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'Stop Romney' Christian conservatives give nod to Santorum ahead of S.C. balloting
MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS ^ | 1/14/2012 | WILLIAM DOUGLAS AND ADAM BEAM

Posted on 01/14/2012 3:31:10 PM PST by TBBT

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- With the South Carolina Republican presidential primary a week away, former Sen. Rick Santorum on Saturday received the endorsement of 150 influential Christian conservative leaders who are hoping to prevent former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney from becoming the GOP nominee.

The group, suspicious that Romney's commitment to social conservative causes such as ending legalized abortion is weak, met at a ranch outside of Houston, Texas, in hopes of rallying around one candidate rather than split their votes among three - Santorum, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

The endorsement came as the Republican presidential field converged on scenic Charleston, S.C., for a televised town hall meeting for undecided voters hosted by Rep. Tim Scott, R-S.C., and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said in a telephone news conference after the meeting that the conservatives had begun their deliberations with "not a lot of hope that we could reach consensus around one candidate."

But in the end "there emerged a strong consensus around Rick Santorum," Perkins said, after three rounds of balloting.

Santorum, a staunch anti-abortion social conservative, was considered a long-shot candidate before surprising many by losing to Romney in Iowa caucuses Jan. 3 by only eight votes.

Support fluctuated between Santorum and Gingrich, Perkins said, before more than two-thirds voted for the former Pennsylvania senator. In the end, Santorum received 85 votes out of 114 - a smaller total because Perkins said some participants had left to catch flights.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; gingrich; idiocy; newt; newtgingrich; preacherinchief; ricksantorum; romney; santorum; southcarolina
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I almost have to laugh...

"Stop Romney".

Ironic isn't it? Their efforts may very well secure a victory for the one one they so desperately want to stop.

I suspect that the Romney camp is loving this.

Santorum doesn't have a prayer at beating Romney.

1 posted on 01/14/2012 3:31:25 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Apparently Newt is getting 50,000 Christian leaders together: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2833039/posts


2 posted on 01/14/2012 3:35:14 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: TBBT

Keep on Laughing TBBT.

Keep on laughting. :D


3 posted on 01/14/2012 3:44:15 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: BenKenobi
Keep on Laughing TBBT.

Keep on laughting. :D


Fine.

But don't come back here crying when Romney is the nominee.
4 posted on 01/14/2012 3:47:11 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT; All

Aww, bless their hearts! Huckabee rides again!


5 posted on 01/14/2012 3:49:32 PM PST by j.argese (Newt ... the Nixon of our time ...)
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To: TBBT

Between the Romney rinos and this desire to support Rick S., Romney will win if this continues. All of the prayers in the world are not going to change the numbers for Rick S.


6 posted on 01/14/2012 3:53:29 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: TBBT

George Barna (an Evangelical) who runs the Barna research group came out today and supported...Newt Gingrich. He thought Gingrich would be the best candidate to defend Christianity in this era.

This is the first time Barna has ever supported anybody in any race.


7 posted on 01/14/2012 3:54:49 PM PST by livius
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To: TBBT

I agree. Romney is up in one poll in SC by 21. Santorum is one of the worst candidates they could rallied around.


8 posted on 01/14/2012 3:56:57 PM PST by coffeehays
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To: TBBT

They aren’t interested in doing anything other than f’ing up like they do almost every election.

Paper tigers always looking to act so righteous while they rum themselves into a wall.

Romney’s best voting bloc.


9 posted on 01/14/2012 4:00:24 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Christie at the beach

You’re right...

I’m not too optimistic about the chances of stopping Romney. I don’t see the Rick/Rick clingers loosening their grip. This is mostly likely to play out as it did in 2008. Except this time Romney’s margin of victory will be bigger.

We’ll see next week when fresh polls come out. Possible outcomes...

- Santorum switches places with Newt in the polls but is still well short of beating Romney (best case scenario for Santorum).

- Newt slides, Santorum gains, and the both meet around 20%, well short of what’s needed to beat Romney.

- The polls remain static - leading to Romney win.

