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Poll: Republicans in Congress at risk (The establishment is destroying the party)
The Hill ^ | January 13th

Posted on 01/15/2012 5:12:43 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Democrats have taken the lead in a generic congressional ballot for the first time since being washed out of office by Republicans in the 2010 election, according to a Democracy Corps survey released Friday.

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Fifty-three percent said they were increasingly displeased with Republicans in Congress, and the same amount said they were turned off by the increasingly contentious GOP presidential primary.

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Why has the GOP primary season been contentious? BECAUSE THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE MEDIA TO NUKE ANY GOOD CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE!!! Good Grief!

I've been saying since 2008 that the establishment would rather see progressives get elected than conservatives, and here it is. Romney is their guy, and they'll do whatever it takes to get him nominated, they'll smear anybody they can.

This is what we get for thinking we could cross the republicans, they're going to nuke some of our great conservative congress people too.

For the establishment, it's big government republicans or bust!

1 posted on 01/15/2012 5:12:48 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

A “Democracy Corps” (Corpse) poll?! ROTFL!


2 posted on 01/15/2012 5:15:13 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

State by state, newly drawn district by newly drawn district, that’s all that counts.


3 posted on 01/15/2012 5:15:29 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: MSF BU

A Romney candidacy will depress the base and place the House in jeopardy.


4 posted on 01/15/2012 5:16:09 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not according to Rasmussen who has been keeping good pulse on this issue. GOP is leading by 5 or 6 pts.


5 posted on 01/15/2012 5:17:10 PM PST by Fee
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

95% of all public GOP faces from media to beltway to brass to whomever except Mark Levin and Todd Palin forcing Romney down out throats as yet another McCain

has killed our enthusiasm


6 posted on 01/15/2012 5:17:34 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I am disappointed because they have not listened to the Tea Party folks. However I can work to replace them which will give courage to folks to continue what the Tea Party folks started. I am not worried about losing the House but adding more folks with courage to do the right thing.


7 posted on 01/15/2012 5:17:51 PM PST by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Doesn’t gibe with several other reports about independents leaning right


8 posted on 01/15/2012 5:18:25 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: MSF BU

Uh huh.

The establishment is going to keep nuking ANY conservative candidate, even into the general. They’ve already proven they’ll gladly do it too, ask Christine O’Donnell, Sharon Angle, or Joe Miller.

The republicans are petulant. It’s that simple. They’d rather have bearded marxists in the senate than conservative females.


9 posted on 01/15/2012 5:18:52 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

lizardhead’s poll......yeah right.


10 posted on 01/15/2012 5:20:21 PM PST by mystery-ak (gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I did my part to double cross “the establishment”. I voted for Perry here in Iowa. I suggest to all reading this to do your part to double cross “the establishment”. Vote for whomever you want, don’t take orders from anyone.


11 posted on 01/15/2012 5:20:37 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwheXIa8Cl0


12 posted on 01/15/2012 5:22:27 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: mystery-ak

Is that whose poll this is? That makes it even funnier. Jimmy wouldn’t lie to us. LOL!


13 posted on 01/15/2012 5:22:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

DEMOCRACY CORPS Poll????

Can’t these Soros clowns come up with anything original?


14 posted on 01/15/2012 5:22:56 PM PST by max americana (Obama is a POS)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“Democracy Corps survey”

this unbiased poll run by mr obama


15 posted on 01/15/2012 5:24:29 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: ez

I voted for Santorum myself; they are all flawed candidates but the last thing the nation needs is another USSC appointment like Kagan. I like to think the GOP voters will be smart enought to realize this even though many of them (to include myself) are not enamored of Romney.


16 posted on 01/15/2012 5:27:02 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: vicar7

“I am disappointed because they have not listened to the Tea Party folks.”
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The tea party, which happens to represent my feelings
more then any other group, has been trashed and marginalized to no end.
The sniveling red diaper doper baby Marxist refer to them as teabagers, as in the sexual sense.

This is why I am thankful that I am retired and able to live far away.
I fear that MY America is finished.
The Communist media and Republican turncoat leftist are pushing us over a cliff as fast as they can.


17 posted on 01/15/2012 5:28:55 PM PST by AlexW
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To: wardaddy

“has killed our enthusiasm”

And has strengthened our absolute resolve.


18 posted on 01/15/2012 5:30:02 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Founded by Cpl. Cueball


19 posted on 01/15/2012 5:32:03 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: MSF BU

If Romney wins, we will get two more Souters.


20 posted on 01/15/2012 5:32:32 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: MSF BU
2012 really is shaping up as an odoriferous campaign. Hold-your-nose-time is coming, I fear. But I'm damned if I don't vote against the Usurper, even if the GOP runs Daffy Duck. And they just might.
21 posted on 01/15/2012 5:32:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Frankly, I think the American electorate is part of the problem. People say they want action on the deficit, but when you actually get down to the specifics, they punish the people trying to solve it. They also fall for the ploy that the Congress as “obstructionist” when it won’t go along with the President’s spendthrift policies.

