman luciferians, couldn’t the all-seeing eye see that the man couldn’t debate his way out of wet paper bag? Since when do the illuminati hand-pick fifth place finishers?


72 posted on 01/13/2012 9:45:25 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

What the hell happened?

Just thought the scoutmaster needed to be a little more prepared


73 posted on 01/13/2012 9:50:17 PM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Just like 320 Stormfronters.

Hey, Barack Obama only had two Weather Undergrounders backing him. In that light, 320 neo-Nazis (including their leader) sounds like a lot. Throw in David Duke, Lew Rockwell, Adam Kokesh, Jules Manson, Bill White, James von Brunn and Willis Carto and a pattern begins to emerge.

Unless you'd rather not see it. Then it doesn't. Why not? -- it worked for Obama supporters in 2008. Certainly Paul's supporters -- the flip side of the same coin -- can turn an equally blind eye to the neo-Nazi dregs coalescing around Dr. Paul.

74 posted on 01/13/2012 10:05:47 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I dont think they are “superhuman luciferians” but they must like Rick Perry

Dallas Morning News | May 31, 2007

Gov. Rick Perry is flying to Istanbul, Turkey, today to speak at the super-secret Bilderberg Conference, a meeting of about 130 international leaders in business, media and politics.

The invitation-only conference was started in 1954 and named for the Dutch hotel where the conference was first held. Those who attend promise not to reveal what was discussed, security is tight, and the press and public are barred.

The conference has been the subject of conspiracy theorists and even Christian groups who wonder about its influence.

Robert Black, the governor’s press secretary, said the governor was invited to attend and speak about state-federal relations. Mr. Black dismissed the conspiracy theories.


75 posted on 01/13/2012 10:14:18 PM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Clear Channel is the string puller, and not of RP but of the radio personalities who work for CC.

Soft and sweet coverage for Romney.

It appears to me RP and Gingrich have supporters that are emotionally invested in them.

RP clearly edges out Newt with more enthusiastic supporters.

Newt can win a debate, but he really needs to score a first or second in SC or it may be lights out.

No money, no play.

And your wrong about RP helping Romney.

He'll attack Romney, but not now, not when it could benefit others.

BTW, on a side note, I was surprised to learn that Arlen Foster of the Texans is a RP supporter.

Geaux Saints!

76 posted on 01/13/2012 10:15:20 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: standing man

Just putting it out there for Ron’s more ardent supporters. They know what Alex Jones said about Perry and the Bilderberg Group. And now they know that Alex Jones is a shrill, shrieking fraud.


77 posted on 01/13/2012 10:16:51 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Oh yeah. It’s a pattern. A conspiracy to be sure. Worth checking under the bed at night.


78 posted on 01/13/2012 10:17:21 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
. . . neo-Nazi dregs coalescing around Dr. Paul.

I thought is was the Cindy Sheehan types who coalesce around Ron Paul. If we're going to swallow conspiracy theories, let's at least be consistent.

79 posted on 01/13/2012 10:27:46 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: VicVega
He'll attack Romney, but not now, not when it could benefit others.

No, he'll wait until it benefits Soetoro. When he's running as a third party candidate. The ultimate goal is to get Barry his "gangsta-shit" term and finish this country off once and for all... and Ron's going to see to it that it happens.

It hard to believe that people can listen to Paul and not hear the utter burning hatred he has for this country. He's a madman and he's out for blood. But he's fooled a lot of people (mostly young) and he's going to do his damage. It is what it is.

80 posted on 01/13/2012 10:36:39 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I've noticed you call people conspiracy theorist and yet your the biggest one.

Paul must really be burning a hole in you.

Talk about emotional attachment.

Take a day off and quit listening to all those radio personalities that are owned by Bain.

You know who they are.

If Paul decided to run third party, he would beat them both.

Newt and Santorum are weak.

Both would give us 4 more years of the dictator.

Romney is the same.

The reality Mr. Conspiracy theorist is that all of them pretty much suck just like the GOP leadership in Washington.

The race is still young, you still may have a chance to get your guy elected, but it's going to cost money.

Newt and Rick don't have it compared to Romney.

GO unplug yourself from this BS and take a sabbatical.

You need it and you deserve it.

Leave all the CT at your special place and come back ready to fight and explain why your guy should be the nominee.

81 posted on 01/13/2012 10:46:25 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Cindy Sheehan is a communist dupe. So are Don Black and David Duke (is David still working out of Moscow these days?). It’s all perfectly consistent. Islamists and leftists (Nazis are leftists) are propping up Paul to deliver a death blow to America and Israel in the form of BHO’s second term.

And they don’t need to hide under anyone’s bed, nobody’s looking for them. Adam Kokesh held a moneybomb for Ron Paul on Putin’s Russia Today network. You didn’t blink. Ron Paul openly trashes the United States on the mass-murdering totalitarian mullahs’ Press TV, you don’t blink or even question the wisdom of doing it. That’s what it means to take your country down in plain sight. They do as they please because they know you won’t notice or care.