- The only chance that Romney looses S.C.: Somehow S.C. realizes the realities of the battle field and move towards Newt. This depends on how big the Anti-Romney sentiment is in S.C. - something that I’m not sure is that large. Being the optimist that I am - this is probably the least likely outcome.


10 posted on 01/14/2012 4:05:36 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT
What a pathetic waste of resources! And last of all; he cannot beat Obama. What are they thinking!
11 posted on 01/14/2012 4:10:28 PM PST by cricket (<I>Obama the Occupyer</I> must go. . .and Newt must win. . .)
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To: coffeehays
If you are referring to the just released Reuters/Ipsos poll, I wouldn't put too much stock in it...
The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online from January 10-13 with a sample of 995 South Carolina registered voters. It included 398 Republicans and 380 Democrats.
That's 380 Democrats and apparently 217 Independents. Republicans make up just 40% of this poll. Is that really representative of how the voting demographic is going to play out in S.C.? With that many Democrats and Independents sampled in this poll, are the results any surprise?
12 posted on 01/14/2012 4:14:07 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

You can have Romine. He’s all yours. When he ends up being Obama 2, remember all your love for the commie homo abortion loving liberal.


13 posted on 01/14/2012 4:22:45 PM PST by RetiredArmy (The End of Days draws near. In this time, you should be drawing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Oh heavens. Conservatives actually choosing a conservative!?

How can that be!

Durn them all to heck!


14 posted on 01/14/2012 4:40:19 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: TBBT

Apparently, despite the oversample, Santorum’s numbers didn’t budge.

Either Santorum’s really got the solid support of the conservatives that did get polled, or Newt is radioactive among independents. ;)


15 posted on 01/14/2012 4:42:13 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: TBBT

Or maybe the Hillary supporter just dig the sweater-vest. :p


16 posted on 01/14/2012 4:43:17 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: TBBT

“Santorum switches places with Newt in the polls but is still well short of beating Romney (best case scenario for Santorum).”

He’s winning in NC? Why is that?

Best case scenario - Santorum beats Mitt, Newt beats Mitt, Santorum beats Newt (as in NC), and Mitt finishes third.

“Somehow S.C. realizes the realities of the battle field and move towards Newt”

It’s like taking a quiz. All the answers have the same one. Newt.


17 posted on 01/14/2012 4:46:11 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: upchuck; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; randita; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; antonius; ...

I hope that this collective endorsement works. Romney is a Wall Street liberal and Gingrich has too many liabilities to be a strong general election candidate.


18 posted on 01/14/2012 4:50:48 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Utmost Certainty

GO NEWT!
MY prayers belong to Newt Gingrich!


19 posted on 01/14/2012 4:52:08 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: j.argese

Split vote = Romney is ccounting on that to stop his feared challenger Newt Gingrich!

GO NEWT!


20 posted on 01/14/2012 4:54:19 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Santorum has my vote and I’ll try to squeeze out a few more bucks for him. Money is really the only reason a candidate gets out of a race regardless of where they finish in these early races.

In 08 McCain was finishing very low in the early primaries but he had money and media behind him to keep going and pick up delegates as others dropped out.

Don’t know if you saw this thread. Santorum says he’ll home school in the white house.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2832965/posts


21 posted on 01/14/2012 4:58:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

A homeschooling President? That’s another reason to vote for Santorum.


22 posted on 01/14/2012 5:17:24 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: TBBT
Exactly! And he certainly couldn't win a General Election.

This farce will continue right until Romney gets the nomination, just like it did with that moron Huckabee and McCain.

23 posted on 01/14/2012 5:58:46 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Newt would kill Obama.

Santorum would just stand there like a deer in the headlights.

24 posted on 01/14/2012 6:01:10 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: cripplecreek
Don't’ worry, Romney will be funneling money to Santorum’s campaign, he isn't going to allow him to drop out.
25 posted on 01/14/2012 6:02:34 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Don't’ worry, Romney will be funneling money to Santorum’s campaign, he isn't going to allow him to drop out.