Its kinda like the weak-minded storm trooper falling for the Jedi mind trick every time.


22 posted on 01/15/2012 5:34:25 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I don’t know about that either, ask Senator Lee or Senator Rubio. Clearly it was disappointing to see guys like Miller lose the the vacuous Murkowski, but you win some you lose some. I think in many cases the limp wristers look at what happened to Crist in Florida and Bennett in Utah and develop a spine out of fear of going the same way. As for Angle or O’Donnell, face facts, they were second raters at best. Had the GOP in Nevada found themselves another guy like Paul Laxalt instead of running Angle, he or she would be in the Senate rather than Reid. The lesson from that election is recruit more folks like Rubio and fewer like Angle.


23 posted on 01/15/2012 5:38:27 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: FlingWingFlyer
don't get me wrong, the pubs are far superior to the rats, any day of the week and twice on sunday...but...

don't you think the establishment WANTS more regulation...more laws..more "departments" overseeing everything we do...

that way they can wring their hands over enviromental regulation or educational regulation or health regulations...."we can't do anything about it"..because of the law..

just like giving bamey a pass on these "recess" appointemts...believe me, there is a number of pubs who WANT more dictatorial power....they can raise money and campaign against it and we all donate and fall in line....

we're just like little puppets...sheeple....

24 posted on 01/15/2012 5:39:27 PM PST by cherry
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Republicans always had some success in getting President's elected off and on since IKE. However, they were out in the cold for forty years until Newt and the contract with America.

Looks like the elites are happy to be exiled as long as they can get rid of conservative candidates. GOP E are driving their party into oblivion just as surely as Corzine destroyed MF Global.

25 posted on 01/15/2012 5:40:46 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Given the coming total leftist media barrage-(among other things)- it will be a miracle if the Republicans capture the Presidency and a minor miracle if Republicans hold onto the House.

"Three weeks of press treatment and the truth is recognized by all."- "The Decline Of The West," Oswald Spengler.

26 posted on 01/15/2012 5:44:28 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: vicar7

I’m not worried at all about this poll, in January 2012 from a liberal polling firm. However, we will lose our advantage if we don’t control the message. The way to control the message is to make it straightforward and easy to communicate. This, fortunately, is not that difficult, but I’m not sure we’ve got the right people on point to do it.

The message needs to be about freedom. That word should be used over, and over, and over again. It needs to be pointed out to the public example after example after example of how their freedoms have been eroded.

From a social perspective conservatives need to emphasize a message that is consistent with the general theme of freedom. They need to point out that it is the left, and not conservatives who want to dictate to the rest of us how to live. They need to point out that although they champion free expression, and aren’t in favor of ‘banning’ anything, they believe in safe havens in society that protect the innocent, including most importantly the innocence of youth. They need to point out that the entertainment industry has lost its way to such an extent that parents can’t watch television with their children anymore without fear of what they might be exposed to. They need to point out that we have mortgaged our children’s futures in multiple ways - - by letting labor unions/teachers unions dictated policy to parents and school boards, by letting the entertainment industry act irresponsibly, by spending the nation into unprecedented debt.

These are just part of the things that the public is concerned about, and that we can use to discredit the left. I would also push the issue of freedom of choice in medicine. The list is long. I would also appeal to national pride. Make no mistake, the crashing of helicopters in the desert and the impression that the rest of the world didn’t respect us anymore played a big role in getting rid of Carter. A new ‘morning in America’ message, with a plan behind it to make it credible, would be well-received I think.

I truly believe that many people on this board could do a better job articulating an exciting message than many of the politicians we have out there now. It appears to me that they have become so encumbered by their attempts to find the right ‘form’ for their campaigns that they have forgotten that they need to concentrate on ‘substance’ and articulate a clear message.


27 posted on 01/15/2012 5:49:05 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ez

“If Romney wins, we will get two more Souters.”

That’s scary, but not as scary a the wise latino and Kagan.

You just reminded me why I have to vote Romney if he becomes the nominee. AAAAArgh.

Maybe we can play the same trick that was played in the past only in reverse. Make sure someone convinces Romney to appoint a mainstream moderate who is actually a closet Conservative.


28 posted on 01/15/2012 5:49:20 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MSF BU

And if Angle was running against 2 weak guys who split the vote like Meek and Crist instead of the most powerful man in the Senate and in the state, she’d have won.

That election in NV was always going to be a tough one. Senate majority leaders don’t lose every day.

I don’t really think anyone else in NV would have done much better than she ended up doing.


29 posted on 01/15/2012 6:02:06 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Halfmanhalfamazing.
...according to a Democracy Corps survey released Friday.

30 posted on 01/15/2012 6:03:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: max americana

UH! Would that not be Democracy Corpse?


31 posted on 01/15/2012 6:04:02 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Yup.

Anyone who’s resting on the laurels from 2010 is due for a harsh reality check come this November.

