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WHY DO THEY MOCK TIM TEBOW?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 01/16/12 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 01/16/2012 11:30:17 AM PST by shortstop

Why do they mock Tebow?

And why do we let them?

In what is arguably the most religiously tolerant society in human history, how is it that, in the modern age, the religious expression of an athlete is the brunt of jokes and the target of mockery?

Why don’t we denounce that for the bigotry it is?

Because our tolerance is in name only.

And it is unevenly applied.

In America, intolerance of the minority is rejected, but intolerance of the majority is expected.

Tim Tebow is mocked not because he is religious, but because he is Christian.

Were he similarly zealous in devotion to a minority religion, his piety would be solemnly respected. If a Muslim playing in the NFL knelt in prayer, or expressed gratitude to his God for his professional success, he would be lionized for his bravery. His religious views would be treated with reverential respect.

He would be seen as a great example of his faith and the nation would honor him and his religion.

The same would be true for a Hindu or a Buddhist or a Wiccan.

But not for a Christian.

Because there is a double standard of religion in this country. Christians, particularly conservative or Bible-based Christians, are treated as inferior oddballs, as benighted Neanderthals with small minds and small views.

You can see that in the coverage of the Republican presidential race. And in the reporting on Tim Tebow.

If the snide player remarks about Tim Tebow had been made about a Muslim player, the commissioner and the league would have levied sanctions. If that same Muslim player had had his religion mocked on a late-night talk show, the nation would be aghast.

But not with Tebow.

Not with a Christian.

That is wrong, and it should be challenged. Instead of silently suffered, it should be publicly denounced.

There should be one standard of respect for religion in this country. The way we treat minority religions is closest to what is right. There should be neighborly respect and tolerance.

But what’s good for the goose should be good for the gander, and all religions – including the majority religion – should be respected.

Too often in the media, there is a condescension toward conservative Christians. That is a reflection of the philosophical prejudices of the media culture and of the liberal agenda.

That is ironic because the best virtues of American society are found in Christian teachings. In fact, American liberty could never have arisen without the seedbed of Christian faith. Not that one must be a Christian to be an American, but that the fundamental worth of the individual, and the moral freedom of the individual, are ideas which philosophically arose as outgrowths of Christian belief.

It was the reading of the Bible and faith in the Christian God which gave rise to the independence of thought necessary to conceive of and fight for liberty.

That is not to denigrate any other faith. It is simply to recognize the reality of American history.

America’s tolerance is fundamentally a product of its Christianity.

Which is why it is doubly disappointing to see American Christianity increasingly facing intolerance.

As evidenced by the mocking of Tim Tebow.

The First Amendment – like all of the Constitution – is both a reflection of and an inspiration for the American character. The First Amendment says two things about religion – that the government shall not declare an official religion, and that the government may not interfere with the practice of religion.

American culture reflects that second guarantee in the accepting attitude of its citizens.

Or at least it used to.

Increasingly, we whittle the freedom of religion down to just the freedom of worship. Yes, you can go behind closed doors on Sunday morning and worship as you please, but if you bring your religion back out with you, into the public square, you will find hostility and criticism.

Especially if you are Christian.

And that must end.

Because a nation is better if its people are religious. Not just on their holy days and in their places of worship, but every day, and in every part of their lives.

Tim Tebow merely attempts to do that.

He is a Christian, and he has chosen to live a Christ-centered life.

And in the land of the free, he should be allowed to.

Without being laughed at.


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Were he similarly zealous in devotion to a minority religion, his piety would be solemnly respected. If a Muslim playing in the NFL knelt in prayer, or expressed gratitude to his God for his professional success, he would be lionized for his bravery. His religious views would be treated with reverential respect.
1 posted on 01/16/2012 11:30:23 AM PST by shortstop
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To: shortstop

Why does the Godless left attack him in the media? It’s their job.