Nice try but after that same crap has been used on more than a few candidates it has lost its effect. Noting but a coward's ploy.
26 posted on 01/14/2012 6:06:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: TBBT
>> I almost have to laugh... "Stop Romney". Ironic isn't it? Their efforts may very well secure a victory for the one one they so desperately want to stop. <<

Yes, if only they were liked the enlightened Newt fans on FR, they'd realize the guy with endless scandals who placed 4th and 5th place and hasn't won a single county yet is the "only" man who can stop Romney.

27 posted on 01/14/2012 6:06:35 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: fortheDeclaration; Clintonfatigued; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
>> Newt would kill Obama. <<

Not if the Newt who showed up for global warming "debate" with John Kerry is on stage with Obama in the future. Instead we'd have Newt agreeing with Obama's left-wing premises to show what a smart, enlightened, compassionate conservative he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY2Uh6TKqnk

>> Santorum would just stand there like a deer in the headlights. <<

Sure, like he always has in the past and especially when he debated Barbara Boxer on the Senate floor. Oh, wait! That didn't happen, did it? Instead, the opposite happened. Santorum moped the floor with the vile leftists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTjb9rzyEo

28 posted on 01/14/2012 6:15:02 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: TBBT
You forgot the fifth option -- out of the blue and despite all polling data to the contrary Ron Paul manages to pull in 60+% of the votes in all the remaining primaries, coinciding with the results of all the unscientific online polls.

... why are you looking at me like that? All the Paul supporters assure me it's going to happen!

29 posted on 01/14/2012 6:16:11 PM PST by MWS
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To: BillyBoy

“Yes, if only they were liked the enlightened Newt fans on FR, they’d realize the guy with endless scandals who placed 4th and 5th place and hasn’t won a single county yet is the “only” man who can stop Romney.”

You Obama boys are really, really scared of this man aren’t you..??

You should boy cause Obama is going down in 2012....!!!

BTW, only had two primaries and both of them have been in libeals states....Newt will do jus fine in the South.

Be Patient....Obama’s butt whoppins coming, Newt’s just gotta finish off “Ol” lefty Rommy boy first. I want be long now.


30 posted on 01/14/2012 6:17:58 PM PST by swampfox101 (s)
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To: BillyBoy

“Yes, if only they were liked the enlightened Newt fans on FR, they’d realize the guy with endless scandals who placed 4th and 5th place and hasn’t won a single county yet is the “only” man who can stop Romney.”

You Obama boys are really, really scared of this man aren’t you..??

You should be because Obama is going down in 2012....!!!

BTW, only had two primaries and both of them have been in libeals states....Newt will do just fine in the South.

Be Patient....Obama’s butt whoppins coming, Newt’s just gotta finish off “Ol” lefty Rommy boy first. I want be long now.


31 posted on 01/14/2012 6:19:12 PM PST by swampfox101 (s)
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To: onyx

That’s dead on, onyx
Why people can’t see through this is beyond me ....


32 posted on 01/14/2012 6:20:30 PM PST by j.argese (Newt ... the Nixon of our time ...)
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To: BillyBoy
Newt has said he has rejected that earlier view.

Santorum hasn't said anything in the GOP debates that anyone remembers or cares about.

Newt will go after Obama and the MSM, Santorum will be wide eyed and polite.

We need someone who is going to fight for this election, not another polite Senator.

33 posted on 01/14/2012 6:24:00 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: j.argese

Romney watched ‘08. He learned from Iowa and the usefulness of Huckabee against Thompson. Of course Thompson’s heart wasn’t in it, unlike Newt’s.


34 posted on 01/14/2012 6:27:04 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: BillyBoy
Newties "Environmental Solutions Agency" sounds a lot like the green energy scams we have now aside from the fact that Mr Small government wants a federal agency dedicated to "incentivising" energy.

Gingrich’s list of energy policies includes providing incentives for flex fuel vehicles that can use corn-based ethanol rather than gasoline — a key issue for Iowa’s farm economy.