And before you go on any further about “conspiracies”, look the word up. They happen. All through history they’ve happened. And as a result, countries have fallen and hundreds of millions have been slaughtered. Think we’re immune? Think again. It’s happening right in front of you.


82 posted on 01/13/2012 10:50:20 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Which is worse? Pissing away our resources in support of foreign lands who don't give a rats behind about our ideals, or aiming to overthrow those ideals from within? If you think Ron Paul is on board with the overthrow of our Country, there ain't a big enough tin foil hat in the world. And if you think I'm on board with Stormfronters and/or Cindy Sheehan, your credibility lacks from the get go.

If the enemies of our country are sandbagging Ron Paul with their crazy ideas, are you going to believe Ron Paul supports them? That's nuttier than truthers. It's also a tacit admission that you don't think we have the will, resources, and capacity to defend ourselves.

83 posted on 01/13/2012 11:04:52 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: VicVega
Every sentence doesn't need to be its own paragraph. Honestly, that makes the post really difficult to read.

For the record, every bit of this is burning a hole in me. Obama, Paul, the braindead masses that are dragging this country to unrecoverable depths... every damn bit of it. I love this country and I hate watching it die.

I'm not going to go line-by-line and counter your assumptions about which Bain boogeymen I listen to and whatnot, I'm just not interested in countering that sort of tactical condescension. I said what I wanted to say and I'm content to leave it at that.

Have a good night.

84 posted on 01/13/2012 11:07:21 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I owe you a response. Heading to bed.
Don't give up the fight, but don't let this eat you alive either.

Thanks wIll work on the paragraph BS. LOL

85 posted on 01/13/2012 11:49:04 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking, but I’ll give it a shot anyway.

Do I think Ron Paul is on board with the takeover of America? I have no idea if he fully understands what he’s doing or where it will lead. He’s not particularly lucid or insightful, he relies heavily on vacuous, well-worn talking points about sound money and The Fed and liberty and what-have-you and his writings — from his newsletters to his columns that I’ve read on antiwar.com and other sites — seem to be pro-forma libertarian boilerplate designed to be distributed among his fans. I honestly can’t get a read on his motivation because I have no idea what his thought process is. He’s been using the same talking points for the four decades of writings and appearances that I have access to. When I read Jefferson or Adams, or even Reagan, they give me a glimpse into their though processes. Ron Paul’s words offer no such insight. He essentially bangs his fist down and tells me how it is. So I can’t speak to his motivation because I have no idea how he thinks. And I can’t speak to what’s in his heart for obvious reasons.

What I do know is that he’s deeply damaging to this country and that his words greatly please the Russians and the Iranians — and have for years. So much so that they use their propaganda networks to raise money for him (in the case of RT) and give him an open forum to speak his anti-American policy views in the harshest terms possible. That’s alarming to me. In my parents’ generation, such actions were unthinkable. Now those actions are completely ignored. When an American politician can get away with going on Iranian state-controlled television to savage U.S. policy and call Israel an apartheid-state, nothing matters to the American voter anymore. And that’s something we will not survive.

As far as what I think you’re on board with, I don’t. You represent words on a screen, not a real person. No offense. It’s just futile to form opinions about who you are or what your motivations are. I try to respond to words, not people. At least in this medium I do.

And, if we’re going to talk like grown-ups, drop the tin-foil nonsense. Men conspire to attain power over other men, and have since the dawn of time. Talking about aluminum foil at the mere mention of such an obvious universal truth is nothing but a tired and lazy way of being dismissive. It’s beneath this forum and really needs to be put to rest. If you think Ron Paul is unimpeachable, that’s fine. I don’t think any man not named Jesus Christ is. But I am open to the possibility that Ron Paul is merely being used and manipulated by men much smarter than he is.


86 posted on 01/14/2012 12:19:24 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: 2111USMC; LiteKeeper

Yes, I’ve known litekeeper for years now. As he says, he was an army chaplain. And an evangelical friend in the religion forum.

Thanks for asking, 2111USMC


87 posted on 01/14/2012 12:53:22 AM PST by xzins (Vulture Capitalism is Crony Capitalism on Crack)
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To: jmc813

Linzy is wrong. Paul does not demonstrate fidelity to the Constitution.

Paul assigns the Right to Life to states. It is the ultimate right, and it cannot be taken without due process.

To argue that states can arbitrarily take life but that the Fed can’t is ignorant.


88 posted on 01/14/2012 12:56:33 AM PST by xzins (Vulture Capitalism is Crony Capitalism on Crack)
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To: jmc813

Most excellent!


89 posted on 01/14/2012 3:46:39 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: svcw

Apparently because the gentleman who endorsed Dr. Paul actually took the time to do his homework and LOOKED AT THE RECORD, unlike virtually ALL his detractors who seem only to spout that day’s RNC talking points memo.