2 posted on 01/16/2012 11:33:43 AM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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3 posted on 01/16/2012 11:35:35 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SkyDancer

It is ok... it just gets tiresome..


4 posted on 01/16/2012 11:36:58 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: shortstop
If a Muslim playing in the NFL knelt in prayer, or expressed gratitude to his God for his professional success, he would be lionized for his bravery. His religious views would be treated with reverential respect.

You gotta be joking.

5 posted on 01/16/2012 11:37:11 AM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: shortstop
Actually I think it's as simple as the fact that thugs, punks, ne'er-do-wells, and liberals read the same playbook...if you can't compete...MOCK.

Mock, Ridicule, lie, and cheat are the four main principles of liberalism/democrats.

And if all of that fails, well, play the race card.
6 posted on 01/16/2012 11:37:50 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: shortstop
WHY DO THEY MOCK TIM TEBOW?

Because they can.

And you can't stop them.

7 posted on 01/16/2012 11:38:39 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: shortstop

“In what is arguably the most religiously tolerant society...”

Toleration is only extended to anti-christian opinion, ideas and beliefs.

The sheep must tolerate the wolves eating them. To fail to do so would risk offending the wolves.


8 posted on 01/16/2012 11:39:00 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: shortstop
Excellent quote - you're right, the best of the article - except Moslems rarely actually achieve anything with gratitute to their faith. Rather they achieve, or build, DESPITE their given religion.


Show me a Moslem who thanks his lord and I'll show you someone who just destroyed something someone else built.
9 posted on 01/16/2012 11:39:32 AM PST by golux
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To: shortstop
WHY DO THEY MOCK TIM TEBOW?

Maybe he writes in all caps. That tends to irritate people.

10 posted on 01/16/2012 11:40:48 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: shortstop

No. It is NOT because he’s Christian. It’s because he’s conservative. If he were black, or making ads about how Jesus wants us to feed the poor and homeless, maybe a nod toward OWS as “what God really wants,” they’d be giving him tongue baths.


11 posted on 01/16/2012 11:41:46 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: goseminoles

It’s the media that keeps pushing it. Also liberal websites have their knickers in a twist and keep harping on it. You don’t see Conservatives pushing it in the same way. They just defend his right to do so.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 11:42:41 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: goseminoles

It’s the media that keeps pushing it. Also liberal websites have their knickers in a twist and keep harping on it. You don’t see Conservatives pushing it in the same way. They just defend his right to do so. How much do they push Muslim stuff? This is just one thing, Islam gets lots more coverage. Now >that’s< tiresome.


13 posted on 01/16/2012 11:43:48 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SkyDancer

The ones on the left are worshipping something that is no threat to the prince of this world.


14 posted on 01/16/2012 11:43:56 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: shortstop

Homeschooled, Christian, and pro life. Everything the left hates.


15 posted on 01/16/2012 11:46:58 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: shortstop

Depends on who you ask and how you ask whether Christianity is now a “majority faith” in the USA. I know, polls have shown that 9 out of 10 somehow connect themselves to Christianity. But how many even bother to darken the door of a church even at Easter or Christmas? How many could accurately quote a single verse of the bible, whether or not knowing its reference but at least being able to say which Testament it came from? “Christians with some kind of clue” probably comprise less than half.


16 posted on 01/16/2012 11:48:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: shortstop

It’s the militant, anti-Christian Left that’s intolerant and self-righteous.


17 posted on 01/16/2012 11:51:23 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: shortstop

Denver got beat like a drum...Get over it.


18 posted on 01/16/2012 11:56:55 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You’re right.

“Christian” has become kind of a societal or cultural label.

It’s easy to weed out the “I’m in a garage therefore I’m a car” “Christians” from the believers.

“Can you get to heaven being a good person?”


19 posted on 01/16/2012 11:57:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: humblegunner
We pick on immaterial stuff and doing it is snide!