Newt Gingrich proposes abolishing EPA(and replacing it with another agency)
35 posted on 01/14/2012 6:31:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: onyx

Well, here’s to the Republic and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year to you


36 posted on 01/14/2012 6:44:27 PM PST by j.argese (Newt ... the Nixon of our time ...)
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To: cripplecreek; Impy; American Constitutionalist; AuH2ORepublican
>> Newties "Environmental Solutions Agency" sounds a lot like the green energy scams we have now aside from the fact that Mr Small government wants a federal agency dedicated to "incentivising" energy. <<

Indeed. Quite a few of Newt's think tank "Solutions" are anything but fiscally conservative. I was arguing with one of the Neuticles today who was claiming Santorum is a "big government socialist" but Gingrich is a "fiscal conservative". If that's true, why does Santorum have much better ratings from the Club for Growth and the National Taxpayers Union, both EXCLUSIVELY dedicated to fiscal issues? Are they lying? If Newt's more of a "fiscal conservative", how come he endorsed TARP and the wall street bailouts, an individual mandate for health care, and taking drastic government action to stop global warming -- all of whom Santorum vehemently opposed? Are we to believe that pro-TARP side was the "fiscally conservative" position? And why is it that Santorum is a "socialist" when he took earmarks and raised his own salary, but Newt's a great conservative when he does it? Why is it a "unacceptable" for Santorum to endorse Arlen Specter under pressure, but perfectly OK for Newt to eagerly endorse the even more liberal Dede Scozzafava?

Not ONE of my questions was answered. They'll just repeat "Newt is a fiscal conserevative, Santorum is a pro-life socialist" ad infim, like a broken record.

Newt fans just want to sit in their glass houses and hurl stones, ignoring the fact that Newt's record is to the LEFT of Santorum -- not only on social issues, but fiscal issues as well. Facts are like Kryptonite to Neuticles.

At least I won't stoop to their level. If Santorums a "big government socialist" then we might as well start claiming Newt hates Jews and loves abortion. Why stick with facts when you can just smear people with false accusations?

37 posted on 01/14/2012 6:49:44 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: j.argese

Thank you very much, dear friend. I wish you the very same for this New Year. Prayers for Republic and for Newt Gingrich’s safe and successful journey to the presidency.


38 posted on 01/14/2012 6:55:02 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
>> Newt has said he has rejected that earlier view. <<

Ohhh, now that he's running for President he sees the error of his ways! Such courage! < /sarcasm> Funny how guys never give Romney a pass when he says he rejects his earlier views.

>> Newt will go after Obama and the MSM, Santorum will be wide eyed and polite. We need someone who is going to fight for this election, not another polite Senator. <<

Obviously you did not click on the links I sent you. The Newt that showed up in the debate with John Kerry was wide eyed and polite, the Santorum who showed in the debate with Barbara Boxer fought for conservatives and went after liberals and the MSM. BTW, you Newt fans do you guy a disservice by continually overhyping his debate skills. If you keep gloating about how Newt will "destroy Obama", you raise the bar for Newt so much that any flub at all, no matter how minor, will be spun as a "victory" for Obama in a debate.

39 posted on 01/14/2012 6:55:08 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: j.argese

Sorry, I omitted a word (*Our* Republic) - was watching Newt Gingrich’s closing statement.

Huckster’s forum.


40 posted on 01/14/2012 6:57:14 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: j.argese

Beat me to it.

The Santuckabee screws the pooch again for conservatives.


41 posted on 01/14/2012 7:06:54 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: BenKenobi

I’m not seeing how Santorum is conservative. What, on his record, leads you to believe that he is?


42 posted on 01/14/2012 7:10:15 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

I think the most productive way to advance this discussion is, how do you define a conservative? What is it that makes someone a conservative in your understanding.

I know what it is for me. And I can describe why I support him, but I don’t know about you.

For me - what catches my eye is his consistant support for unborn children, his outright rejection of abortion, contraception and gay marriage. I’m a convert to Catholicism. This really resonates with me seeing a candidate who not only supports the things that I do but is outspokenly in favor of them.

As for the rest, Santorum has a solid spending plan, to cut spending to 2008 levels, and 5 trillion on top of that. That’s important that he has a plan, but that plan is not why people support him.

It’s not something that’s going to change. What you see is what you get. You’re not going to come back 5 years from now and go, whoa. Where did that come from?

I also take a look at his enemies. Who hates santorum so much that they put up a site with his name to try to smear him? You never get an enemy, unless you’ve stood behind something. Churchill said this. Santorum has been so consistantly in support of these things that he’s come by his enemies honestly, and I respect that.