90 posted on 01/14/2012 3:50:37 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: 2111USMC; jpsb

Love the 106. Ontos: load it Sunday, shoot it all week!

Loved it mounted on the mechanical mule with the .50 spotting rifle, too. Message of the .50: If you don’t like THIS, you SURE ain’t gonna like what’s coming next!!!

Woulda been great if we coulda mounted some on my helos!!! Best we could do on the UH-34 was M60, but Ma Deuce fit real nice on my CH-53s!!!


91 posted on 01/14/2012 4:02:15 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: xzins
Yes, I’ve known litekeeper for years now.

LOL!

Sorry. I was referring to Dr. James Linzey.

92 posted on 01/14/2012 4:25:48 AM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: standing man
You wrote:

“Did you hear about that recent . . . uh . . . Bilderberg Group meeting in . . . what was it?

just thought you might want to know

Link: http://www.cnbc.com/id/43325286/Rich_Famous_and_Powerful_Converge_at_Bilderberg

*****

No.

The Bilderberg Group meets annually. Your link is about the 2011 annual meeting in St. Moritz, Switzerland. I didn't say the video was taken last year. The video and the question related to the June 5-8, 2008 meeting of the Bilderberg Group at the Westfields Marriott in Chantilly, Virginia.

The point of the video is that the Bilderberg Group is just one of the many groups that is repeatedly mentioned in the New World Order conspiracies of Ron Paul in his newsletters. The newsletters he's now back to admitting he wrote part of, which looks as though it included the Bliderberger consplracy parts, because Paul follows them and thinks the Bilderbers probably talk about controlling the banking systems of the world and natural resources.

And those Bohemian Grove people who are in on the New World Order. And the Trilateralists, and the (Dr. Ron Paul's Freedom Report, April 1978, p. 3): 'facist-oriented, international banking and business interests' that are managed by the "Marxist-oriented Torrijos dictatorship' in conduction with the Marine-Midand bank partnership with the Hong Konk and Shanghai Banking Corporation, who are being subsidized by the Export-Import bank, the Agency for International Development, and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, as part of a international blackmail scheme. (Paul's . . . umm . . . signature is on that particular page at the end of the article, right after he's tied the blackmail into the Singlaub firing, the Salt II treaty, and Paul Warnke's obsessions, and single page signatures aren't usual for 1978),

And there are the "Insiders (CFR, Trilateral Commission, etc.)" of the Ron Paul Newsletter, October 1990, Page 1.

I could keep going, but just read one of the books that Ron Paul wants you to buy "100, or even more" copies of:

So the Bilderberg Group meets (so does the Kiwanis Club and the Rotary Club). Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and off-the-record international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg's only activity is its annual conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued."

But they could be dangerous. Ron Paul figured it out through geometric logic. The strawberries. That's when he had them.

93 posted on 01/14/2012 5:00:06 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
Damn it man, hush!

We in the Kiwanis Club are trying to keep a very low profile. Its hard enough to raise adequate money with pancake suppers and golf tournaments to destabilize international banking.

If every knew what we were really up to...

94 posted on 01/14/2012 5:06:51 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
In my parents’ generation, such actions were unthinkable.

We've had at least two generations of parents whose overall effect was to establish and build an enormous feeding trough on the one hand, and to launch out into other lands striking beehives and snake pits with fancy sticks on the other. It's time to grow up, as you say, and knock it off.

95 posted on 01/14/2012 5:22:21 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: VicVega

LSU got treated like the redheaded stepchild it is. Live with it, shugga. Bama dominated your girls, in their own back yard! bwwaaaahahahaa


96 posted on 01/14/2012 5:51:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

boo hoo


97 posted on 01/14/2012 7:36:06 AM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: 2111USMC

LOL. Sorry 2111. Brain freeze in Ohio.

No, I don’t know Linzey. I was surprised that the summary of his career was “24 years and retired with an honorable discharge.” Well, duh. I’d sure hope so.

In any case, it doesn’t say if he was active, reserve, or NG, either. I never had the pleasure of meeting him. I’m sure he’s a fine person, but he can’t be a real pro-life minister, if he doesn’t see through Paul’s “state-by-state right to life.” (Kill ‘em in PA, preserve ‘em in VA).


98 posted on 01/14/2012 8:36:20 AM PST by xzins (Vulture Capitalism is Crony Capitalism on Crack)
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To: xzins

I agree. The “state-by-state” is a dodge so that RP doesn’t have to answer the question straight-up.


99 posted on 01/14/2012 9:05:51 AM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Scoutmaster
New World Order conspiracies
your response seems kinda shrill to me
the motto be prepared is not for the things that you know will happen but for those things that might possibly happen no matter the odds.
Forget Ron Paul, forget Alex Jones, do your own research or would that take too much effort. its very easy to scream nut job it takes more work to prove it.
100 posted on 01/14/2012 9:06:00 AM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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