The media continually casts anyone not progressive liberal in a myriad of derogatory ways. They choose to demean conservatives, and Christians,

BECAUSE THEY CAN AND IT DOES WORK TO CAUSE THE MINDS OF THE PUBLIC TO ABSORB THE LIES OF IT AND IT DOES HAVE A MAJOR EFFECT. TRUTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND WE ACCEPT IT.

Forgive the caps. I do not have my glasses on ... and I do not want to retype it.

20 posted on 01/16/2012 11:58:55 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Christians with some kind of clue” probably comprise less than half.

Most people who call themselves "Christian" are products of our public schools and they know little if anything of the actual principles and beliefs of Christianity. Most Americans are products of public schools and know little if anything about the actual principles of the Constitution or the beliefs of it's founding fathers.

An ignorant, not a stupid, electorate gave us Obama. A Country dependent on an ignorant electorate cannot be successful.

21 posted on 01/16/2012 11:59:08 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: shortstop

There’s the issue of “don’t pray on the street corners but go into your room” versus “don’t hide your light under a bushel.”

It all depends on motivation, doesn’t it? I have no grounds to think Tebow is a hypocrite, trying to win public acclaim by his praying - he does get some, but he gets even more condemnation. So he is trying to give the glory to God, and let people see what God is doing in his life.

OTOH, plenty of people will accuse him of being a hypocrite and not following the teachings of his faith...what does it mean to be “as wise as serpents?” Does it have anything to do with seeing yourself as others see you, understanding that you the messenger are to a degree the message?

OTOH, what is the importance of a football game in God’s mind? I would guess it’s really the conduct of the players that matters. Thanks be to God for letting us play games - but football is only a game.


22 posted on 01/16/2012 12:01:27 PM PST by heartwood
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To: MrB
“Can you get to heaven being a good person?”

I know you can't get in, no matter what your beliefs are, if your not.

23 posted on 01/16/2012 12:02:26 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: shortstop
I think the biggest issue was that folks publicly associated his improbable comeback wins with his religious devotion.

He should have dispelled that, publicly, as should have all Christians.

I'm pretty darn sure Heaven didn't give a wit about an NFL game or how Tebow performed in it.

24 posted on 01/16/2012 12:04:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: shortstop

John 16:1-2.

The Boss told you what you were signing up for, stop whining.


25 posted on 01/16/2012 12:05:03 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: shortstop
Some thoughts:

If he is mocked by so many people why was Tebow recently rated America's favorite athlete in recent poll?

Patriots are light-years better than the Broncos.

If Tebow wasn't given the reins after Denver's 1-4 start, they would have never sniffed the playoffs.

26 posted on 01/16/2012 12:06:23 PM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My wife and I have struggled what to call the true believers to distinguish them from the larger pool of those who call themselves Christians. How about Christ Followers?


27 posted on 01/16/2012 12:07:07 PM PST by ne1410s ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill)
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To: Prokopton

It’ll be a rather lonely place, then...

Mark 10:18
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.


28 posted on 01/16/2012 12:08:39 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SkyDancer

I agree its the media.. they make a mockery of him, which isn’t cool.. I like many other athletes(see my screen name). Ponder isn’t a shabby human either.. no dispute here..


29 posted on 01/16/2012 12:09:53 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: shortstop
Why do they mock Tebow?

Because they're bigoted, antiChrist idiots. Because Mr. Tebow isn't a perverted thuggish degenerate, and his basic decency embarrasses them.

And why do we let them?

Because shooting them is illegal.

30 posted on 01/16/2012 12:14:28 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: shortstop

Evil hates the light.


31 posted on 01/16/2012 12:16:19 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: ne1410s

One of my pastors makes the distinction by asking “are you a believer?”

That means a believer in the exclusivity of Christ and in the veracity of the Word of God.


32 posted on 01/16/2012 12:16:56 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ArrogantBustard

BTT!


33 posted on 01/16/2012 12:20:21 PM PST by momtothree
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To: shortstop
The evil hate goodness.