I’ve had to deal with these folks myself and that is why Santorum appeals so much to me, because he knows what I have gone through.

But that’s just me. I can appreciate folks being skeptical. If you want someone like Paul who wants to slash government spending to that degree - then you should probably vote Paul. But if you want a solid conservative then Santorum’s your man.


43 posted on 01/14/2012 7:19:07 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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44 posted on 01/14/2012 7:47:44 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: BillyBoy
Oh, and Santorum is totally consistent on everything he has said in the last few years.

Shall we check his voting record?

Doesn't believe in Right to work?

How are his gun votes?

Tarp?

Balanced budget?

Newt and Kerry agreed on the problem and only disagreed on the solution.

Why wouldn't it be polite.

Newt is the only one who has provided any fireworks in these debates.

He is able to reframe the question when the MSM twists it.

All Santorum is going to do is 'me to' Obama.

He isn't going to beat Romney and he won't beat Obama.

45 posted on 01/14/2012 10:49:47 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: BillyBoy; fortheDeclaration; sickoflibs

He said it was a “mistake”. As far as I know, correct me if I’m wrong, he never said why or offered any elaboration or disavowed that he believed in climate change.

Why appear in the ad if he didn’t believe the nonsense and favor a Gore/Pelosi style radical government solution to the imaginary problem? Doesn’t make any sense.


46 posted on 01/15/2012 1:05:21 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: BenKenobi
For me - what catches my eye is his consistent support for unborn children, his outright rejection of abortion, contraception and gay marriage. I’m a convert to Catholicism. This really resonates with me seeing a candidate who not only supports the things that I do but is outspokenly in favor of them.

Which is good.

The problem I see is that his past record shows that he's never seen a spending bill he didn't like. And with a deficit bigger than our entire national GNP, this is a massive danger.

Furthermore, his past record on the US Constitution shows that he believes it good and proper to disregard it when his personal beliefs are in question. Which is just the same as Obama and his beliefs. That also is a great danger.

(http://www.redstate.com/louisianapatriette/2012/01/12/perry-santorum-and-the-evangelical-dilemma/)

At a time where our nation is so very close to bankruptcy... and at a time where our nation is *ALSO* so very close to losing it's very ideal of a federal republic, I don't think we can afford to have yet another President trample over our Constitution and spend our money like a drunken sailor.

47 posted on 01/15/2012 1:56:05 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: TBBT

I see from the article that every campaign sent representatives. What kind of a group of Christian conservatives was this? Does it have a name?


48 posted on 01/15/2012 2:20:42 AM PST by firebrand
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To: gogogodzilla

“The fact is that both Rick Perry and Rick Santorum are, thankfully, pro-life.”

False. Perry supported abortion in the case of rape and Incest until as late as december.

“My comment reflects my recognition that marriage and most issues of the family historically have been decided by the people at the state and local level.”

Also false. Reynolds clearly demonstrates that it is the responsibility of the federal government to enforce marriage. This is why Utah could not be admitted by supporting polygamy. The federal government can only enforce, it can no more change the definition then it can drop Habeaus Corpus. The definition of marriage is an essential part of the English common law.

Read the decision. This red state article does not even understand the constitutional issues surrounding Gay marriage. This is why Santorum is right and Perry is wrong.

As for the rest - Santorum’s plan is better than Paul Ryan’s. He argues in favor of cutting back to 2008 levels immediately, with a further 5 trillion in cuts on top of that.

You can argue that his record speaks otherwise, but his platform is clear. The state cannot continue as it has and the federal government must spend within their means.

That article, is a terrible article. I could write a better one and if you pay me, I’d be happy to write an article explaining why Rick Santorum’s position is constitutionally correct, and why Rick Perry’s position is constitutionally incorrect.


49 posted on 01/15/2012 2:33:23 AM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: Impy
Maybe now he has seen the new data and has been convinced.

He appeared in the ad's, thinking the problem was a real one, to say that even though they agreed there was a problem, they disagreed on how to deal with it.

Newt wanted to take a free market approach to it.

50 posted on 01/15/2012 2:34:21 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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