The GOP has failed to organize around a coherent ideological message since then. Too much systemic disarray between the Establishment vs. the Tea Party.

Nobody’s going to be able to wage a successful election this time premised around the excuse of, “well, at least we’re not Obama!”


32 posted on 01/15/2012 6:07:01 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: wardaddy

“has killed our enthusiasm”

Not to mention a republican controlled house has out spent Nancy Pelosi and basically been a rubber stamp for Obama.

Whats the point in supporting these people. They have not earned a thing except for my disgust....


33 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:27 PM PST by Breto (The republican establishment are morons)
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To: jeltz25
"I don’t really think anyone else in NV would have done much better than she ended up doing."

Hard to beat those two dim mainstays, graft and corruption. And whose better at it than Dingy?

34 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:39 PM PST by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

35 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:43 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I loathe bonehead.

I loathe RINOmney.

I loath Newt.

And I’m very very close to loathing republicans in general.

Get conservative or go somewhere and die, establishment repubs.


36 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:59 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Utmost Certainty

Agreed. You have said it well.


37 posted on 01/15/2012 6:19:23 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The GOP House MUST start the year by doing what they should have done months ago: REMOVE JOHN BOEHNER.


38 posted on 01/15/2012 6:22:24 PM PST by montag813
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To: Utmost Certainty
Nobody’s going to be able to wage a successful election this time premised around the excuse of, “well, at least we’re not Obama!”

I agree, but there are an awful lot of Republicans who are counting on it.

39 posted on 01/15/2012 6:22:31 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Vote for any Conservative you can down to dog-catcher. If need be, hold you nose if the only choice is loser twins (DIM & RINO). Vote.


40 posted on 01/15/2012 6:23:26 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: jeltz25

I’d don’t think Reid would have defeated a guy like Laxalt. Angle was a ditz, certainly a poor debater, or that was my impression the few times I saw her. My point is however that the GOP needs to do better recruitment.


41 posted on 01/15/2012 6:24:39 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: ez
"If Romney wins, we will get two more Souters Earl Warrens."
42 posted on 01/15/2012 6:31:52 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: montag813
The GOP House MUST start the year by doing what they should have done months ago: REMOVE JOHN BOEHNER.

The Crybaby has to be a Democrat plant. No one could work as hard as he does to promote the Obama agenda who is not a Rat.

43 posted on 01/15/2012 6:34:37 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The Conservatives (me included) have been so wrapped up in the primary season and this Romnyphobia, that we have been letting down the conservative Congress people. They have been doing a good job and not being recognized by us or anyone else. We have let this 8% Congressional approval rate apply to our people by just accepting it for the overall Congress and gloating. But the conservatives in Congress are being painted with the same brush. We must get behind them. The Senate files away and hides their work, but we are not broadcasting their good work. Shame!!!
44 posted on 01/15/2012 6:36:35 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

No shocker. When they cram a socialist light candidate (Romney) down your throat...you tend to give up on that party.

Clearly the party of stupid needs another 4 more years of Zero. Pushing the candidate whose socialistic healthcare plan served as the baseline for Obamacare tells me the GOP doesn’t get it yet. Maybe 4 more years will help to run out the idiots in charge.


45 posted on 01/15/2012 6:36:51 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: ez
A Romney candidacy will depress the base and place the House in jeopardy.

That's it in a nutshell. Romney as the nominee will lead to disaster for conservatives---Unless a strong, 3rd party conservative emerges....
46 posted on 01/15/2012 6:39:18 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: vmivol00
Clearly the party of stupid needs another 4 more years of Zero. Pushing the candidate whose socialistic healthcare plan served as the baseline for Obamacare tells me the GOP doesn’t get it yet. Maybe 4 more years will help to run out the idiots in charge.

I would argue that if the Stupid Party establishment can't get Romney, they'll be happy with another 4 years of Obama. Anything but an actual conservative. That's what's going on here.
47 posted on 01/15/2012 6:41:54 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: MSF BU
“..GOP needs to do better recruitment.”

I do agree with the statement, however as I said in another post, we are not supporting the good crop of freshmen conservatives we have. We put them in office and forget them. They need a booster club and FR ought to be it!

48 posted on 01/15/2012 6:42:28 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

The “conservatives” in the House? What, you mean the ones like Allen West who talk tough but let Crybaby Boehner push them around? It’s nice of you to try to bring some positivity into this thread, but I just don’t buy it.

The GOP establishment in the House is doing what it does best: killing America at a slightly slower rate and calling it “progress.”

Fun fact: most conservatives recognize the fallacy of “spending cuts” that just decrease the rate of increase, but they’ll turn around and vote for a socialist who will do the very same.


49 posted on 01/15/2012 6:49:32 PM PST by Cato in PA (Socialist R or Socialist D? Neither of them is the one for me.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The two year long campaign season is taking a toll.


50 posted on 01/15/2012 6:49:49 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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