The corrupt hate purity.

The mendacious hate truth.

The godless hate godliness.

The decadent hate prayer.

The Left is overwhelmed with hatred.

34 posted on 01/16/2012 12:22:52 PM PST by Savage Beast (Only a powerful intellect and internal moral compass can resist the incessant barrage of propaganda.)
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To: SkyDancer

Ponder has a hotter g-friend. ;0)


35 posted on 01/16/2012 12:23:32 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: shortstop

Timothy 9 for 26


36 posted on 01/16/2012 12:27:25 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: shortstop

Really? I think a Muslim quarterback who shouted Allahu Akbar or kneeled to Mecca, and praised Allah as helping him and his team in his interviews, would be soundly boo’d off the field or at least very unpopular.


37 posted on 01/16/2012 12:29:48 PM PST by COgamer
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To: shortstop
...because Tim Tebow & his religion don't think a man's rectum is a sex organ.

And they are not afraid to say so.

38 posted on 01/16/2012 12:30:37 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: MrB; Prokopton

“God doesn’t love me because I am good.
God loves me because God is good.”


39 posted on 01/16/2012 12:39:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: TexasCajun

Don’t get the cart before the horse there...

The left promotes “gay rights” only as a vehicle through which to criminalize Christianity.

They don’t hate Christians because we say homosexual behavior is wrong. They like gays because they hate Christianity.


40 posted on 01/16/2012 12:44:08 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Jim Noble
John 16:1-2

That second verse, "They will expel you from the synagogues; in fact, the hour* is coming when everyone who kills you will think he is offering worship to God." Reminds me of that "muslim yell" allahu akbar!. Scary.

41 posted on 01/16/2012 12:45:08 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: heartwood

“OTOH, what is the importance of a football game in God’s mind? I would guess it’s really the conduct of the players that matters. Thanks be to God for letting us play games - but football is only a game.”

Amen! And conduct both on the field and off. I pray Tim’s conduct is stellar in both places. I hate to see a good man fall, but the world loves it.

I am not a football fan, so I don’t quite understand the problem with a man taking a knee for a quick silent prayer of thanks. It certainly, IMO, beats being cocky and dancing around the field.


42 posted on 01/16/2012 12:45:15 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: shortstop

Shame and guilt, projected. It’s a very old story.


43 posted on 01/16/2012 12:50:28 PM PST by sphinx
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To: heartwood

“OTOH, what is the importance of a football game in God’s mind? I would guess it’s really the conduct of the players that matters. Thanks be to God for letting us play games - but football is only a game.”

Amen! And conduct both on the field and off. I pray Tim’s conduct is stellar in both places. I hate to see a good man fall, but the world loves it.

I am not a football fan, so I don’t quite understand the problem with a man taking a knee for a quick silent prayer of thanks. It certainly, IMO, beats being cocky and dancing around the field.


44 posted on 01/16/2012 12:55:45 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: shortstop; Alamo-Girl; YHAOS; hosepipe; marron; MHGinTN; Mind-numbed Robot; Matchett-PI
If the snide player remarks about Tim Tebow had been made about a Muslim player, the commissioner and the league would have levied sanctions. If that same Muslim player had had his religion mocked on a late-night talk show, the nation would be aghast.

Truly excellent article, shortstop. Thank you so much for posting it!

A major takeaway for me: Thus reduction to doctrinaire rules ever obscures any consideration of the moral worth of various religions in terms of (1) the soundness of their self-declared universal precepts; and (2) their impact on civil societies. I mean, that question cannot even arise under such rules.

Which is probably why the doctrinaire out there (read: folks of atheist, materialist, darwinist mind) detest Tebow.

Tebow doesn't "reduce" to a doctrine. He is a man who actually lives his Faith.

And for the Progressive Left, I gather, that is the one and only "Unforgivable Sin."

And they react as vampires react to garlic and crucifixes when publicly confronted by a genuine Man of Faith....

But back to an earlier point, that all considerations of the relative worth of various different religions are proscribed from the Public Square. To even bring the subject up is to become the target of General Public Opprobrium.

Since I don't worry much about such matters, I have been trying to imagine "what kind of God?" can explain the total social dysfunction within the Islamic sphere of influence, and between the states and peoples thereof, in our times?

I started by wondering what kind of God could explain the way the more "activist branch" of Islam is behaving in the world today. One is attempting to do this, in light of the following observations:

(1) The fundamental self-identity of a Muslim man is as a "slave" to/of Allah. For it is Allah alone who can write "in the book of Life"; and whatever Allah writes, IS.

In short, Allah is the "moving finger, which [forever] moves on" of Omar Khayyam....

Giving no man not one LEAST of a clue as to "his purpose in writing."

Thus my trial conclusion: There is no divine–man channel of communication in Islam. There is only obedience to an absolute Master, who determines/controls absolutely every aspect of one's personal being, constantly, from eternity.

(2) Which probably helps explain what, from a Western viewpoint at least, looks like severe degeneracy/dysfunction in the relations of the sexes in virtually every country, or even community, as a constant theme within the Islamic sphere.

Good grief, Muslim men are evidently so helpless that they cannot resist the allure of a female, a temptress evidently employing some kind of magical powers. And since they cannot resist, they blame the female for what they cannot avoid, committing (by Western standards) rape in the process. Whereupon the rape is alleged. And then the poor female victim's family has to kill her, for the sake of family "honor." Indeed, in all likelihood, it would be the unfortunate female's own mother who turns her over to "family justice"....

(3) But just as long as Allah's "warriors" submit their necks to his divine yoke, and do what their mullahs tell them to do, then they can expect to have sexual intercourse with 72 virgins, instantly upon their arrival in heaven. Presumably not having to kill them after the fact, like down here on Earth. And then a forever more — of what???

(4) This last observation is particularly disagreeable: History tells us standard Islamic belief holds that anyplace the big-toe of a Muslim has ever made an imprint on the soil anyplace on Earth, that "territory" instantly becomes, and remains forever after, "Allah's."

So the Imperialists in Iran are not conducting warfare against their neighbors; they are merely recovering their own proper territories.

Must stop for now. Thank you ever so much, dear shortstop, for posting this wonderfully thought-provocative article by Bob Lonsberry!

45 posted on 01/16/2012 12:55:55 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: shortstop

Squeaky clean people tend to get mocked, because regular people just don’t understand them. It’s more so if they’re famous because they’re passing up on what regular folks consider the best part of fame (groupies). Being different gets you mocked, it’s one of the ways society enforces its norms.


46 posted on 01/16/2012 12:58:28 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: shortstop

47 posted on 01/16/2012 12:59:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Depends on who you ask and how you ask whether Christianity is now a “majority faith” in the USA. I know, polls have shown that 9 out of 10 somehow connect themselves to Christianity. But how many even bother to darken the door of a church even at Easter or Christmas?

Christians only by default. Well, I'm not Muslim and I'm not Jewish, so I must be Christian. IMO, only about 5% of the people in this country are truly Christian (as in having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and trust Him as their Savior AND Lord).
48 posted on 01/16/2012 1:02:26 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Prokopton
Jesus told one thief on the cross, today you will be with me in Paradise.

Luke 23:40-43,KJV:

40 But the other criminal protested, “Don’t you fear God even when you are dying? 41 We deserve to die for our evil deeds, but this man hasn’t done anything wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom.” 43 And Jesus replied, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

He was going there because he believed in and confessed Jesus not because he was in any way good. Jesus' goodness substitutes for all of our sinfulness, including that of the thief.

49 posted on 01/16/2012 1:11:08 PM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: UCANSEE2; MrB

Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 7:21


50 posted on 01/16/2012 1:11:15 PM PST by Prokopton
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